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Still having a lot of pleasure trawling through the Surrey PRs at ancestry.
Looking through St Mary's, Bletchingley records, I found the following entry -
P36 E129 17 Jun 1795
John Steer otp Widower and Mary Brooke X otp Widow
Married by License
Witnesses Mary Hall, John Radley
At first glance it could be difficult to place this John Steer. I think I have seen the bare details before and passed it by.
However, John Steer, son of John Steer and Elizabeth Frith, married Johanna Arnold 10 Nov 1762 in Godstone. They had several children in Godstone, but John died in Bletchingley in 1806.
There is a burial record for Joanna Steer, 24 Jan 1794 in Bletchingley, so opens the way for John to marry again. However, it is the witness Mary Hall that interests me. My 5G grandmother, John's sister, had a child born before marriage, Ann Steer. She then married Benjamin Hall who died in 1793. In 1801 she remarried, record as follows -
P46 E169 7 Oct 1801
Ware of Godstone Widower and Mary Hall otp Widow
Chn Field, Mary Hall, John Roffey Clark
The signature of Mary Hall as witness at John's wedding is almost identical to that of Mary Hall bride in 1801, and sister of John.
So I would fairly confident in placing this John Steer, however there are not only one, but two 'flies' in the ointment.
A 'Mary Steer, wife of John Steer', was buried 25 Mar 1788, Bletchingley, also this John Steer wrote his will 24 Feb 1795, it was proved 19 Apr 1806, and there is no mention of 'wife, Mary Steer'.
When he wrote the will in February I would think he knew he was getting married in the July. Even if they had only been married for a few years, she would have been able to contest the will if nothing was provided for her.
Just a quick message.
Ancestry have put London, England, Clandestine Marriage and Baptism Registers, 1667-1754 online. I went looking for the so far untraceable marriage of Edward Steer and Alicia Outram, c 1751, with no luck. Alicia would have been about 15 then, so a good possibility for a clandestine marriage, I would have thought.
There are, however, 53 entries for a 'Steer' exact surname search - even though some are duplicates, even tripilicates, this still accounts for several marriages which may prove helpful to someone.
It is always very good to be able to look at original records, or as near as possible to original records.
John Steer and Elizabeth Frith, my 6G grandparents, married 10 Feb 1727/28, Caterham, Surrey. Their first known child, Clemence/Clement, was baptised in Bletchingley 1729, next 2 children John and William were possibly baptised in Reigate, Surrey in 1732 and 1736. The family next moved to Tandridge, where Mary, my 5G grandmother (1739/40) and Elizabeth (1740/41) were born.
Lastly came Sarah, said to have been born 14 Mar 1741/42, baptised 18 Mar 1741/42. Mother Elizabeth died 16 Mar 1742/43, buried 18 Mar 1742/43. Sarah died 18 May 1743 and was buried 19 May 1743.
Whoever transcribed the records made a mistake with the double-dating. Sarah was born 14 Mar 1742/43, her mother died 2 days later. Their burial records follow each other in the register, rather than being over a year apart, Elizabeth's death possibly/probably child birth related. Sarah's baptism and Elizabeth's burial were on the same day - John must have found this very difficult.
(Sorry if this is a bit convoluted, can't think of any other way of describing it)
I think the original information provided by Jack Steer some years ago came from WSFHS. Has anybody heard anything from him recently? The list has not been the same since he stopped posting.