Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ceylon Police 1850 -COLEPEPER (Paul and Valerie) 2. Re: SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 (Sasha Wilson) 3. Re: SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 (Julian Lovegrove) 4. RODRICO (Ron & Eileen Chapman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:43:10 -0000 From: "Paul and Valerie" <pandvarich(a)tiscali.co.uk&gt; Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Ceylon Police 1850 -COLEPEPER To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Message-ID: <72B123CF032541FBB1202CBD68665998@david> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Coreen and Larry, Apologies for my tardy response, but I have been in bed for 4 DAYS with flu and unable to type or think. Many thanks for your great email!! You wouldn't believe how much trouble I have had trying to find much on JSC's life in Ceylon. John Spencer COLEPEPER was married to Harriet THOMPSON a widow in 1835 in Wapping (Pallot's Marriage Index). Harriet was born in St. Domingo (now Haiti) in 1794 and also baptised in Devon, England in 1796 - Her father Samuel SOUTH was an army officer and most of his children were born abroad. I think maybe at the time Harriet was in Ceylon, her brother Charles was also an army officer in India. Harriet's first husband was a Naval Officer Frederick THOMPSON d.1833. When they married Harriet was 41 & JSC was 30 a Police Officer in London. I was very excited to know that they had a child and I wonder if I can look through the BMD her to see (Colepeper unusual here so easy to spot). I never knew exactly when they went to Ceylon. I have an old document which says that JSC was a 'Police Magistrate in Colombo and married his brother's mother-in-law!! Get's complicated so won't go on. I'm not sure that Harriet would had any more children, due to her age. I do have John's will and the 1861 census (no children of their's mentioned in either census or his will). He is as you say of 4 Darnley Road, Hackney. He died of chronic dysentry (3 years) hence the voyabe home in 1859. Harriet had 5 children in her first marriage. You mention that there are references in Google books to JSC. If I cannot find these references I may ask you where you found them if you don't mind. Do I need to be a subscriber to look into the Asiatic Journal? I would like to see the entry about the passage on the Persia. Again many thanks Valerie, from sunny Tenterden, Kent ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coreen & Larry Andresen" <larryadsl(a)qld.chariot.net.au&gt; To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Ceylon Police 1850 -COLEPEPER > > Valerie, > JS Colepepper came out to Ceylon in 1843 leaving on the "Persia"on the > 7th Sept 1843.(Source... Asiatic Journal May- Oct 1843) > He travelled with his wife and one child. > There are numerous references to him in literature and lots of entries > can be found and read online through Google books > Google books was where we found the death of our Captain James Thomas > Anderson last year. > There are other options for her death which could have been at sea, in > India, or in England if they had gone home on furlough. > As to death records in Kandy , there are only LDS films from 1867 to > 1931 that we have found.. > Colombo records run from the 1860s through to 1966, but are very > numerous and confusing and mostly villagers. > Now to confuse you even more there are 57 microfiche of deaths in > Colombo, in The Hague and Friesland Archives in Holland. > These cover the British period 1803 to 1864 and have not been found by > us on LDS films. As far as we know they have not been transcribed yet. > Another source for you may be the National Archives at Kew which has a > run of the Ceylon Govt Gazette from the 1830s on. We looked at these > last year and they are a wealth of information, but a lot are uncut and > difficult to read, and impossible to copy. > You could also search The Times and other newspapers on line for her > death as her husband was a high official in Ceylon. > You may find her death in a local newspaper if they grew up, married and > he lived and died in the same district. > His death is noted in The Gentlemans magazine of 1861and gives his > address as Darnley Road Hackney, and his age as 56. > Also, did they have children in Ceylon? She may have died after child > birth and this would give you a time frame to search. > How many children in the 1861 Census? > Keep on searching and hoping. Larry&Coreen Andresen. in a warm tropical > North Queensland, in Australia. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SRILANKA-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:18:31 -0000 From: "Sasha Wilson" <sasha.wilson(a)onetel.net&gt; Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Message-ID: <90FA0A38E36C4D1B8B34B54F8F4DC017@homelaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Julian I have just seen your mention of the 'History of Ceylon Tea' site and wonder if there is something similar for Burma. I understand that an ancestor of mine was a broker in Burma in the early 1900s and I am presuming he was a tea broker. Sasha Wilson Essex, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: <srilanka-request(a)rootsweb.com&gt; To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Still searching for William Donald Thomas > (Dr Beth Leembruggen-Kallberg) > 2. Re: Still searching for William Donald Thomas (Julian Lovegrove) > 3. Re: Still searching for William Donald Thomas > (Coreen & Larry Andresen) > 4. Re: Still searching for William Donald Thomas (Cherise Pereira) > 5. Fw: Minnie Daisy Willows Pettifer (nee Keelan) (Patricia Johnson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:03:46 +0100 > From: "Dr Beth Leembruggen-Kallberg" <ealk(a)wxs.nl&gt; > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Still searching for William Donald Thomas > To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; > Message-ID: <001701c997f9$8572e480$1100000a@tagnolocationempid> > Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type="original" > > Not sure, but I remember my 83 year old mum > talking about the de silva's & penndennis sounds > familiar in ceylon lore & legend, so i'll ask her next > we chat. Her memories are fairly good still. Not > promising anything, but maybe a memory or two > will surface. > Beth in the Netherlands > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian & Beverley Dunn" <home(a)bevandian.com&gt; > To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:49 PM > Subject: [SRILANKA] Still searching for William Donald Thomas > > >> Hi >> >> I am searching for my great grand father William Donald Thomas born >> Colombo >> around 1868-1870. William came to live in London UK between 1891 ( no >> sign >> of him on the 1891 census anyway) and 1893 when he married my great >> grandmother in London. William was a printer/compositor who according to >> family had worked at the Ceylon Morning Leader and was in England to >> learn >> more about the newspaper industry. We believe his family were quite >> wealthy >> as he received regular sums of cash from his parents from Sri Lanka. We >> also >> believe the family name was actually De Silva, not Thomas ( not sure of >> the >> spelling) and that they lived in a house called Pendennis. On his >> marriage >> certificate to my great grandmother he records his father as Joseph >> Thomas >> a >> shop keeper, however on his second marriage he records his father as >> William >> Thomas (deceased) general merchant. >> >> Can anyone let me know how I might find him? I have tried the British >> Library but they have no records, I have checked incoming passenger >> lists >> and found nothing, I have written to newspaper offices in Sri Lanka with >> no >> joy. Am I on a wild goose chase? >> >> Beverley Dunn >> St Albans >> UK >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SRILANKA-request(a)rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 2286 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:16:51 +0000 > From: Julian Lovegrove <julianlovegrove(a)hotmail.com&gt; > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Still searching for William Donald Thomas > To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; > Message-ID: <BAY126-W26D7D89D56347A20BE27F1A3AD0(a)phx.gbl&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > > Hello Beverley, > You seem to be in a similar position to me, about 3 years ago. > > 1) go to the rootsweb web site, click on web sites at the top, go down to > other places, click on Sri Lanka. This is an excellent site with > thousands > of pages of information to read through and links. > 2) Use the links to the mailing lists, rootsweb Sri Lanka and there's > another one Gen Web I think its called. You can search these lists with > your surnames, also follow the link to the Dutch Burgher Union pages, > where they have many family genealogies, to check out, you'll have to go > through them all, to find any with your surnames. > 3)Also the History of Ceylon Tea site has copies of Fergusons directories > to check through. > > By now you've realised this might take several years of searching, theres > no easy answer, but it can be wonderful when you find something. > > Good luck! > > Julian > > Julian Lovegrove > 21 Seafield Road > Broadstairs > Kent CT10 2DD > England > Business Website: www.antiqueswestmalling.co.uk > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Twice the fun?Share photos while you chat with Windows Live Messenger. > Learn more. > http://www.microsoft.com/uk/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:01:59 +1000 > From: Coreen & Larry Andresen <larryadsl(a)qld.chariot.net.au&gt; > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Still searching for William Donald Thomas > To: srilanka(a)rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <49A692C7.6030003(a)qld.chariot.net.au&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Ian and Beverly, > a couple of things to think about, the Morning leader was not in > circulation until 1st July 1907 and ceased publication in 1932. The > owners were the de Soysa family. > The Ceylon Standard started in 1908 and was owned by the Pieris > brothers Charles and Sir James, and Mr W A de Silva, the famous > Sinhalese novelist. > It went into liquidation within a year or two after the untimely death > of its editor, and the proprietary rights were bought by the de Soysa > family. > The 1928 Green book lists two Thomas names with Ceylon Apothecaries. > Optical Dept Manager H R Thomas. Printing Dept Manager R J Thomas. > The Thomas name was in Ceylon from at least the 1700s as we have > marriage records sighted and recorded from LDS films we have looked at. > Of course it is also a common English / Welsh name and came in with > soldiers, sailors, railways and planters too. > We know this doesn't solve your dilemma, but it may open new avenues and > close some family history myths and mysteries. > The Colombo birth / baptism may be of help to you if you have access to > an LDS library as there are films for this period available. We have > seen entries with adoption etc written on them so there is a chance to > find an entry that is a little out of the ordinary. Keep On > Searching And Hoping. > Larry&Coreen in Sunny Queensland....Researchers of British Ceylon > Family History, 1798 to 1948. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: >> 02/24/09 >> 13:35:00 >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:05:39 +0530 > From: Cherise Pereira <cherisev(a)sltnet.lk&gt; > Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] Still searching for William Donald Thomas > To: srilanka(a)rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <C187330EE6404A8C9915D97C19EBA48C@pce1793da25bc7> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:51:56 -0800 > From: "Patricia Johnson" <patrace(a)telus.net&gt; > Subject: [SRILANKA] Fw: Minnie Daisy Willows Pettifer (nee Keelan) > To: <SRILANKA(a)rootsweb.com&gt; > Message-ID: <01cf01c9987d$f91f93e0$9401a8c0(a)gateway.2wire.net&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Greetings Listers, > > I am hoping some of you can come through for us as we are running into a > brick wall. > > We are trying to find the obituary and grave site for my Great Aunt, > Minnie Daisy Charlotte Willows Keelan, born 1865 in Mussoorie, India. > Daughter of Henry Nathaniel Kennedy/Keelan, Assist. to Everest for the GT > Survey of India and Catherine Marianne Kavanagh, sister to Thomas Henry > Kavanagh, VC, Heroe of the Indian Mutiny, 1857. She married Dr. Edmund > Pettifer in London in 1886. He predeceased her and is buried in > Calcutta, > India. We are unsure of her year of death, (sometime after 1910) but we > do know she is buried in Columbo, Ceylon as confirmed by her niece and > ward, Madeline Agnes Kavanagh Baber, my maternal grandmother. > > Her Brother-In-Law's father, Henry Fearon Baber owned Tea Plantations in > Ceylon and the family often spent the warm weather season there, which > might be why she was in Colombo, Ceylon when she died. > > Could any of you please assist us in obtaining this information? We > would > be most grateful. > > Thank you. > > Patricia Johnson > British Columbia > Canada > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SRILANKA list administrator, send an email to > SRILANKA-admin(a)rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SRILANKA mailing list, send an email to > SRILANKA(a)rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SRILANKA-request(a)rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 > ************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1972 - Release Date: > 25/02/2009 19:08 > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:52:06 +0000 From: Julian Lovegrove <julianlovegrove(a)hotmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [SRILANKA] SRILANKA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 7 To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Message-ID: <BAY126-W343D9D1A850C2489D50EF2A3AB0(a)phx.gbl&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Sasha, I regret that I don't know anything about any helpful websites about Burma. I have a possible ancestor born in Rangoon Burma in 1895, and would like to find out what his father was doing there, but short of visiting the India Office records at the British Library in London, I'm not sure how else to proceed. All the best of luck with your searches. Julian Lovegrove 21 Seafield Road Broadstairs Kent CT10 2DD England Business Website: www.antiqueswestmalling.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Love Hotmail?? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:31:15 +1300 From: "Ron & Eileen Chapman" <roneil(a)xtra.co.nz&gt; Subject: [SRILANKA] RODRICO To: <srilanka(a)rootsweb.com&gt; Message-ID: <A05C3DE9857E49DC87830D8BC322A2C6@NEW> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Good afternoon from New Zealand, I have just found out that I had a relative born Ceylon in the year approx 1870 the name is Matthew Rodrico. The 1901 census he is living in London is there anyway that I can find out information regarding either a birth or baptism would like to know his parents if possible Thank you very much Eileen ------------------------------ To contact the SRILANKA list administrator, send an email to SRILANKA-admin(a)rootsweb.com. 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