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Came across these the other day at Society of Australian Genealogists.
"Ships Deserters" 1852-1900 Ref A8 / 35 / A1
Government Gazette and NSW Police Gazette
page 162 Notice dated 25 2 1858
Henry STEER ship " LLoyds" AB (able bodied seaman)
Believe the ship is a 403 ton bark built 1833
page 440 Notice dated 6 12 1899
from HMS Royal Arthur, Sydney on 14th November 1899 :-
Wm STEER, ord seaman, about 19 years of age, 5ft 51/2 ins high, light hair, blue eyes, fresh complexion, with George FLEMING age 22
I wonder who will claim them??
been sunny days but raining as I write in Sydney
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Surnames: Sture, Tucker, Dennis, Fulford, Mees, Cooke, Fleetwood, Palmer, Borrough, Vowel, Erisey
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I was at a course at the Toronto Reference Library recently, in the Special Collections section, and found this book listed below which had a reference to STURE in 1630.
I copied this information for anyone who can make use of it.
A View of Devonshire in MDCXXX (1630) with a Pedigree of Most of Its Gentry
By Thomas Westcote, Gent
Edited by the Rev. George Oliver DD and Pitman Jones, Esq.
Published Exeter: Wm. Roberts 197 High Street, 1845.
SOURCE: Toronto Reference Library, Special Collections
Call number: 914.23504 W 258 SPCOLL ANNEX
A forward by John Prince, Berry Pomeroy, 1696 re 'The Pedigrees of Most of Our Devonshire Families by Thomas Westcote, GENT.'
"that this volume of pedigrees was written by Mr. Thomas Westcote may be inferred not only from the hand, but from his passage in his 'Views on Devon' - In answer to the objection why he had not set down every Gentleman's coat of arms, achievements, and descent, he saith - 'be it so that I could have performed what they demanded and have satisfied their expectation; yet a burnt child dreads fire: and I am not so improvident altogether, though I was sometime, as you know, in such a business somewhat too bold, rashly to intrude myself into their sacred profession, to whom it only belongs'."
STURE, of Marridge, in Ugborough. - ARMS. - Or, a mullet sable
Philip married and had issue John, Richard. John married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Dennis, of Holcombe, knight, and had issue Henry, William, Robert, (the last two sans issue), Tristram, and three daughters; one married to Captain James Fulford, and another to Mees. Henry married a daughter of Sir William Cooke of Gloucestershire, and had issue a daughter married to a son of Sir Giles Fleetwood.
Tristram, heir to his brother Henry, married a daughter of Sir Richard Hawkins, of Plymouth, knight, and had issue.
Richard, the second son of Philip, married a daughter of Giles and had issue two daughters; one married to a Newton.
Note: there were no 'STEER'
As I have Tuckers married into Stures,
[i.e. Birth record per Jack Steer - East Allington Parish records
5.6.;1786;Sarah;STURE; East Allington; Andrew STURE; Sarah his wife
Per Philip Steer: Married 26 August 1812 as Sarah STEER by license to Richard Tucker. Witnesses: Charlotte Sumpter and Mary Tucker.
Tombstone Recordings St. Sylvestor Church, Chivelstone, taken June 11, 2004
STTMO Richard TUCKER of East Prawle in this parish who departed this life the 17th day of August in the year of the Lord 1857 aged 77 years. Also Sarah, wife of the above who departed this life the 14th day of March 1859 aged 73 years.]
I also copied this write-up on Tucker:
TUCKER (alias TOOKER) of the City of Exeter (gent)
ARMS - Azure barry wavy argent, on a chevron embattled counter-battled or between three sea-horses, naiant, argent maned and finned gules, five goutes sable.
Robert Tucker, alderman of Exeter and mayor 1543, married Joan, daughter of John Palmer of Thorverton and had issue William, Hugh, Grace, (married to John Borrough of Collompton, and by him had issue, Henry), Martha (married to John Vowel, alias Hooker) Chamberlain of city of Exeter, and had issue Robert.)
William Tucker married Honor, daughter of James Erisey, of Erisey in Cornwall, esq. and had issue Robert, John Baptist, William, John, Thomas, Florence.
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Jack, Thanks for your thoughts.
I did think that Mary could have been Alice Jane, for any number of reasons, including the one you gave.
What is more puzzling is the place of birth of George and Mary Steer, given as Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
George was born in Distington, Alice Jane apparently born in Crook, Westmoreland (possibly registered 1880, Kendal).
1901 census does not actually say that George and Mary were married to each other, but the assumption is there - unfortunately, as lodgers, no relationship is given.
My new found relative, also named Jack Steer, was at a sticking point until 1911 census came out - he could not find any evidence of a George Steer born in Cardiff.
Now he has found many Steer and Laversuch ancestors, hope 1911 helped other people out with brick walls.
Lovely to hear from you again, Jack. Did you read my post about 1911 census/1925 marriage certificate and Philip William Steer - another query solved, he was assistant waterman in 1911, by 1925, when my father visited him as a young boy, he was given as waterworks manager.
> From: jacks(a)bukanin.fsnet.co.uk
> To: steer(a)rootsweb.com
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 23:59:09 +0100
> Subject: Re: [STEER] George STEER, born 1878, Distington, Cumberland
> Not really up to thinking, but perhaps Mary was Alice Jane and Thomas was
> born shortly after marriage
> Don't forget that girls in service in the 1890s and later were often given
> new names by their employers. I shan't comment on the morality of that, but
> that practice was then continued by some of those servants
> My paternal grandmother was one of them. She was not a particularly nice
> woman and liked to control those around her. She had one child. She also
> insisted on renaming her future daughter in law Joan. Not something that
> found favour with my mother
> Jack Steer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Margaret Wilkinson"
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:34 PM
> Subject: [STEER] George STEER, born 1878, Distington, Cumberland
> My granduncle, George STEER, was born 1878 in Distington,
> Cumbria, son of Philip STEER and Mary Jane LAVERSUCH.
> In 1881 census he is shown with both his parents in
> Egremont, and his grandparents in Distington, aged 3.
> In 1891 he is with parents at Sandy Way Head, Dobcross, aged
> No sign of him in 1901 census.
> In 1911 census he is shown as follows (transcription) -:
> George Steet, Head, Mar 10 yrs, M, 33, Fireman Staionery
> Boilers, Cumberland, Disington
> Alice J Steet, Wife, Mar, 29, Westmoreland, Crook
> Thomas H Steet, Son, M, 9, School, Liverpool, Lancs
> Louisa Steet, Daur, F, 7, Liverpool, Lancs
> Albert Steet, Son, M, 4, Liverpool, Lancs
> Stanley Steet, Son, M, 1, Liverpool, Lancs
> James Relly, Lodger, Mar, M, 29, Liverpool, Lancs
> Julia Relly, Boarder, Mar 1 yr, F, 29, Liverpool, Lancs
> Patrick Relly, Boarder, M, 1 mth, Bootle, Lancs
> Address 12, Cowper Street, Bootle, West Derby, Lancashire
> RG14PN22434 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED28 SN188
> Looking for George Steer/Alice J marriage comes up with -:
> Toxteth Park
> HODGSON Alice Jane
> STEER George
> Jun qtr 1901 Vol 8b p437
> The actual marriage certificate, sent to me recently
> by a descendant of George Steer, gives the following details -:
> Marriage solemnized at register Office, Toxteth Park,
> 27 Apr 1901
> George Steer, 23 yrs, Bachelor, General Labourer, 66,
> Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park
> Father William Steer, General Labourer
> Alice Jane Hodgson, 20 yrs, Spinster, 66, Stanhope
> Street, Toxteth Park
> Father Henry Richards Hodgson (deceased), Carter
> Married in Register Office by certificate before R A
> James, Registrar, A H Yates, Deputy Supt. Registrar
> Both signed, Witnesses D Howard, Annie Yates
> In 1901 census there is a George Steer at 66, Stanhope
> Street -:
> George Steer, Lodger, Mar, M, 23, Dock Labourer, Worker,
> Cardiff, Glamorganshire
> Mary Steer, Lodger, Mar, F, 20, Cardiff,
> Address 66, Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
> RG 13/3427 Folio 127 P13
> Presumably this was my great uncle – but who was Mary?
> Why Cardiff? And less than 4 weeks later, George married Alice.
> So, I am glad to have found what happened to George, plus
> a rather distant living relative, but I cannot explain 1901 census – any
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My granduncle, George STEER, was born 1878 in Distington,
Cumbria, son of Philip STEER and Mary Jane LAVERSUCH.
In 1881 census he is shown with both his parents in
Egremont, and his grandparents in Distington, aged 3.
In 1891 he is with parents at Sandy Way Head, Dobcross, aged
No sign of him in 1901 census.
In 1911 census he is shown as follows (transcription) -:
George Steet, Head, Mar 10 yrs, M, 33, Fireman Staionery
Boilers, Cumberland, Disington
Alice J Steet, Wife, Mar, 29, Westmoreland, Crook
Thomas H Steet, Son, M, 9, School, Liverpool, Lancs
Louisa Steet, Daur, F, 7, Liverpool, Lancs
Albert Steet, Son, M, 4, Liverpool, Lancs
Stanley Steet, Son, M, 1, Liverpool, Lancs
James Relly, Lodger, Mar, M, 29, Liverpool, Lancs
Julia Relly, Boarder, Mar 1 yr, F, 29, Liverpool, Lancs
Patrick Relly, Boarder, M, 1 mth, Bootle, Lancs
Address 12, Cowper Street, Bootle, West Derby, Lancashire
RG14PN22434 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED28 SN188
Looking for George Steer/Alice J marriage comes up with -:
Jun qtr 1901 Vol 8b p437
The actual marriage certificate, sent to me recently
by a descendant of George Steer, gives the following details -:
Marriage solemnized at register Office, Toxteth Park,
27 Apr 1901
George Steer, 23 yrs, Bachelor, General Labourer, 66,
Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park
Father William Steer, General Labourer
Alice Jane Hodgson, 20 yrs, Spinster, 66, Stanhope
Street, Toxteth Park
Father Henry Richards Hodgson (deceased), Carter
Married in Register Office by certificate before R A
James, Registrar, A H Yates, Deputy Supt. Registrar
Both signed, Witnesses D Howard, Annie Yates
In 1901 census there is a George Steer at 66, Stanhope
George Steer, Lodger, Mar, M, 23, Dock Labourer, Worker,
Mary Steer, Lodger, Mar, F, 20, Cardiff,
Address 66, Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool
RG 13/3427 Folio 127 P13
Presumably this was my great uncle – but who was Mary?
Why Cardiff? And less than 4 weeks later, George married Alice.
So, I am glad to have found what happened to George, plus
a rather distant living relative, but I cannot explain 1901 census – any offers?
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