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In my original post of 30 April, I accidently listed the date of birth one
hundred years late. Maybe that's why no one recognized my GGG-grandmother.
I am looking for parents of Erminia SACKETT, b 11 Dec 1796, d 22 Apr
1876. Married 1810 to James PARKER, b 1 Apr 1789, Would love to know the
parents and siblings of Erminia SACKETT (PARKER).
Susanna, an angel friend of mine sent me the following list of her brothers
from, "The Sacketts of America, their Ancestors and Descendants, 1630-1907"
by Charles Weygant published in 1907. At the top of page 150 is Erminia
Erminia's siblings were:
Elisabeth Stebbins Sackett, b. Dec 11, 1791, d. Mar 1860; m. John Parker.
Electa Sackett, b. July 26, 1800; m. Homer Van Buren.
Ebenezer B. Sackett, b. Dec 2, 1803, d. Nov 5, 1867; m. Emily Taylor.
Erwin Sackett, b. Sept. 25, 1807; m. Lucinda Bacon.
Unfortunately, information on the parents was on the previous page and
I don't have a copy of it. The father was an ensign and a lieutenant
in a Washington County Regiment. In 1809 he moved to Gouverneur, St.
Lawrnece County, NY and lived there until his death in 1813.
Does anyone have access to Waygant's book and could you look on page 149 and
let me know who Erminia's parents were. I would love to know if her
children are listed, also.
Thanks so much.
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Chris, But it's the "little people" that make up the world! All of us &
our everyday ordinary lives. that's what it's really all about! I just
want to publicly THANK YOU for sharing these private letters. What an
insight it is gives us all! Cindy
Cindy Torres Owens
1023 Aquia Dr
Stafford, VA 22554-1940
I am delighted that so many of you are enjoying the Lillie letters. I
feared that they might be found rather dull and repetitive. Daily life
during the Occupation was often mundane, a struggle just to keep going, and
I rather think the letters reflect this. Which perhaps adds to the
authenticity of Lillie's account.
I am about a third of the way through the letters and intend to collate the
whole set together, with accompanying notes, upon completion. I can then
make the whole thing available as an attached file.
Before going to Lillie.34, here is how Charles Cruickshank described daily
life in his "The German Occupation of the Channel Islands":
"No two Islanders were affected in exactly the same way by the occupation.
Most resented the presence of the Germans right to the end. Some, after
they had recovered from the shock of seeing field-grey uniforms in the
narrow streets of St Peter Port and St Helier, decided to follow the advice
of the Island authorities and patiently wait for liberation. Some found
themselves pleasantly surprised by the immaculate behaviour of the troops,
which belied tales of atrocities in other countries, and they allowed
themselves to believe that the Germans were human after all. Some - happily
few - thought that Hitler would win the war and were prepared to help the
invaders on the assumption that after the final victory they would be
rewarded. Some believed - wrongly, as it turned out - that they could have
their cake and eat it: that when the Germans were expelled from the Islands
their collaboration would pass unnoticed in the relief and excitement of
liberation. Some young women, moved by a natural desire for male company,
or by an equally natural desire to enjoy the fruits of fraternization -
cigarettes, liquor, and scarce foodstuffs, rather than the occasional child
- were prepared to receive the occupying troops with open arms.
"It was, however, not only the personal qualities of the individual
Islander that made them react in an infinite variety of ways to the
occupation. Their place in society, and their wealth, or lack of it, were
equally relevant. A poor man - labourer, clerk, or shop assistant - faced
years in which most of the necessities of life would become scarcer and
more costly with less equanimity than a man of ample means. The latter
could buy in the black market and raise his standard of living to something
like the peacetime level; and even when food became seriously short towards
the end of the occupation richer peolpe continued to be relatively better
"It was more difficult for the town dweller to grow vegetables than it was
for the countryman with the large garden. Some people kept their gardens
all through the occupation; others lost them when their houses were taken
over for billets. The farmer, at the risk of heavy fines or imprisonment,
could so manage things that some of his produce found its way into his
private storehouse in greater quantities than the regulations allowed. It
was hardly likely that the fisherman would go without fish. The single
person who had been living on a pension from England, now cut off, found
life much more difficult than someone who took a job with the occupying
forces with the good pay and the extra rations that went with it. The very
old, perhaps with no one to fend for them, were particularly vulnerable to
the shortage of food and the cold winters, and were worse off than the very
young, who were well provided for under the rationing schemes and better
able to resist disease. In short, no two people had exactly the same
experience. This must be borne in mind when generalizations are made about
life during the occupation."
Here is Lillie.34.
Sunday Aug 17th 1941
We had a real wet week for Arthur's holiday. We went for a short walk on
the Monday evening & on the Tuesday we went to Jerbourg & sat in a field &
read for about an hour & that is all we have been able to do. The rain, it
rained every day. We went into Town on Friday afternoon but it came in wet
& was not at all pleasant. Today it has been so cold we have had to have a
We now know just the amount of Gas we can use. It amounts to 200 cubic feet
per week for the two of us, so you can imagine about how little cooking I
shall be able to do. We won't dare to use it for lighting purposes. We just
go to bed when it gets dark. As for ironing, that is a thing of the past. I
have not any iron except the Gas iron & it is not possible to buy any,
besides there is so little coal we shall have to depend on wood fires for
all purposes. It all makes living very difficult, but we don't despair. We
shall be experts at making the best of things by the time we are finished.
We had another message from Mollie yesterday. It is nice to hear of them &
to know they are well. This last one was sent on May 18th & received on Aug
16th. We are now able to send one message per month.
We are still without our "Radio Set". It is now three weeks since they took
it from us. Arthur goes round to Will's often to hear the news. We wish we
could hear more from you, but we must wait with patience trusting you are
being kept in safety & that you are well.
>I am particularly interested in tracking down the English roots of John
>the colonist, since my sister Lauri Sacket DIEL is living at RAF Marham
>(near King's Lynn) with her exchange officer husband and could do some
>records research on the other side of the pond.
First, I'd to say I personally would like to share information with
you on our common ancestors: John & Agnes, Jonathan & Hannah as
well as Captain Richard and Margery.
The group has a wealth of information for you on the mystery of John the
colonist. Chris Sackett of the Isle of Guernsey wrote up a marvelous
piece of work on the different possibilities for John some time ago on
this mailing list.
Weygant made some presumptions about Simon and John being brothers that
the group has not been able to prove. Chris attempted to connect John
somewhere among several alternatives but no proof has been found as of
yet on any of them.
Absolutely! More research can be done in this area but a word of warning,
it will not be easy. There are several Snail Mail members of this group
who live in the UK. Perhaps your sister would be able to communicate
with them. What a treat!
Chris, I'll let you share the "Where's John?" paper with Wendy if you'd
like. Otherwise, I'll be happy to send it to her. Also, if you could
provide the addresses of the UK "cousins", it would be desired, I'm sure!
I'm SO envious!
Nancy Cluff Siders
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OHHIGHLA-L (Highland Co., Ohio) http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/ohio/
I noticed your new query on the Roots Surname Lists for SACKETT. In case
you are not already aware, we have a SACKETT-L Mailing List. You will
find the instructions on how to join at:
Also you will find brief introductions as to how many of us are related to
the SACKETT name. SACKETT-L is a closed list due to spammer threats.
However there is no charge to join and to post a query. RootsWeb Genealogical
Data Cooperative graciously supports us by providing the server for the
Of course, donations may be made to them at any time. (RootsWeb is where you
posted your query.)
If you have any questions or problems subscribing, please do not hesitate to
Nancy Cluff Siders Originally from Highland Co., OH
704 Sunrise Road Living now in New Mexico
Roswell, NM 88201 eMail: nancy(a)email.nmmi.cc.nm.us
Home: (505)624-2341 or: siders(a)lookingglass.net
Father's: CLUFF/CLOUGH SCAMMAHORN/SCHERMERHORN ROBINSON WASHBURN
SHAVER/SCHEEVER MILLER RIDENOUR HENTON/HINTON FUELCE/FUILCE/FIULCE
Mother's: MCKAY/MACKAY OLDEN SACKETT PARTRIDGE LETSON/LITSON ROGERS
WOODRUFF/WOODROOF BOSTWICK BLANCHARD OSBORN TYLER SMITH WHALEY
HEARNDON MASTON WICKENDEN BALLOU CLINTON DARLING GARDINER GEREARDY
HARRINGTON HASTINGS HOLLIMAN KNYVETT MARKHAM MILLS MORTON POLE
POLLET STEERE STRELLEY WHIPPLE WHITE KEAN WILLOUGHBY KEMP LEE,
ROSE SEABURY TINKHAM WOODWARD, et. al. back to 140 AD.
I am Listowner for:
SACKETT-L Mailing List
COUNTRYMAN-L Mailing List http://www.nmmi.cc.nm.us/~nancy/countryman
OHHIGHLA-L Mailing List (Highland Co., Ohio)
After researching the Hood sinking, I thought it would be interesting to
see how the events were reported in the Guernsey Evening Press, as read by
Arthur and Lillie. Of course, all reports in the newspaper were censored by
the Germans (they had a resident censor in the newspaper's offices).
The Germans were, however, unable to suppress news of their losses.
Islanders would have got the news, anyway, from B.B.C. radio broadcasts.
Even when radios were banned, many sets were operated clandestinely,
secreted in sheds, lofts, under floorboards, up chimneys. But the Germans
made as much propaganda use of the news as they could. Much of this was
fairly unsubtle (British losses = big headlines: German losses = small
headlines) and we know from Lillie that Islanders were not fooled.
This is how the battle was reported in Lillie's local paper:
Monday 26th May 1941
Appalling Loss for the British Navy
HMS Hood Sunk During a Short but Heavy Battle
The German Supreme Command of May 25th announces:
"After a short but heavy battle the battleship "Bismark" (sic) sank the
British battle-cruiser "Hood", the largest battleship of the British Fleet.
A further battleship of the most modern English "King George" class was
damaged and forced to turn off.
The German naval units continued their operations without losses."
Wednesday 28th May 1941
THE DRAMATIC FATE OF HMS "HOOD"
Britain's Largest Warship Blown Up
Interesting Details of the Ship
In the waters around Iceland, a short heavy fight took place between
British and German Naval forces, in the course of which the German
battleship "Bismark" (sic) sank the British battle-cruiser "Hood" - the
biggest battleship of the British Fleet. The Hood was directly hit in the
ammunition magazine, and blown up. The loss of the "Hood" has been admitted
by the British Admiralty. The 42,100 tons battle-cruiser "Hood" was the
biggest battleship in the World.
[There follows a full specification of the ship, her history, armaments,
etc. occupying several columns. Note: the Bismarck, at 50,000 tons was
bigger than the Hood]
Thursday 29th May 1941
"Bismarck" Sinks With Flying Colours,
Together With the Commander and Brave Crew
[the above a relatively small headline under the much bigger
"British Forces on Crete Driven From Their Positions by German Troops"]
The German Supreme Command of May 28th announces:-
"As already announced yesterday, the German battleship "Bismarck" was
incapacitated by torpedo hits fired by a British 'plane in the evening of
May 26th, after her victorious naval encounter in the waters around
Iceland. True to the last wireless message of the Commander of the Fleet,
Admiral Luetjens, the battleship sank with flying colours together with her
Commandant, Captain Lindemann, and her brave crew, in the forenoon of May
27th in the face of numerically superior enemy forces."
Friday May 30th 1941
The Bismarck Sunk
Concerning the last fight of the German battleship "Bismarck", the German
Supreme Command communique states:- "In the fight against forces which were
being continually reinforced, the Bismarck, which had become unmanageable
by May 27th, became the victim of the superior strength of the three
British battleships, aircraft carrier, and several cruisers and destroyers.
The British units were themselves being heavily attacked by our aircraft
early yesterday morning."
Great site! Check it out. Below are the Sacketss in WI. Cindy
Bureau of Land Management - Eastern States, General Land Office
There were 7 matches to your request. This is page 1 of 1
PATENTEE NAME SIGNATURE DATE DOCUMENT NUMBER ACCESSION NUMBER
SACKETT, ALONZO 2/22/1858 21073 WI1520__.323
SACKETT, BETHENA 3/3/1843 8665 WI2640__.072
SACKETT, DANIEL 4/15/1856 4498 WI0700__.160
SACKETT, DANIEL 4/15/1856 4499 WI0700__.161
SACKETT, ELDRED E 9/20/1884 6149 WI0250__.044
SACKETT, WILLIAM D 4/9/1892 4332 WI0360__.280
SACKETT, WILLIAM 4/15/1856 4496 WI0700__.158
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Sunday July 27th 
I see it is some time since I wrote to you & much has come to pass since
then. The very night after writing to you we had an Air Raid, at 1.30 a.m.
on the Monday morning. It lasted about an hour. We don't know what damage
was done, but we have heard since that 35 of the soldiers were killed & as
many wounded, but they go on just as usual. They keep on bringing more to
We hear from the Baker & Dairy man that there are now 14,000 here. We are
not able to have any extra milk, not even our full ration which is 1 ½
pints per day each. It makes it very difficult as we have to drink milk &
water, so it does not leave much for puddings & porridge.
I don't think I've told you our flour ration has now ceased. We used to
have 1 lb per week for us two, but now the reason given is that we were
getting more than the people in France, so all we have now is our 9 lbs of
bread per week, for us both that is, ½ lb Butter, ¼ of cooking fat, 6 ozs
sugar, 2 ozs salt, 2 ozs B. Soda, & we have had the past few weeks 6 ozs
Barley Meal which has been made at the Mills & that is now gone.
Most weeks we have been able to get a small Box of Cheese from France but
this week that failed. Fortunately, we have plenty of vegetables & have
also our half ration of meat which comes to about ¾ of a lb for the two of
I told you how Douglas has got me some fish sometimes but that is more
difficult to get as the powers that be have issued an Order that the
Fishermen with Motor Boats have to pay a £50 deposit & the sailing boats a
£5 deposit. That is impossible for many of them to do & so there has been
less fish & we can only have it once a fortnight, but is a nice change when
we can get it. As for eggs, it is impossible to get them at all. They all
go to the Gs.
We have had a nice lot of fruit, but not as much as other years. The great
trouble has been the lack of sugar, but we are getting used to eating
without it. We've had raspberries today but no sugar with them.
I made a potato cake yesterday & put a little jam in between. It was not
half bad, but one does get so tired of the same thing so much. What a day
it will be when we can have a few more things to do our cooking etc with.
There is one thing we have enjoyed this summer & that has been the flowers
& shrubs. They have been lovely indeed. The weather has been good for the
hay & we hope there will be a good harvest. About three times as much corn
has been grown as usual. We have plenty of tomatoes, & cheap. They are from
2d to 6d a lb.
Col. Britten & his "V" campaign has brought us much trouble & tribulation.
Some of our people have done as he suggested & put them on the road &
plastered them on the "Road Signs" which of course belong to the Germans.
The result has been that where these are so done all the "Wireless Sets"
have been taken away from those in the area of ¾ of a mile. We have one at
the end of our road & yesterday our set was taken away & the Kamandant says
he will punish further if the ones who have done it do not own up to it. In
France they have taken away the bread ration for three days. If they do
that here, we shall soon be extremely thin. It is all very trying & nerve
racking, but we still keep on hoping it will all end one day.
Last Sunday, Arthur was not well, so he stayed in bed. He had an attack of
sickness which made him feel very weak. He went to see his Dr. on Tuesday &
soon began to mend & is about his usual self now. There has been quite an
epidemic of stomach trouble. Will is not well today. He has been trying to
have Gladys home for a few days to see how she would react to it, but it
has not been a success. She is much better in health but her mind is not
right. Her brother, Jack, is here for a few days from Alderney & Will
thought it might help her to get used to being at home again, but she is
really not fit to carry on with her home duties. It is very hard for Will.
Since telling you about our Radio Set being taken there has been an Order
for the men from the area affected to "patrol" the places which have been
defaced from 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. It is such a stupid thing & very irksome for
the men. It is reported that quite a lot of V's have been put on in the
Town parish, but they have not had their Radios taken away yet, but the men
have to patrol instead.
We are now rationed for Gas. We can only use half the amount we did at this
time last year. It is going to be very difficult a little later on when the
weather gets colder. We have so little coal & none that is really good, so
we shall be dependent on wood fires & will have to go very carefully with
them. However, we shall just make the best of it & keep hoping it won't be
We have had several messages of late from Mollie & Len, also one from Ruth.
They are near each other & meet very frequently. They are all well & happy.
I don't think there are quite so many soldiers here just now. We certainly
are much quieter up here just now, but they are pretty thick in Town &
other parts of the Island. They are very busy building all sorts of
fortifications all round the Island. They have taken charge of two of the
"Timber Merchants" & have marked off as sold quite a lot of wood at
Arthur is having a week's holiday so we shall have to try & get out a bit
if it is fine. The weather has been very unsettled of late with cold
mornings & evenings. It is much finer today, but there is a very high wind.
On Monday last (Bank holiday), we went to the Forest to see our friends &
had tea with them, but it came on to rain & we had a very wet ride home.
But we did enjoy it &, better still, Miss Alles was able to sell us a dozen
eggs which we were very glad indeed to have. They are now 4/- per dozen.
We are now supposed to have only 1 ½ pints of milk per day, but my milkman,
who is a farmer, has only once had to dock my usual 2 pints, so there are
some advantages of living in the country.
Alfred came up to see me last Sunday. He has gone very thin & is looking
more his age, but he is still working at the Hospital. He does not think he
will be able to come up again. He finds it is too far to walk & of course
there are no buses now. Lydia keeps well, but she too is failing. It is a
good thing they have Douglas with them. He is a good boy & very helpful to
his Mother. He has not been able to get me any fish for three weeks now.
The fishermen can't go out as much as they did.
Note: The Vs referred to by Lillie were V for Victory signs painted by
locals on roads and walls. Some houses in Guernsey still have them painted
on their walls. This graffiti raised the spirits of the inhabitants and
drove the Germans mad!! They tried all sorts of punishments to stop the
outbreak. When the daubing of walls was finally stopped, the locals would
drop split matches (in the shape of a V) in the streets, often just as a
German soldier's back was turned..
Can anyone help Jeff out here. If you could also forward any info to me also
I would appreciate it also. I would also like to know if anyone has any info
on Nathanial Baldwin Sackett. I have only been able to track as far back on
my family tree to him. I would appreciate it if anyone has any info Prior to
Nathanial Baldwin Sackett please send it to me or contact me and I will
forward a mailing address.
Thanks Much Cousins!
I am back subscribed to the SACKETT email list. I had a great trip to the
Grand Canyon and Sedona AZ. Also saw the Metior Crater just east of
I added new updated MS Word software to my new drive and re-formated my old
hard drive to use for scanned photo's and etc. The bad news was when I
changed my AOL software to the new hard drive, I lost all my email address in
my address book and all the marked web pages and unsave email from my
inbasket. So, if your line of desend runs down from Homer Sackett and his son
Orange Sackett, please email me with your email address. Please forward along
any Sackett Web Site URL address.
Does anyone have any info on Agness Mary Young. She was born in
Scotland (7 Aug 1818) and died in Minnesota (6 Feb 1882). She was
married to Nathaniel Baldwin Sackett on 2 Mar 1846. They had the
following children: Soloman (1847-1947), Cyrus (1849-1916), William
(1853-1853), Ellen (1854-?), Robert (1859-1915).
Thanks, Jeff Feeser
>Your web site is great. Did you ever think about having a place on your
>site where people could send you old photos of their Sackett ancestors.
>It would be a great place to share photos and not be inconvient to the
>list, since photos do take a minute or so to download.
Yes, Jeff I have thought of it but graphics take up a lot of disk space.
My job at New Mexico Military Institute (NMMI) is in the computer operation.
We know what happens if we run out of disk space, believe me! NMMI
employees are permitted to have personal home pages. I chose to use mine
for my personal hobby of genealogy. I have tried to keep my personal Home
Page as lean and thin as possible and not take advantage of the gift of
free Home Page space.
Now if someone else in the group has ample space somewhere where we could put
photos and they have the time and expertise to develop a page, I could then
link to it to be easily accessible from the Sackett Home Page... Any one
want to volunteer...?
Nancy Cluff Siders
<nancy(a)email.nmmi.cc.nm.us> or <nancy(a)yogi.nmmi.cc.nm.us> or
OHHIGHLA-L (Highland Co., Ohio) http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/ohio/
Nora Wolfe wrote:
> Hi everybody and especially Cindy for all her Sherlock Holmes activity. when
> I was talking to Windsor, CT about the wife of Edward Griswold, (was she Hicks
> or something else), they sent me a photocopy from a book called The Griswold
> Family, The First Five Generations in America by Esther Griswold French and
> Robert Lewis French. They were of the Griswold Family Association. This book
> states that Edward's parents were;
> George Griswold bd 11/6/1574 and his first wife Dousabel Leigh (Lye, Ley)
> I am posting this because you, Cindy, had George's wife as Dorothy. Has any
> one else seen this Dousabel Leigh name anywhere? Can we confirm it? What do
> you think Cindy? Nora
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Yes Nora - I Have george Griswold wife as Dousabel Leigh. This was from
a Coat of Arms of another person who was from the Griswold family and
approved by the Colonial Dames 17th Cen. at the Hdqs in Washington DC.
You can see it there. Ruth
Would anyone have access to the book, "Descendants of Abner Wight, son of
John Wight", by Harried Webster Wight? On page 348, there is mention of my
ancestor, Erminia SACKETT. One page 114, there is mentioned Elizabeth
SACKETT, who may be the sister of my Erminia.
Erminia Sackett married James PARKER 1810. Elizabeth SACKETT married John
PARKER 1812. Were these Sackett girls daughters of Elijah SACKETT? The
children of James PARKER and Erminia SACKETT were born in upstate NY.
Thanks for looking and for any help you might be able to give.
GARY VAN SACKETT 9(WILLIAM 8 Sr JONATHAN 6 & 7 WILLIAM 5 JOHN 4 SIMON 3 THOMAS
b 09 Aug 1790; d 1865 (TX?) m (1)HARRIET HAIGH, m (2) NANCY VANCE (Descent
according to Weygant)
Seeking Children of GARY VAN SACKETT AND HARRIET HAIGH
Seeking Children of GARY VAN SACKETT AND 2nd w NANCY VANCE, dau of WILLIAM
DAVID VANCE & ELIZABETH HARRIS (dau of SAMUEL HARRIS b Harrisburg, Dauphin, PA
d Seneca, NY and ELIZABETH BONNER, m Philadelphia)
James R. Markle
1111 Vine Street
Marshall, Illinois 62441
Nora & All, The info that Don Blincoe sent me listed her as Dousabel also.
Have never heard/seen this name before. Not sure where I got Dorothy from,
Land of Oz??? Anyway what did the Griswolds have to say abt ole Margaret?
PS- Thanks for comparing me to Sherlock!!! :>)
Sorry, my updating of the Home Page has come to once a month.
The last update was 29 March and I finished it for this month
under the wire last night, 30 April.
Not as much activity this month. We have 3 new subscribers.
Welcome! Please send your introductions to the list if you
haven't done so already or if you sent them to me and I didn't
get them to the group.
Also check me out for accuracy. I was pretty tired last night
when I pulled it all together. I may have missed someone or
made a typo. Please let me know of any changes necessary.
Nancy Cluff Siders
<nancy(a)email.nmmi.cc.nm.us> or <nancy(a)yogi.nmmi.cc.nm.us> or
OHHIGHLA-L (Highland Co., Ohio) http://www.aye.net/~dee1234/ohio/
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