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Can any Lister point me to records of or any information regarding German
vessels (and passenger lists) that would have docked in Cape Town during the
period 1840 - 1860?
Greg. L. Axsel
To Grant, Melinda and others,
The South African List Archives can be accessed by going to the
following web site address:
Once you reach the page type South-Africa not forgetting the
hyphen (-) in South-Africa and hit the submit button.
I hope that this helps.
Here of some names of some of the passengers that docked at East London
Passenger List of the Lady Kennaway
Females Passengers, Place of Origin and Age
A total of 153 unmarried women were passengers on board the Lady
Kennaway, immigrants to British Kaffraria in 1857.
They were all classified as "Servants". The official list was as
Anderson, Sarah (Armagh, 20)
Armstrong, Eliza (Dublin, 30)
Barrett, Maura (Dublin, 19)
Barry, Bridget (Meath, 20)
Blakeney, Deborah (Dublin, 18)
Blakeney, Mary Ann (Dublin, 21)
Blykes, Mary (Armagh, 23)
Borbidge, Ann (Dublin, 18)
Boulger, Jane (Dublin, 28)
Bradley, Susan (Donegal, 24)
Bradner, Margaret (Dublin, 28)
Branagan, Eliza (Dublin, 22)
Breen, Margaret (Dublin, 18)
Bright, Margaret (Kildare, 24)
Brophy, Cathe (Tipperary, 20)
Bullin, Ellen (Cork, 18)
Burke, Bridget (Dublin, 25)
Byrne, Ann (Dublin, 23)
Byrne, Catherine (Kilkenny, 20)
Byrne, Johanna (Dublin, 19)
Campbell, Mary (Armagh, 19)
Caughlin, Margaret (Armagh, 19)
Chapman, Harriett (Cork, 20)
Clark, Jane (Dublin, 25)
Clarke, Anne (Donegal, 26)
Clarken, Ellen (Fermanagh, 18)
Collins, Mary (Dublin, 20)
Collis, Kate (Dublin, 32)
Connor, Cathe (Clonmel, 18)
Corcoran, Jane (Dublin, 18)
Corrin, Susan (Dublin, 21)
Cox, Catherine (Fermanagh, 21)
Caffrey, Eliza (Kildare, 19)
Cullen, Jane (Dublin, 23)
Cummins, Bridget (Kildare, 19)
Curry, Margaret (Dublin, 18)
Dalton, Mary (Dublin, 21)
Daniel, Margaret (Clonmel, 20)
Day, Mary (Dublin, 23)
Demsey, Sarah (Dublin, 17)
Donaldson, Jane (Monaghan, 20)
Donaldson, Prudence (Monaghan, 19)
Donohue, Margaret (Clonmel, 28)
Dool, Jemima (Derry, 19)
Doran, Bridget (Clonmel, 18)
Doyle, Margaret (Dublin, 24)
Doyle, Maria (Dublin, 26)
Doyle, Mary (Dublin, 21)
Dunn, Eleanor (Dublin, 24)
Finlay, Maria (Dublin, 18)
Fitzroy, Johanna (Dublin, 23)
Flanagan, Anne (Tipperary, 20)
Flanagan, Mary (Tipperary, 18)
Flora, Bridget (Dublin, 25)
Fulham, Harriet (Dublin, 19)
Gaffney, Jane (Meath, 20)
Gallagher, Cathe (Tyrone, 21)
Gallagher, Margaret (Dublin, 24)
Garry, Anne (Meath, 21)
Glascott, Judy (Clonmel, 18)
Cogen, Mary (Dublin, 30)
Goodwin, Ellen (Dublin, 20)
Grace, Kate (Dublin, 21)
Graham, Ellen (Dublin, 25)
Hefferty, Mary (Donegal, 21)
Hall, Maria (Dublin, 20)
Hanrahan, Cathe (Kilkenny, 23)
Haurahan, Johanna (Kilkenny, 21)
Henderson, Jane (Derry, 27)
Henry, Selina (Dublin, 23)
Hinds, Sarah (Armagh, 23)
Hughes, Charlotte (Dublin, 19)
Hunter, Mary (Antrim, 23)
Hyland, Honor (Clonmel, 18)
Jones, Mary (Dublin, 30)
Kane, Matilda (Tyrone, 18)
Keane, Esther (Dublin, 25)
Keating, Mary (Kilkenny, 25)
Keegan, Susan (Dublin, 20)
Kehse, Mary (Dublin, 20)
Kelly, Charlotte (Dublin, 19)
Kerr, Rose (Armagh, 31)
Lacy, Elizabeth (Dublin, 18)
Lavenny, Judy (Galway, 19)
Lawrence, Jane (Cork, 20)
Lee, Catherine (Dublin, 20)
Lee, Nora (Dublin, 20)
Leekey, Elizabeth (Antrim, 21)
Lodge, Dora (Dublin, 27)
Maher, Anne (Kildare, 20)
Mann, Mary (Clare, 21)
Mannsell, Anna (Tipperary, 18)
Mannsett, Mary (Dublin, 21)
McAlendon, Anne (Dublin, 19)
McAlister, Margaret (Armagh, 20)
McBride, Jane (Fermanagh, 27)
McCafferty, Bridget (Donegal, 22)
McCafferty, Margaret (Donegal, 20)
McDonnell, Mary (Donegal, 27)
McEvitt, Isabella (Dublin, 19)
McGuigan, Jane (Tyrone, 18)
McGuire, Johanna (Dublin, 18)
McIleen, Margaret (Dublin, 17)
McItee, Ann (Dublin, 19)
McNamara, Fanny (Dublin, 18)
McNamara, Isabella (Armagh, 31)
Merrigan, Anne (Dublin, 22)
Merrigan, Eliza (Dublin, 20)
Milton, Anne (Wicklow, 24)
Moore, Mary (Dublin, 18)
Mullin, Olivia (Dublin, 26)
Murphy, Anne (Dublin, 23)
Murphy, Bridget (Limerick, 19)
Murphy, Mary (Limerick, 26)
Myles, Isabella (Donegal, 21)
Neale, Honor (Kilkenny, 27)
Neary, Mary (Kilkenny, 30)
Neill, Margaret (Tipperary, 19)
Norton, Anne (Dublin, 23)
Norton, Ellen (Dublin, 25)
O'Neal, Cathe (Kildare, 26)
O'Neill, Anne (Dublin, 26)
Phillips, Mary (Antrim, 26)
Power, Susan (Dublin, 27)
Purss, Harriet (Middlesex, 15)
Read, Jane (Dublin, 18)
Robinson, Sarah (Dublin, 19)
Ryan, Judith (Tipperary, 18)
Schulle, Fredericka (Middlesex, 29)
Shea, Mary (Clonmel, 18)
Sheeran, Mary (Fermanagh, 18)
Singleton, Eliza (Dublin, 21)
Slavin, Sarah (Fermanagh, 10)
Smith, Mary (Dublin, 18)
Sullivan, Margaret (Dublin, 26)
Tago (or Tays or Teys), Catherine (Donegal, 24)
Talbot, Anne (Dublin, 28)
Taylor, Elizabeth (Armagh, 21)
Tobin, Mary (Clonmel, 18)
Toole, Mary (Dublin, 28)
Walsh, Elizabeth (Kilkenny, 23)
Warren, Mary (Dublin, 18)
Waters, Maria (Dublin, 19)
Weir, Ellen (Antrim, 19)
Weir, Mary (Antrim, 24)
Welch, Sarah (Clonmel, 24)
Whelan, Anne (Dublin, 27)
White, Margaret (Clonmel, 18)
White, Mary (Kildare, 21)
White, Mary (Donegal, 20)
Winstan, Maria (Cork, 20)
List of Women Who Went To Grahamstown
In addition to 153 Irish women who came out on board the Lady Kennaway,
another large group of artisans and their families
also sailed. The official list was as follows:
George, Carpenter (Surrey, 31)
Mary (Wife, 28)
Children: Sarah (7), Jane (6)
John, Labourer (Galway, 30)
Catherine (Wife, 24)
Children: Mary (2), John (1)
Patrick, Farm Servant (Monaghan, 22)
Catherine (Wife, 24)
Child: Owen (baby)
Frederick, Carpenter (Middlesex, 32)
Eliza (Wife, 31)
Children: Samuel (8), Harry (5), George (3)
Charles, Carpenter (Middlesex, 28)
Emma (Wife, 24)
Child: Eliza (baby)
William, Carpenter (Middlesex, 35)
Charlotte (Wife, 25)
Children: William (3), Louisa (3), Mary (1)
James, Farm Servant (Tyrone, 22)
Ann (Wife, 18)
William, Carpenter (Essex, 23)
Sarah (Wife, 23)
Children: Eliza (2), Ruth (baby)
Richard, Labourer (Middlesex, 21)
Margaret (Wife, 23)
John, Farm Servant (Dublin, 42)
Bridget (Wife, 35)
William, Labourer (Antrim, 25)
Eliza (Wife, 22)
Child: Lilly (2)
Peter, Labourer (Middlesex, 26)
Elizabeth (Wife, 23)
John, Bricklayer (Middlesex, 36)
Mary (Wife, 36)
Children: John (18), Edward (2)
Edgar, Carpenter (Middlesex, 26)
Susan (Wife, 23)
Children: Susan (5), Anne (1)
Charles, Bricklayer (Middlesex, 40)
Harriet (Wife, 44)
Charles, Carpenter (Middlesex, 24)
Cathe (Wife, 20)
Child: Samuel (1)
Thomas, Carpenter (Middlesex, 31)
Mary (Wife, 28)
Children: Thomas (9), Elizabeth (7), William (5), Emma (3), Emma (baby)
[probably one of these two was not "Emma" but an
incorrect name was written into the register]
John, Carpenter (Middlesex, 27)
Harriet (Wife, 25)
Children: Martha (4), Eliza (2)
Gerald, Labourer (Antrim, 20)
Mary (Wife, 26)
William, Carpenter (Middlesex, 42)
Anne (Wife, 26)
Children: William (Carpenter, 17), John (Carpenter, 15), Harry
(Carpenter, 13), Mary (11), James (7), Rebecca (5), Robert
(3), Samuel (baby)
William, Farm Servant (Armagh, 23)
Eliza (Wife, 24)
Child: Robert (baby)
Thats it!! I hope I helped some one!!
For many years I have been collecting information about the descendants,
anywhere in the world, of families from the island of Benbecula, Parish
of South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland. If anyone on the list knows
of any Benbecula individuals or families, I should very much like to
hear from you.
I am doing research of my mothers family whom came from Devon, England.
I know that there is a wealth of information on the two brothers who
participated in the Zulu War in 1879. They were Henry Hope Crealock and John
But what I am curious about is that I was given a list of addresses to
various Crealocks around the world. Included amongst them were two from
Natal. They are
Mrs. H Crealock
12 Sandown Rd.
Snell Parade, Natal
South Africa 4001
Mrs. A Crealock
89 Regent Ave.
Brighton Beach, Natal
South Africa 4052
These addresses could be 20-30 years old and these people may only be found
in the local graveyards. I have no idea how these two people are tied into
the family tree.
I have searched out the Crealock name for 14 generations back to 1500's to
when parish records were first recorded. The name is only found in Devon,
England up until the 1800's when a few of the Crealocks migrated to North
So if you have any means of helping me, it would be appreciated.
Prince George, BC
One name CREALOCK
Hallo all listers in Potchefstroom,
More than half a year ago I posted a query which was answered in general
terms by mrs. Deirdre Waldeck of Durban, but no specific answers were
received. I hope there are listers from Potchefstroom now on the list
who are prepared to give information.
Cornelis BOTHOF (with a T, so not Boshof) died in Potchefstroom on 27
September 1890. I know that at the time there was no official BMD
registration there, but his death may be in a church book of the
protestant church in Potchefstroom. Perhaps there is a cemetery
registration. Is there a possibility to get a death notice from that
church? How should I proceed?
Are there, in any library, local newspapers covering this period? There
may be an article on Cornelis BOTHOF's death, which occurred after he
was wounded in a leg. Is there anybody in a position to do a look up?
Would it be possible to find out how and when he arrived in SA? Are
there shipping lists for say a few years before 1890? He definetely did
not live more than a few years in SA.
I am prepared to do a look up in this country in return for the
person(s) who can help me.
Leusden, The Netherlands
P.S. Also answers in Afrikaans are welcome!
I am hopeful for any information on my GGfathers company based in Port
Elizabeth in the eary 1900's. I have a copy of one of the bills for his
company as follows:-
Stanley Jones & Co
Drapers and Ladies ' Outfitters - Phone 4108
Late Matthews & Co
109 Main Street.
Any information/lookups on the company or the area would be appreciated, I
am in the UK so not a local travel opportunity!
Mark Jones - jonesms(a)eurobell.co.uk
melinde sanborn wrote:
> Dear Listers,
> I am hopeful of contacting the descendants of one Sam or Samuel
> BOUTLOUR, of Dutch descent, who married a Miss McLELLAN, originally from
> the island of Benbecula, Inverness-shire, Scotland. They were living in
> the 1880s, but we do not know where. At least some of the family worked
> in a coal mine.
> Do these names sound familiar to anyone?
> George SANBORN
The name BOUTLOUR does not sound Dutch at all. Could it be a reading
Leusden The Netherlands
I am seeking information on 2 persons who emigrated from England/Wales
to South Africa.
1)Walter Roberts born Carmarthen 1846 who married Alice Price & had 9
daughters.He must have arrived in South Africa before 1881.
2)Frederick Ernest Roberts born 1870/1 Kensington London & married Ada
who by 1897 was an accountant in Johannesburg.
Could someone advise me what records if any are available & where they
are located relating to persons who emigrated in this time period.
Many thanks for any help.
Send an e-mail to <South-Africa-L-request(a)apple.rootsweb.com>
In the subject line write: archive
in the body of the message write only: archive help
I think you can get instructions that way.
Grant Nurden wrote:
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> I recall that there was some discussion about an archive of messages but I
> do not know how or where to find it. Please will some kind soul point me in
> the right direction.
> Many thanks.
> Grant Nurden
> Actagen Genealogical Research Services
> Pietermaritzburg, Kwazulu-Natal
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Having had my service provider go down for virtually the whole weekend, all
messages on the mailing list were bounced back to source, and as a result
Rootsweb removed me from the list.
I recall that there was some discussion about an archive of messages but I
do not know how or where to find it. Please will some kind soul point me in
the right direction.
Actagen Genealogical Research Services
I'm sorry I'm not responding to your Crealock question though I did look it
up in the Dunedin, New Zealand ph. book and of course there are not any
What caught my attention was your saying you had a wealth of information on
your Crealock brothers who fought in the Zulu war in 1879. I have an
ancestor in South Africa at this time supposedly fighting in a war. Did
you mean you had information about their war records? If so, did you get
your info. from family sorces or official sources in England or South
Researching Peake, Carly, Charrosin
Randall and Charrosin in Whitstable.
>My JOHNSTON/E is Andrew he later married Jane McKinley
>BALLANTYNE(born 1855 in Glasgow) in Pietermaritzburg. He had
a printing business.
There is an Andrew Johnstone (26) with his wife Christina and 2 year old son
James emigrating in 1861, and an infant Andrew with his parents James and
Janet and siblings Eliza, William, Mary and Agnes emigrating in 1860.
Neither of these seem to quite fit the bill.
Try finding if "The Friend" or Afrik daily paper for Bloemfontein is in a
library. All movement between cities needed a permit & permit holders were
listed in the local city, giving origin & destination of journey. Here in
Melbourne the Jhb papers of that period are on fiche, so feel sure the Bloem
library/archives should have copies.
My JOHNSTON/E is Andrew he later married Jane McKinley
BALLANTYNE(born 1855 in Glasgow) in Pietermaritzburg. He had
a printing business.
My POSS I don't know his christrian name but he later married
Margaret Williamson BALLANTYNE (born 1854 in Glasgow).
I thought that the families may have come out to South Africa
together or known eachother before in Glasgow. The
BALLANTYNEs' came out on "The Natal Star" arriving in Natal on
the 18th Sep. 1868. They were not assisted immigrants.
Thanks for your help.
Phil and Ann PETIT (nee ROSCOE)
Ex Sth Af, Aus and now France.
UK & Sth-Af: ROSCOE - BALLANTYNE - CHAMBERS - CROMPTON - GRUNDY - BORTON
F: PETIT - DUCASTEL - BLANDIN - CARTON - LECOQ - THOMAS - PIERROT
I am looking for descendants of Edward THOMPSON and Louisa Rachel NELSON,
buried in a common grave at Ncera Methodist Church near East London. In
particular, I am looking for descendants, if any, of Thomas Nelson THOMPSON
(1838, Westmorland) and Jessie THOMPSON, presumed a son perhaps born in SA
Other descendants through daughters would be MINTO, HARTY and WRIGHT (thanks
to those who responded about WRIGHTS previously - any more?).
On 26 Feb 99, at 8:42, Ann, phpetit(a)in-net.inba.fr wrote:
> Is it possible to find lists of immigrants coming to South Africa
> during the period 1850 to 1880 without knowing which boat they
> sailed on.
That succinctly states my own problem, Ann. I too am looking for
information along these lines and if anyone could give me a few pointers I
will be extremely grateful.
For years I have been trying to establish the date of arrival of the
GARVIE progenitor to South Africa. He arrived in Knysna circa 1880.
Laurance GARVIE b.12 July 1845 married to Johanna SUTHERLAND in 1869 left
Edinburgh, Scotland for the Cape Colony with five children (John, Donald,
Lawrance, James and William)soon after 1877. They sailed into Knysna but
the date and ship are unknown. Laurance had been recruited as a forester
and I suspect may have come out under this programme. A child, Charles,
was born in Knysna in 1884.
I have exhausted (I think) all resources in the Knysna area with no luck.
I have checked with local historians, libraries, museums, and churches.
In my research I did discover:
* the baptism records of two children (Charles and Ebenezer) in the
archives of the DRC!!!!!
* Charles was named Charles NANGLE BOTHA FORDYTH GARVIE. Nangle was the
doctor who delivered him. Botha was Ds Michiel Christian Botha of
the Knysna, DRC and, Fordyth evidently the name of the midwife!
Anyone on the list who can shed more light on these names?
* an advert in the _George and Knysna Herald_, 15 Sep 1886 to a
"boarding house" in Main Street, Knysna run for the Knysna Gold
Fields. This was apparently liquidated when the mines crashed.
* a family of labourers in Belvidere, Knysna who "adopted" the Garvie
surname: Johannes and Martha Garvie and their children Daniel
Jacobus, Martha Eliza, Helena Madalena and Johannes Petrus.
(Baptismal entries in the Parish of st George). Here too I would like
to trace descendants of this family.
* Laurance and Johanna Garvie left Knysna and moved to Kimberley
sometime 1887/8 A child, Albert was born and died in infancy thre.
Perhaps someone on the list with a better detective mind than my own could
suggest another line of approach or how I can take this research further.
It is like looking for the needle in the haystack. From 1815 to 1913 it is
estimated that at least 24 million emigrants left the British Isles. But
what gives me a little hope is that *only* about 2 million came from
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