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I have been sent an extract in Latin from William Nelson's "Lex
maneriorum" of  by my cousin Mike from Australia. It refers to
the above case. I append my answer to Mike after my signature. But
if anyone can shed light on any of the names or dates or situation, I
would be delighted to pick up any morsels.
Mike wrote :-
Dear Coz: An interesting find:
And I wrote thus :- Dear Mike,
I have transcribed what you sent : for which many thanks by the way.
Where do you find such things ?!!! I have also found a couple of
other references to this matter in English, though the Latin does not
look too difficult to translate, as it is in set legal forms that I'm
roughly used to from wills.
It looks to me to be a dispute during the long reign of Charles II,
which people tend to forget started in 1649 immediately after the
execution of his father. So I think we are talking about Philip
Steer III of Slapton [1614-1648] as the grandfather in the case, but
this presumes that he had a son Edmund, who then left everything to
his brother Philip, and then it all descended to the Edmund Sture in
the case, though whose child he is is not yet clear. This all comes
in the period for which I have a lot of loose ends.
The case refers to a trespass and an abduction of a gelding, regarded
as a heriot, i.e. the payment of the best beast on the death of the
tenant. This took place at Le Stable, Newton Ferrars, though other
places referred to are in Ugborough parish. The plaintiff in the
case, Hugo Osborne, clearly married one of the tenants, Dorothy
Edgcomb, who with her friend/relation/sister, Margery Upton, had the
original lease from the Stures. The judges were divided about fifty-
fifty in their opinion and so eventually the case was sent to the
Exchequer-Chamber, an early form of Court of Appeal, were it was heard
in Trinity Term in the fourth year of James II, which must have been
almost at the final gasp of his reign !
The attorney, Charles Tayler, who is mentioned as speaking for Edmund
Sture to the court, is interesting too, because it was a Charles
Taylor, attorney, of Diptford who bought Marridge House and farm and
all the remaining Sture lands from an Edmund Sture in 1699. Perhaps
poor Edmund [literally] couldn't pay his lawyer. Taylor has a large
monument in Diptford Church.
Possibly more to follow in this maze.
Thank you for the reply, that puts both of them back in play again as
possibly being my Great Great Grandfather. I doubt we have any close
connection as your family cover the same time span as mine, just lived in
the same place, and originates at some time past from West Surrey, however
who knows what information may come to light one day.
> Can anyone claim either of the two William STEER deaths please.
> 4Q 1885 Brighton 2b 161 William STEER age 62
> 3Q 1888 Brighton 2b 138 William STEER age 70
> I am hoping one of them is my GG Grandfather (c.1820 somewhere) but at
> ?9.25 a certificate I'm not too keen to take a chance on a fishing
> While the first looks to be the William who was a boarding house keeper
> in Brighton in 1881, it cannot be as he is still alive in 1891.
> Another likely for the first entry is William Steere married to Maria,
> but I cannot find Maria in the 1891.
> The 1881 Census doesn't give any more clues.
> Any assistance appreciated.
> Stephen Steere
> Orpington, Kent. UK.
> Hello Stephen,
> My GGGrandfather was William Steer, b about 1823 in Brighton. He
> Maria Starley in St Nics Ch, Brighton, on 14 Sep 1848, Cert No 7 406.
> However he didn't die until Dec Qtr 1900 (B'ton 2b 129). Maria died
> 1896(Steyning 2b 179).
> They had 9 children.
> Probably not the right one, but let me know if I can help any further.
> Best Wishes,
> Bill Coppard
My GGGrandfather was William Steer, b about 1823 in Brighton. He married
Maria Starley in St Nics Ch, Brighton, on 14 Sep 1848, Cert No 7 406.
However he didn't die until Dec Qtr 1900 (B'ton 2b 129). Maria died Jun
1896(Steyning 2b 179).
They had 9 children.
Probably not the right one, but let me know if I can help any further.
Can anyone claim either of the two William STEER deaths please.
4Q 1885 Brighton 2b 161 William STEER age 62
3Q 1888 Brighton 2b 138 William STEER age 70
I am hoping one of them is my GG Grandfather (c.1820 somewhere) but at £9.25
a certificate I'm not too keen to take a chance on a fishing expedition.
While the first looks to be the William who was a boarding house keeper in
Brighton in 1881, it cannot be as he is still alive in 1891.
Another likely for the first entry is William Steere married to Maria, but I
cannot find Maria in the 1891.
The 1881 Census doesn't give any more clues.
Any assistance appreciated.
Orpington, Kent. UK.