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I have one Trant link in my family. Philip Steer and his wife Mary
Cutmore of High House, Dodbrook had a daughter Caroline. Details below
 CAROLINE STEER
baptised 9th August 1826 at Dodbrook : employed on farm in 1851 : married
12th June 1855 to JAMES TRANT, yeoman of Stoke Fleming : in the census of
1881Caroline is living at Borough Farm, aged 56 years. There are two known
children : THOMAS C. TRANT of Borough: born 1864 at Stoke Fleming [census
1881 at Borough Farm, aged 18 years] and ELLEN TRANT : born 1867 at Stoke
Fleming [census 1881 at Borough Farm, aged 15 years]
Where these fit in with other Trants I don't know. However Caoline Steer
was aunt to Philip Wilson Steer OM, the painter, and in his biography a
cousin, Louis Trant, is mentioned. I would be interested if anyone has
more information that connect with these.
I have received 2 certificates today, the most information coming from marriage certificate of Philip Steer's youngest daughter, Lily Steer, in 1925.
This is about the time when my father went to see him, aged 6.
1925 Marriage at Parish Church of Waterhead in County of Oldham
20 Jun 1925
John Hilton, 26, Bachelor, Assistant Manager, Resident at 233, Litherland Road, Bootle
Father William Hilton (deceased), Dresser
Lily Steer, 25, Spinster, Bea[ ]er, Resident at Waterworks House
Father Philip William Steer, Waterworks Manager
Married in Parish Church of England after Banns, by J Goulding French, Vicar
Witnesses Philip Steer, Phyllis Newton, Frank Asquith
This is interesting on 3 fronts, because it gives the address as Waterworks House, which I went to see a few weeks ago; it gives Philip's occupation as waterworks manager, as remembered by my father, though nothing until this date has given any inkling of this; 3rdly it gives her father's name as Philip William Steer. This has been an outstanding query for some time, why he used the name of Philip and William interchangeably. This is the first record where both names have been used together.
The other certificate was less informative, though it did show that Philip and Mary Jane Steer possibly moved to Oldham itself.
1928 Death in sub-district of Oldham South, County of Oldham
No 455 (454 crossed through)
(5th crossed through) 6 Apr 1928, at 106, Villa Road, Oldham
Mary Jane Steer, female, age 70 yrs
Wife of Philip Steer, a Waterman Oldham Corporation
Cause of death Cerebral haemorrhage, chronic interstitial nephritis, no pm
Certified by Thomas Taylor, MB
Informant P Steer, widower of deceased, present at the death, residence 106, Villa Road, Oldham
Registered 7 Apr 1928, David Stansfield, Registrar
Having found out a bit more about where Philip lived and worked, I think it likely that he moved from Top House to Waterworks House as manager of Strinesdale Reservoirs, though not manager of Oldham Waterworks as such.
This would fit in with both my father's memories and the hards facts that ''From 1899 to at least 1911, the Manager was Arthur Andrew. Documentation from Oldham Waterworks in the 1920s has no mention of a Mr Steer in a managerial capacity. Mr Ernest Parry was the senior official of the Waterworks during the 1920s and 30s'' (from Oldham Local Studies and Arcives in 2004)
> From: margaretjanew(a)hotmail.com
> To: steer(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re Philip STEER, 1911 census
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:57:22 +0000
> I have found my great grandfather Philip STEER and grandfather James
> Albert STEER as follows in 1911 census
> Philip Steer, Head, 57, M, Mar 35 yrs, Assistant Waterman, (Corporation Waterworks], Worker, Kent, Westerham
> Mary Jane Steer, Wife, 52, F, Mar 35 yrs, 9 children born, 8 living, 1 died, Cheshire, Birkenhead
> Agnes Steer, Daur, 20, F, Sing, Velvet Weaver, (Cotton Spg), Worker, Yorks, Dobcross
> James Albert Steer, Son, 15, M, Sing, Earent (sic) boy disengaged (crossed through), Worker, Yorks, Dobcross
> Lilly Steer, Daur, 10, F, School, Yorks, Dobcross
> 4 rooms in dwelling
> Signed Philip Steer, Address Top House, Strinesdale Reservoirs, Waterhead, Oldham
> RG14PN24453 RG78PN1403 RD469 SD1 ED15 SN430
> I went up to Strinesdale Reservoirs last weekend, and had an
> enjoyable day. The reservoirs are no longer used as such, they have
> been partially drained and the area made into a reserve, it looks fairly natural.
> Top House
> was demolished some years ago. It was built in 1826, when the Upper Reservoir was built. There is a house overlooking Lower Reservoir, called Waterworks House. I think I have found both houses on Old
> Present day occupier of Waterworks House has told me that the assistant waterman lived at Top House, the waterman in charge lived at Waterworks House.
> My father remembers Philip as manager of Oldham Waterworks, but I have not found any evidence of him as a manager to date - perhaps he rose above assistant waterman to the waterman in charge.
> am going to send for Mary Jane STEER's death certificate - she died in
> 1928. This should
> hopefully give Philip's address and occupation. On his death
> certificate it described him as 'Formerly a Public Waters Waterman'.
> 2 of the daughters married in Holy Trinity Church, Waterhead, Alice in 1916, Lily in 1925 - I may send for one of their marriage certificates as well, to find out more about his occupation in later years.
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