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I finally received my copy of the "Sackett's of America" book. I am reading
it now and getting to know more about my line and others. I was hoping for
more naritive, but not much there. I need to find more referance on Orange
Sackett (#1525) of my line.
#6816 on page 357 is my great grandmother. Hattie was her nick name.
Harriet H. Lacy was her real name. She had a few younger brothers and
sisters too (not noted).
While looking at land records in the town of Benson, Rutland Co., VT, I
found the following 2 SACKETT deeds:
1) Vol. 2, Quitclaim deed from Daniel SACKETT of Pittsfield, Berkshire
Co., MA to James NOBLE of Benson. Land in Benson conveyed to me by deed
of James Noble, Jr. and John Noble dated 24 June 1788. Quitclaim deed
dated 11 Feb 1803. Witnessed by Ashbel? STRONG and Eli ROOT. rec. 29
2) Vol. 5, p 412 Daniel Sackett of Pittsfield, MA to John Carter, Jr.
of Benson; land in Benson; 21 Feb 1820. Witnessed by Joshua Danforth,
Jop, and George W. Danforth. Ack before Joshua Danforth, j.o.p. same
day at Berkshire Co., MA. Recorded 1 April 1823.
As I mentioned in a previous note, I spent Friday and Saturday at a
Genealogical Conference--lots of interesting talks, etc. The main emphasis
seems to be the importance of researching all family members--not just our
direct ancestors. I also learned that during 1850, 1860, 1870, there were
THREE copies of each census made. An original, done "in the field", that was
kept by the County, a copy of that, kept by the State, and a copy for the
Feds--this is the one that we use when we look at film and the National
Archives, etc. The point of this particular talk was, that if you find things
that don't add up on a particular family, when looking at census records,
check the other copies. Now, the caveat, there is no master list of what
States and Counties still have these census books, but it sounds like it is
worth checking into.
Now for serendipity. At the conference, there was a booth operated by one of
the local historical societies, where they were selling used books and old
genealogical journals, old gen. Computer programs, etc. I just happened to
pick up an old copy of The American Genealogist, and scanned the contents and
came across this title:
"A Death Date For Simon Sackett of Cambridge MA"
written by our old friend Robert Charles Anderson, of the Great Migration
Begins fame. The article gives a fairly narrowed down death date for
Simon--this is the date found in The Great Migration Begins, so the article
doesn't tell us anything we didn't know, but it does describe how Anderson
arrived at the dates (Between Oct. 5 and Oct. 10 1635). I will transcribe
some of the article:
The American Genealogist July 1988 Vol. 63, No. 3
"A Death Date For Simon Sackett of Cambridge MA"
"Examination of the published proprietors' records for the town of Cambridge
allows us to provide a narrower range for this death date. . .
Each parcel of land is identified by the field or marsh of which it was part,
the number of acres, and the abuttors. Close reading of these inventories
shows that for all inventories recorded on 5 Oct. 1635, or earlier, lands
abutting to lands granted to Simon Sackett show him as the abuttor . . . But
on those occasions in the 10 Oct. Inventories, when the Sackett lands are
show as abutting, the name is either widow Sackett or [blank] Sackett (Camb.
Prop. Recs. pp. 25, 31, 32). Furthermore, the Sackett inventory is recorded
on 10 Oct., and the landholder is shown as [blank] Sackett (Camb. Prop. Recs.
This, Simon Sacket of Cambridge MA died between 5 Oct. and 10 Oct. 1635..."
By Robert Charles Anderson, F.A.S.G.
If anyone wants an actual photocopy of the article--only one page--send me
your snail mail.
Patty S. Chrisman
In a message dated 97-07-24 18:19:59 EDT, you write:
<< She's a desc. of Gov. Dudley, who was a peer of our Simon Sackett. Funny
how the same people are still together after all these years. :) >>
Not sure if this was personal message, but I also have a Dudley in my past.
Chester Dudley married Lydia Leete Carman (sister of my 2nd great
grandfather, Joseph Gardiner Carman). Chester was also Lydia's first cousin
on the LEETE side. The sister of Lydia's mother (Mina Leete) married a
Dudley. Chester was one of her sons. My Sackett branch comes in as the
mother (Frances) of the wife (Harriet Lacy) of the son (George W. Carman) of
noted 2nd cousin above (Joseph G. Carman).
The Leete family was popular in Guilford, CT (first Gov. of colonial CT) and
many Dudleys lived there too. The LEETE's and the DUDLEY's intermarried
some. Not much to do with my SACKETT side (that I know of yet).
I hope this didn't confuse anyone.
Desendant of Homer and his son Orange Sackett.
I have had to lock out non-subscribers from posting to our list. It seems the
spammers that killed MAISER have found RootsWeb. Our list has not been hit yet
but it's probably a matter of time. Just to be on the safe side I have taken
Karen's suggestion and have foreign_submit set to no.
What this means is that you will have to be subscribed to submit anything. Any
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or trash them if junk mail.
Sorry I had to do this but I guess it's for the best.
Subject: Spam on our mailing lists
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 97 08:18:37 PDT
From: Karen Isaacson <karen(a)rand.org>
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It seems we've been found, sigh. Brian's too buried this week
to research whether we can simply block these buzzards (it will
be hard because of the way they forge headers), but if your
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protect against spam by writing to listmaster(a)rootsweb.com and
asking that foreign_submit be set to no for your list. That
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spammers don't seem inclined to subscribe first and post second.
If your list is set up that way, and someone who isn't a subscriber
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The downside of this approach is that some folks' addresses change
with the phase of the moon. RAND has settled down, but it used
to be fairly random whether the address Karen_Isaacson(a)rand.org or
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appeared on my messages. If I wrote from the one formally subscribed,
my message would go through, but not if I wrote from one of the
What I'm going to do today or over the weekend is tweak SmartList
a bit, so that when the list is closed as described above, SmartList
will allow addresses to post that are either subscribed to the
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the listowner can add to via the administrative page for the
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Those of you who have list requests pending, this may delay them
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Does anyone have any more info about the following family? I obtained the
information from this site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8782/
Since I am brand new to the list, I don't know what has been discussed
before but I was intrigued by all the SACKETT stuff I found on the internet
last night. This Zaven SACKETT could be my Laura Louisa's grandfather and
Rolin could be her father. The county is right and the time period works.
103. ROLIN8 SACKETT , SR. (ZAVEN7, ISAAC6, JOHN5, JOHN4, SIMON3, THOMAS2,
THOMAS1) was born 1785, and died March 1881 in Meadville, Crawford County,
Pennsylvania, USA. He married (1) LOVINA EDSON 1807 in
Meadville, Crawford County, Pennsylvania, USA, daughter of JAMES EDSON
and LOVINA HANCOCK. He married (2) PERMELIA CHAMBERLAIN Abt. 1828 in
Meadville, Crawford County, Pennsylvania, USA.
Are we quite sure that the Z in Zaven is not a G? Where did the data come
from? Census? Other family records? Anyone else on this list with SACKETT
kin from Crawford County, PA?
Dear Debbie Geel
A good place to start is the 1900 census for the state of Connecticut. You
know your grandfather was born in New Haven so you may not need a soundex.
Your grandfather would have been 2 years old in 1900 and with the names of
his siblings you should be able to locate the family.
Good luck....we have all been where you are now.
Welcome to the family.
I am really a beginner at this. My name is Debbie (Sackett) Geel, I've
just started out in my genealogy search an have nothing much. My
grandfather was Charles Lawrence Sackett, he was born 11-19-1898 in New
Haven, Ct. and died May 1971. He had three brothers, Hobart, William and
Charles and we think one sister named Katherine.
His wife's name was Florence C. Riley born in 1904. Together they had 10
children one which died at birth. The children's names are
Charles(deceased) Elizabeth, Jean, Marion, Richard(deceased) Hobart (my
father), Barbara(deceased), Katherine(deceased) and Patricia(deceased). Of
all of these children they can not remember their grandfather's name which
leads me to believe that he may have died when some of them were very
young. They do remeber that their grandmother's name was Mary. So tell me
with so little info to go by where would one start?
I can't remember if I introduced myself or not. I am rather new to the
SACKETT list, but also joined two other lists the same day.
I am the 7th great granddaughter of Sarah Sackett who was born April 9,
1730 (place thought to be CT) and died May 19, 1901. She married Daniel
BARNES on June 25, 1752. Daniel was born Nov. 1725 in New Haven, New
Haven, CT and died April 20, 1809 in New Haven, New Haven, CT. Their
children were Millicent Barnes born March 10, 1753, Lydia Barnes born
Dec. 3, 1754, Solomon Barnes, Feb. 11, 1757, Jemima Barnes, Nov. 8,
1760, Eli H. Barnes born Jan 3, 1762, Samuel Barnes born Feb. 5, 1765,
Daniel Barnes born Dec. 1770.
Look forward to hearing from someone.
Jan Walker in Iowa
Hi Patty! Good work! I'd love to go to the mtg w/ you but it'd be a bit of
a drive. :)
I'm very jealous though. Anyway, does this mean Isabel had children w/
William Bloomfield? Funny she named the children John & Samuel isn't it?? I
didn't know this, am I the only one? These children are 1/2 cousins so we
need to know what happened to them, or at least you do if you are as
obsessed w/ all this as I am.....Crazy Cousin Cindy
>Names of the Puritan Settlers of Connecticut
>R. R. Hinman
>Blumfield, William was freeman in Massachusetts, 1635, and early settler in
>Connecticut. Hew was in the battle against the Pequot Indians in 1637. He was
>in the land division of Hartford 1639. He resided in Hartford south of Little
>River, east of Ralph Keeler's in 1640. He had land at south meadow in
>Hartford in 1642. he had son John baptized in Hartford August 23, 1645 and
>Samuel born July 12, 1647 in Hartford, and other children...He sold a house
>lot in Hartford to John Hale before 1640.
Hi Virginia! Ruth Rawlings & I are also descended from Cyrus & Nancy
Stapleton Sackett, but through their son Samuel. Ruth did a lot of work on
this line years ago & I have reaped the benefits of her work! Ruth can give
you more details but Cyrus is a well documented Patriot as she joined the
DAR under him. Also the History of Greene Co. OH supposedly has a very good
write up of St. Clair's campaign & Cyrus Sackett.
I have nothing on Sarah's children or what happened to her - obviously the
line continued on!! Below is what I have on Cyrus & Nancy's children, I'll
send you my direct line in a seperate e-mail if you like. I'd love to see
your line from Sarah- she did marry Benjamin Hand right? Do I have that
right? Welcome to the "family"!
1 Cyrus Sackett b: 1764 Greenwich, CT d: Jul 13, 1846 Bell Brook, Green Co.,OH
.+Nancy Anne Stapleton b: 1767 Rowan Co.,NC m: Abt. 1792 Bourbon Co., KY d:
Sep 18, 1855 Bell Brook, Green Co.,OH Father: Joseph STAPLETON Mother: Sarah
.2 Joseph Sackett b: Mar 30, 1794 Bourbon Co., KY d: Aft. 1830 res: Mercer
....+Anna Vandolar b: Abt. 1798 m: May 28, 1816 Greene Co.,OH Father: Mother:
.2 Sarah Sackett b: May 24, 1795 Bourbon Co., KY
....+Benjamin Hand b: Abt. 1795 m: Apr 16, 1816 Greene Co.,OH Father: Mother:
.2 Mercy Sackett b: Feb 26, 1797 Bourbon Co., KY
....+Charles Thomas b: Abt. 1795 m: May 8, 1825 Greene Co.,OH Father: Mother:
.2 Reuben Sackett b: May 17, 1798 Bourbon Co., KY
.2 Samuel Sackett b: Dec 5, 1799 Green Co.,OH d:1857 Blue Creek Twp., Adams
....+Isabella Moore b: Abt. 1800 m: May 10, 1821 Montgomery Co.OH d: Aft.
Oct 27, 1836 Blue Creek Twp., Adams Co.,IN Father: Daniel MOORE Mother:
.*2nd Wife of Samuel Sackett:
....+Juliann Heath b: 1813 OH m: Mar 28, 1837 Adams Co.,IN d: Aft. 1870
.2 Anna Sackett b: Oct 8, 1801
....+Merritt Hablit b: Abt. 1800 m: Apr 23, 1822 Greene Co.,OH d: Aft. 1830
res: Green Co., OH Father: Mother:
.2 Cyrus Sackett b: Jan 26, 1803
....+Nancy Jeffries b: Abt. 1803 Father: Mother:
.2 Aner Sackett b: Jan 24, 1807
....+Preston Pogue b: Abt. 1805 m: Nov 13, 1836 Greene Co.,OH Father: Mother:
.2 Alexander Sackett b: Apr 3, 1808 d: Apr 10, 1893
Cindy Torres Owens
1023 Aquia Drive
Stafford, VA 22554-1940
"I'm not stuck, I'm just ancestrally challenged"
This Friday and Saturday I am attending a Genealogy Conference sponsored
jointly by the New England Historic Genealogical Society and the New York
Genealogical and Biographical Society, to be held in Tarrytown, NY. I was
just wondering--Is anyone else on the list attending?
HI Nancy and Everyone:
Sorry to have been so quiet lately. We have been getting out of the City the
past couple of weekends, so I have not been to the library to work on my
"project" for awhile. I will have a Saturday there in another week--and then
I will be out of town for a couple of weeks.
This past weekend, we travelled through a bit of western Connecticut. We
arrived in Hartford in the afternoon--I dropped Stephen and our little boy
James downtown to explore, and I raced to the Connecticut Historical Society
and managed to spend two hours there. If you all remember from your Weygant,
Isabel married William Bloomfield after Simon died, and the family travelled
to Connecticut with Rev. Hooker--William Bloomfield is considered one of the
founders of Hartford. His name is on a monument commemorating the "original
Proprietor's" in the Old Burying Ground. Anyway, there is quite a bit of
information on Wm. Bloomfield--I didn't find anything, so far, that mentions
Isabel. Their house was located in what is now Bushnell Park, the location of
the Capitol. Here is a bit of what I found:
Connecticut Historical Society
Hartford, CT July 19, 1997
History of the First Church in Hartford, 1633-1883
George Leon Walker
Hartford: Brown & Gross, 1884
"Who precisely they were who subscribed at first to the Covenant cannot be
affirmed. If the organizations was as late as Autumn of 1632, which is
probable--the Braintree Company being transferred from Mt. Wallaston to
Newtown in August of that year, and a large reinforcement of men to be
prominent in the church arriving from England in September and the church
edifice being erected doubtless after the Mt. Wollaston migration--the
subscription of the Covenant , it can hardly be doubted , included the names
of William Goodwin and Andrew Warner, shortly to be officers in the new
"William Goodwin, Edward Elmer, John Benjamin, William Lewis, James Olmstead,
Nathaniel Richards, John Talcott, William Wadsworth, and John White, all of
whom but John Benjamin came with the church to Hartford, arrived in Boston in
the Lion, September 16,.1632. Simon Sackett and William Spencer, who also
came to Hartford, were in Newtown before the arrival of the Braintree Company
from Mt. Wollaston in August 1632."
The Original Proprietors (1986 Reprint)
Talcott, Mary Kingsbury
Society of the Descendants of the Founders of Hartford, Inc.
William Blumfield probably came in the "Elizabeth" from Ipswich in Suffolk,
in 1634, aged 30, with wife, Sarah, aged 25, and daughter Sarah, aged 1;
freeman, Massachusetts, September 2, 1635. He fought in the Pequot War, 1637.
an original proprietor at Hartford, his home-lot in 1639-40 was on a portion
of what is now Bushnell Park; in 1641 he was given "the ground whereon the
pond standeth, and to be made up of ground about it fower acres" over and
above his share in the division. (In the map of 1640 the pond is on Centinel
Hill.) He was freed from training March 11, 1657-8. He removed probably about
1650 to New London, and in 1663 to Newtown, Long Island."
Names of the Puritan Settlers of Connecticut
R. R. Hinman
Blumfield, William was freeman in Massachusetts, 1635, and early settler in
Connecticut. Hew was in the battle against the Pequot Indians in 1637. He was
in the land division of Hartford 1639. He resided in Hartford south of Little
River, east of Ralph Keeler's in 1640. He had land at south meadow in
Hartford in 1642. he had son John baptized in Hartford August 23, 1645 and
Samuel born July 12, 1647 in Hartford, and other children...He sold a house
lot in Hartford to John Hale before 1640.
Sorry to the newcomers that I did not stipulate who I was addressing.
Patty is Patty Chrisman, one of our founding members. The last the group had
heard of Patty, she was confronting 9 foot of shelve space of John Riker's
collection. Much of Weygant's book (see Home Page) was based upon Riker. This
week end Patty privately sent a message asking since she had not heard
anything from the list whether AOL was having troubles again. (Even before
becoming one-handed, I tend to compress several issues into one message.)
Nope, Patty, just a slow week end. Everyone is gearing up to surprise us all
with earth shaking info. Right?
So Patty? How are you doing? Hopefully you will get two copies of this
message since I'm cc'ing you to verify that you are receiving SACKETT-L
P.S. Thanks Virginia (Russell) for your intro. I have added it to
the Home Page. Transit Dan (Sackett), I was able to access your new
Home Page just fine. This address is added to the HP too.
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Who is Patty?
I am not sure that this was meant for me.
I descend from Sarah Sackett born 1795, Ky, dau of Cyrus & Nancy Stapleton
Cyrus, son of Rueben & Mercy Finney Sackett: Rueben, son of Jonathan & Ann
Filer Sackett: Jonathan, son of Wiiliam & Hannah Graves Sackett: William,
son of John &
Abigail Hannum: John, son of Simon & Isabell Pearce Sackett.
I am looking for documentation that Cyrus fought with St. Clair's army in
Am also looking for proof John Sacket (1632-1690) owned a tavern in the
Have information of Sacketts & allied families and will share.
HI SACKETT SEARCHERS!
Yes, your Listowner lives despite the broken right arm. My husband
has generosly removed me from my frustrations by traveling every week
end. Sorry to be away so much. Only *THREE* more weeks until the
cast comes off. Anyway, that is if everything heals properly.
We've had several new subscribers! Hopefully you received the Welcome Message.
RootsWeb just changed us to a new server so we can have DIGEST subscriptions
and my original message appears to have been deleted. Oh well, I needed to add
the Home Page address into it anyway. Some day...
I've added the intros that I have received. All others who have not
sent in their intros -- please do. We can help you in your search
easier if we know how you link up.
Patty, I haven't got to my listowner messages yet. You are subscribed.
Ido not know of any problem currently with aol. Please send us a
report of your project progress and I will know you are receiving
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