Food for thought from Jack and Betty-Anne.
Q. Are we absolutely certain that Philip and William are one and the same
Birth details for Philip Steer, Sevenoaks district (includes Westerham and
Crockham Hill) Jun qtr 1854
1871 Philip, aged 17, Westerham, Kent
1881 William, aged 26, Sevenoaks, Kent
1891 William, aged 37, Westerham, Kent
1901 Philip,aged 47, Crockham Hill, Kent
Children, occupation, age, place of birth tally all the time.
Q. When were the reservoirs on Saddleworth Moor built?
A. Not sure, but he only lived in Saddleworth in 1891 and 1901 census, from
children's birth places took work all over the North of England ( Shipley
Yorks, Distington Cumberland, Egremont Cumberland, Barrow Lancashire,
Staleybridge Chehire, Mossley Cheshire, then finally Saddleworth Yorks.
Q. Railway and canal navvies would go on the tramp looking for a
better job,when they felt it was necessary. The hut/shack in which they
withtheir "wife" and children was almost always on land owned or
controlled bythe contractor, who forbade women to live on their own in these
makeshift settlements. To stay in their dwelling these women living alone
usually took in another navvy as a lodger and in the course of time he often
became thenew "husband". Did the same thing apply to navvies working on
A. I don't know enough about all this to pass comment. My first reaction to
this suggestion was negative, but on thinking about it I suppose it's a
possibility, but what about the curate who baptised the last 3 children,
would he not have had some strong thoughts about baptising a chind who he
thought might be illegitimate?
Betty-Anne - All valid reasons for using 2 names.
Have decided to send off for marriage / birth certificates, to see if I can
find out any more