>From Frank Neher to my Correspondents on the List:
Because of the receipt of a suspected virus from one of my correspondents I
suspect that my computer is sending letters from my address book that have
attachments on them that may be dangerous. So until I am able to remove this
unwanted file from my computer I will no longer send any attachments to my
e-mail. Please do not open any attachments received from me. I am sorry to
bother the subscribers to the list in this manner.
To one and all,
Jim Sellars has just published the latest edition of our e-newsletter, "The Ruddlesforter." You can download the edition at my web site, as follows: http://www.shawhan.com/ruddlesfort.html
Archives Chairperson, RAMSHA
Greetings to all:
Here we grown again! Please welcome new member Ron Jost to the
Ruddell & Martin Stations Historical Association family. Ron resides in Clear
Lake, Iowa and is a descendant of Capt. Charles Gatliff. So... please take
time to send him a Big RAMSHA welcome to his Email address:
A personal welcome from me Ron. If I can be of help just let me know.
Greetings to all:
Here we grow again. I would like to make welcome new member Gil
Bergman to the Ruddell & Martin Stations Historical Association. Gil does not
have an Email address at his time. I recieved his application through snail
mail. He reside in Gladestone, MO. If anyone would like to contact him please
let me know and I will forward to him.
Gil says he is a a descendant of Samuel & Elizabeth Porter taken
captive from Ruddell Station. I have talked to Gil by Phone and he is very
enthusiastic about our association
Don and I have tentatively decided to go ahead with plans to encourage
primitive camping at our June RAMSHA event. So far, I have started
promoting this and we are working on permissions and facilities, etc.
Let me define "primitive camping". This consists of 18th century
tents, gear and clothing. For this first year, I am going to limit
the time frame to what we call "Pre-1840". Next year, we will probably
be limiting it to Pre-1790. If you don't know what that means, but are
interested in participating, let me know.
IF you are interested in camping and don't have the gear, etc,
that's OK! Come and we will find a place for you to camp. It might
be in a non-primitive section, but we will all be hanging out together.
There will be no hookups, but if you think you can get an RV back
to the site, that is fine with me. I am very flexible. Let's see
how things go this year and next year, if we want to continue
it, we will work out some policies.
If you can't camp, but want to hang out with the campers, Come on out!
The reunion date is June 23. That means we will probably have camping
Friday through Sunday. Water, firewood and straw will be provided.
There will be no planned special events for this group, unless I
get someone who is interested in helping coordinate something. Ideas
would include a pot-luck supper, games, local historic site tours,
music, vendors, historic skills demonstrations, church service,
If you are interested, I will be putting more details on this page:
Eventually, there will be directions, policies, contact info, etc.
on this web site.
If you want to participate, email me!
If you want to HELP with this part of our event, email me!
Jon Hagee - jhagee(a)pop.uky.edu
I am looking for data on the above surnames. If you have any data, I'll be
glad to share my information with you.
Gymmie Morrison - DOB 09/19/1937; born in Ruddles Mills; married Tod Laytart,
daughter of John Taylor Morrison (11-05-1911 to 01-22-1997) who was married
to Daugherty Mitcheltree.
I am helping my grandson with his genealogy.
Greetings to all:
Well, here we grow again. Please make welcome new member Helen Marie
to membership in Ruddell & Martin Stations Historical Association. Helen
Woodbridge, Virginia and her Email address is: RINGO1944(a)aol.com. Take tine
to send her a BIG RAMSHA Welcome. She is a descendant of Joseph Honn.
Welcome Helen, to the Ramsha family. If I can be of help or if you have any
questions just let me know.
>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:19:03 -0400
>From: Mary Zollman <boots(a)aye.net>
>Subject: [RUDDLESFORT] Surname Linn/Lynn
> George Ruddell, son of Capt. Isaac and Elizabeth (Bowman) Ruddell,
>married Theodocia Lynn. The Linn/Lynns are in the Index of Dr. Smutz
>book, page 51. Theodocia is on pages 28, 29, xlii of Dr. Smutz book.
> Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
Thanks Mary! I CCed Clare918(a)aol.com since she is not on the list.
[Don - what did you want to do about camping?]
George Ruddell, son of Capt. Isaac and Elizabeth (Bowman) Ruddell,
married Theodocia Lynn. The Linn/Lynns are in the Index of Dr. Smutz
book, page 51. Theodocia is on pages 28, 29, xlii of Dr. Smutz book.
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
>I am so thrilled to find your site. I am a direct descendent of Isaac
>Ruddell. I can bring my ancestry down through Isaac, his son, George; his
>son, John Francis; his son, John Linn; his son, John Barb Ruddell-my
>grandfather. My mother was Elnora Ruddell Douglass. I can account for each
>Ruddell male from John Ruddell in England to Isaac etc., but I cannot find
>anything on John Barb Ruddell. He left my grandmother, Nora Bean Ruddell and
>my family had never heard from him again. Any information that your site has
>of him. Just his burial site would be greatly appreciated and fill in the
>gap in our lineage. Thank you. Clare918(a)aol.com
You need to bring this up to the group. We have several Ruddell descendants.
I will CC them on this so they can contact you! Make sure you see this web site:
P.S. Do you know where the Linn comes from? That is one of my surnames.
You are most Cordially
invited to attend
As a minister
of the Gospel
April 22, 2001
Bring your favorite dish and share with us great
food and fellowship.
Directions: Trapp, KY is located SE of Winchester, KY, off Rt.
89. Turn right on
Trapp-Goff Rd. 1.3 Mile to the
Information: 859 654-3848, 859 744-0018, 859
You have my Personal invitation,
Rt 4, Box 123AAA
Falmouth, KY 41040
Washington City, Jany. 6, 1846
My dear Sir,
I have to thank you for your favor of the 29th ultimo, and to present
you my sincere congratulations on the success of your late tour to the west.
I forthwith delivered your letter to our old friend Mr. Darby, and have the
pleasure of transmitting you herewith his answer, which I know will afford
you much pleasure. He is a perfect enthusiast in every thing pertaining to
pioneer and aboriginal history. I feel sure his future communications will
prove to be of great use to you in the progress of your work – a work which
will embody matter not only of personal and local interest, but of deep and
abiding interest in a natural point of view.
I have recovered the notes of my grandfather’s journal of his captivity
from Martin’s and Ruddles Stations and detention in Canada in the Revolution,
and also two of his commissions as an officer in the Revolution. He had
command of a station, and company of frontier guards, under one of these
commissions, issued by Patrick Henry as Gov. of Virginiain 1777, when he made
the requisition for ammunition of Gen. Jos. Martin, which you found among the
papers of Gen. Martin in possession of his son Col. W.Martin of Smith, when
you were in Tennessee.
My Grandfather wrote his name John Dunkin – not Duncan as some of his
descendants spell the name now. He was the brother in law of Maj. Benj.
Sharpe of Pinckney, Missouri, whose letters are of as much interest to us
all, Sharpe’s my Grand Uncle.
I have no time now to write however – and merely scribble this note to
send with Mr. Darby’s letter – and to write you a happy New Year, and very
possible success in your laudable employments.
You shall soon hear from me at length and, in meantime, I hope to see
you soon in Washington.
L. C. Draper, Esq.
Source: Draper, Lyman Copeland, Draper Manuscript Collection,Historical
Society of Wisconsin, Madison, 2Q (Microfilm Reel 2, Papers “Q,”)
In one of John M. Ruddell's letters he wrote that Stephen Ruddell gave Lewis
Masquerier his papers in the hopes they would be published. Draper wrote
Masquerier in 1869 and this is his reply.
[this is only the portion about Stephen Ruddell]
Draper Manuscript Collection, 4BB, Lewis Masquerier to Lyman Copeland Draper.
Green Point P.O. 17th Ward of Brooklan, N.Y. State
September 8th 1869
I never borrowed any manuscript or other narrative of Mr. Stephen
Ruddell’s life among the Indians.Though I have quite an unconquerable habit
of putting off doing things, yet I have ever been punctual in returning
borrowed articles, and could never have kept on hand a manuscript intended
for publication, or reference.
I was reared about four miles from Ruddell’s Station and have often
heard my parents speak of the capture of the “Ruddell boys” by the Indians.
I was living in Quincy Ill., when Mr. S. Ruddell and family settled some six
miles… in recollecting his captivity by the Indians, I had several
conversations with him about it, but recollect but little of it now. I
recollect his repeating a verse or two of an Indian hymn in which the Chorus
was something like this. “Kasha Mana tou-e-nou.” Also, how that the Indians
had a kind of school of learning as well as us white and civilized race. A
chief or prophet professor of history and oratory, would call together a
class of youths and deliver to them in the order of time a… of their
traditions and history as their memory could retain, and in a… time, require
each one to recite it in oratorical style – correcting any… statement or
defect of delivery. If they were perfect he would then… other portion and
have them recite as before. Thus, they were taught both history and oratory
at the same time. This, in connection of teaching them how to draw
geometrical figures in soft substances (to mark out their hunting and battle
grounds) and made hieroglifical and other forms of objects on skins, &c.
completed and Indian’s education. I recollect his telling of being present at
a council that was held at Greenville, Ohio between the whites and Indians,
where Tecumseh implored the border settlers to settle no further north than
the Ohio river or at least no further than the head waters of the Leida,
Miami, Wabash, &c. and… others in the Lake country. He spoke with such
earnestness and pathos that it was regretted that his speech had not been
written down by some one present, as one of the greatest specimens of Indian
I recollect his telling me in 1833 of one Doctor Drake of Cincinnati,
who had published sketches of Indian life and customs and given some account
of himself. And that Drake was anxious to get a fuller history of his life
among the Indians and would pay him for it. I do not remember that he talked
of writing out his life. I am impressed that he was not literary enough –
thought he, if I mistake not reached occasionally.
I was very full at the time with the scheme of collecting Indian words
– of learning a little of their language, of collecting their traditions,
polity, theology, &c. With this desire, I asked if he would relate the events
of his life and let me write them out in a short sketch. But he seemed to
think that there was money to be made by it, which I thought was very
uncertain, at least by me with no notoriety as a writer.
Most Truly Yours,