While not a member of the LDS church have spent quite a few
years volunteering in my local family history centers so feel
I can give a little information about the IGI etc. Hope nobody minds.
The entries come from several sources:
1) members of the church who add their family member's names
and information for baptism of the dead (you will often see
reference to Ordinance, a date and place of baptism). The member
information if placed in the IGI primarily, I understand, to assist
other church members find their ancestors. I also understand that
all church members try to find at least 4 generations back for
these ordinances. The batch numbers for these entries will not
commonly have letters ie the Batch number for the marriage of
Dwight & Charlotte Wilson below has no letter so is an entry
of a church member. The film would show the original entry
and most, but not all, reference where the information was
gleaned--ie family bible, town records, etc. An A in front of
the batch number is a marriage also entered by a church
member. But rule number one with this type of IGI entry is
to only use it as a working file..not as the end of your
research. This said I have also found some great stuff
in the ordinance files from the 1890s. Names of the
contributor's aunts, cousins etc with approx birth dates
and places of births. In this particular case this person knew
the deceased cousins and aunts & uncles so I have used it as a type of
oral family history and so note it as such. Most I have been able to
BUT as Linda says, the information can be so far out of line as
to be useless. Which is why there may be multiple entries of
the birth or marriage of supposedly one particular person with
dates as far apart as 20 years and 2 or 3 different spouses all
at the same time so ALWAYS try to verify everything and/or find
supporting information. AND I always look at the original film
to check the full entry for the IGI.
I had found one family connected to the Sacketts with all the
siblings but one entered into the baptismal ordinances in the
1920s, by a person who had to have known about his uncle, and
was told by a church member that if the uncle was not a member
of the LDS and living family members objected to the baptism
it would not have been done. Which may well have been what
happened or maybe GrUncle Arthur didn't like that uncle and
didn't want to spend eternity with him!
By the way, I have heard some people object to the blanket
baptism of the dead non members of the LDS church (their believe,
in common with some other religious, has a heaven only inhabited
by baptized members of the church) but without getting into a
If you don't believe it will work, why be upset!
But before you stop reading...
2) The extraction of records filmed by the LDS by permission
of the record holder..for instance the Scottish Parish records
before 1855. These records have Batch numbers preceded by
letters. Commonly C for christenings, M for marriages etc
B for burials. Now some have P. These would be primary records
So the Batch number can indicate what kind of record will
be found on the film. Also if in doubt, do the LDS library
search by film number which will give the description of the
film. (this is one of the search options)
Generally I have found it very useful to look at the film
with the IGI entry..often you will find multiple entries
by the same person. Newer IGI entries will have a better chance
of contacting the person who made the entry but once or twice
I have been lucky. Some old pictures were found through a daughter
of one Sackett who had entered many of his family and had died
before I found the entries.
It has only been lately that I have found entries with no
source given for the entry. Hopefully, this will not become
Deaths are not usually shown in the IGI but may be found
in the original entries.
As a non church member I did enter the information from a family
bible into the Ancestral file..simple to make the information
available not for death baptism.
From: Thurmon E King [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: [SACKETT-L] Dwight Sackett - need parents
I think the information you had came from another database on World
Connect #:11466 by a Drummond. It has the one son named Otis Eugene born
I have found another problem concerning the marriage of Dwight Sackett
and Caroline A. Bolton. Some sources have Dwights birth as 1824
Worcester, MA and his marriage there in 1844. It appears that the
information there came from the LDS IGI. Files there have two dates and
two different sources cited:
(1). Dwight Sackett; Male
Marriage: 15 MAR 1824 Of, Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts
Source Information: Film Number: 183515; Page Number: 254; Reference
(2). DWIGHT SACKETT; Male
Spouse: CHARLOTTE E. WILSON
Marriage: 15 MAR 1844 Leominster, Worcester, Massachusetts
Source Information: Batch Number: 7130128; Sheet: 14 ; Source Call No.:
0538998; Type: Film
It is not clear whether these films are of original records, or are of
contributed data. From the information above it appears that there is a
problem with the information found on the films. Another problem relates
to the name of his wife. The 2nd source gives the name of Dwight's bride
as Charlotte E. Wilson. But the 1850 and 1870 censuses give the name of
his wife as Caroline A. Sackett. Mary Lou Sackett has the marriage date
and place as March 01, 1845, Brattleboro, Windham Co., VT.
Mary Lou would have more information about finding records in MI than I
do. But if one could get a copy of Dwight's death certificate some
valuable information can be gained from it.
The answer to question about when it is appropriate to add an individual
to your family tree depends upon who is giving the answer.
Generally a connection should be a tentative connection until it is
proven by source documents. The purists generally insist upon having
documentation from primary source documents. And insist upon viewing the
document, or image of the document themselves. With the older
handwritten documents this is important because letters in the words can
easily be transcribed incorrectly and another person reading the same
document can read it correctly. So research done by others should be
double checked to make sure it is correct.
Those of us on the SACKETT-L and members of TSFA are tryiing to correct
errors in Weygant's book and add information and sources that he did not
supply. At the same time we are compiling information on as many Sackett
descendants as possible.
So the purists "grit their teeth" at the kind of work I am doing. I make
tentative connections and then look to others to help with finding the
sources and inform me of any errors I may have posted. I do this because
information comes in from others in such a large quantity that I am not
able to access and view the source documents myself.
But, as you have noticed, I do check the data for inconsistencies and
look for clues.
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:29:43 -0800 Robin Smith <unsackett(a)sbcglobal.net>
I understand. I also assumed that Eugene had died in infancy. I
had taken the birth dates from another researchers tree and did not
the discrepancy until you pointed it out. I will look for
the the date.
I feel that it is likely that Dwight Sackett son of Asher Sackett Jr.
indeed the connection I was looking for (given the dates, the older
Henry, and the coincidence of a Dwight and Henry of the proper ages
Assyria). Do you have any suggestions on how I might confirm this.
When is it appropriate to add these ancestors to my tree. Is there an
etiquette regarding how much confirmation one should have. As I said, I
genealogy newby. Again, I greatly appreciate your help.
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