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Try and join us tonight for a KY chat at 8 and TN at 10 EST. Adjust time
accordingly for your area. Bring your family line info and queries and meet
some new cousins. Address for chat and todays schedule is below....Lois
Thursday's Chat Schedule: http://huntsville.about.com/mpchat.htm
(subtract 1 hr. for Central; 2 hrs. for Mt.; 3 hours for Pacific time)
7 pm Eastern--RICHARDSON surname
8 pm Eastern--KENTUCKY genealogy (all counties)
9 pm Eastern--SOUTHERN STATES genealogy (all surnames in all Southern States)
10 pm Eastern--Featured State: TENNESSEE genealogy (one time only)
Your question to the Nancy raises many thoughts for investigation. For over
twenty years I've worked in cultural resource management, a subset of
preservation planning. It is understandable that a reconnaisance (surface)
examination of the field found nothing. When we do sites where habitation
was over a brief period of time and the land use is agricultural we find it
necessary to do test bores over each section 'thought' to have a high result
yield. The depth of the holes must reach well beneath the cultivation level.
Does the State Archeaologist have the financial means to do this testing?
How many other station sites have been determined in this way? This is not a
job for non-professional volunteers but perhaps archaeologists living in the
area could volunteer their time as a community sharing project. I do not
believe the site would qualify as a Register site with the National Trust for
Historic Preservation because of its lack of visual remains. The area itself
could earn a heritage designation under landscape architecture which would
include all station sites and any traditional village sites, buffalo wallows
and salt production evidence at river sites. Judith Alef
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From: "Nancy O'Malley" <omalley(a)pop.uky.edu>
Subject: Re: Martin Station
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The exact location of the station is not known. I have been out to look for
it on three different occasions and never saw anything on the exposed
agricultural field just above the cemetery. The folklore is that it was on
the same site as Fairfield (the house) which burned and was replaced by the
small stone house that stands there now. My feeling is that that site is
pretty much destroyed.
At 03:17 AM 9/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
> Mary Clay owner of Fairfield Farm on which the Martin Station site is
>located asked if we know exactly where the Fort sat. I am not sure either.
>Could you advise? Mary just joined our organization. I want to go photograph
>the area and make some sketches.
W.S. Webb Museum of Anthropology
and Office of State Archaeology
211 Lafferty Hall
University of Kentucky
Lexington, Kentucky 40506
----- Original Message -----
From: James Porter <jlporte110(a)worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 12:27 PM
Subject: Samuel Hervey Laughlin diary
> Hi, to anyone interested.
> The Samuel Hervey Laughlin diary is on the Internet.
> Samuel Hervey Laughlin was the Grandson of Capt. John Duncan and Eleanor
Sharp his mother was Sarah Duncan. He was also the Grandson of John
Laughlin and Mary Price, his father was John Laughlin.
> This diary tells about his ancestors, uncles and cousins and many others
that he knew, as well as his immediate family.
> It also gives an account of the capture of the settlers at Ruddle's and
Martin's stations and about the return trip back to Virginia.
> The direct link is http://home.att.net/~jlp1/reports/shlaughlindiary.htm
> This report can be viewed on-line or downloaded into RTF format.
> Also, feel free to check out the rest of my site.
> James L. Porter
> Summerville, SC.
> http://home.att.net/~jlporte110 (my genealogy website)
So, for those of us who missed it the first time, could someone put up the
website for this again?
> Many thanks to cousin James Porter for putting on the web, in such easily
> accessible form, the very valuable and fascinating Laughlin diary. His
> genealogy web page is also just terrific. It contains lots of data I did
> not have about my ancestor, Elizabeth Alexander Duncan (mother of Captain
> John) and her descendants who were involved in the Ruddles Fort capture and
> subsequent captivity. What a story! Sincerely, Ed Stanford
> ==== RUDDLESFORT Mailing List ====
I want to second the praise from my cousin Ed Stanford for the work of our
cousin James Porter. There were so many unexpected items and a great deal
of easy to access family material as well as the wonderful Samuel Laughlin
I was aware of the Diary in the early 1980's and in 1984 was at the
Nashville Archives. There is a micorfilm copy of the original diary there.
I found it and loaded it in the machine just about 10 minutes before
closing. I thought, how wonderful to know it is here. I was surprised to
see, in this transcript, how very long the Diary is and how I left Nashville
in blissful ignorance of what I missed and certainly would not have been
able to access in the microfilm version. I never found a reference there to
the transcript, which would also have been hard to copy in full. But this
web site version is beautifully done and so easy to download.
Thank you so much for this work. In addition, your gedcom has family
material that I did not have. Not only on Duncan, Laughlin and Porter, but
McFerrin as well. My husband and two sons are from Eliza McFerrin, the dau.
of James McFerrin and Jane Campbell Berry. There is material on James'
children and his siblings which I did not have, as well as blanks that I do
have filled in and would be glad to share. My material came largely from
the book about John Berry McFerrin and from some files in the Knoxville
library and in Nashville.
It will take awhile to digest all this. Any of you, however, should read
the part of the Diary which covers the Ruddle Station and afterward
adventures. James Porter has separated the Diary into sections and it is
easy to access the parts of interest. This is a much fuller version than
the Emory Hamilton article.
Diana Williams - Dallas, TX
Many thanks to cousin James Porter for putting on the web, in such easily
accessible form, the very valuable and fascinating Laughlin diary. His
genealogy web page is also just terrific. It contains lots of data I did
not have about my ancestor, Elizabeth Alexander Duncan (mother of Captain
John) and her descendants who were involved in the Ruddles Fort capture and
subsequent captivity. What a story! Sincerely, Ed Stanford
Give info on list please, would like to know too. Thanks all, Rea
----- Original Message -----
From: firebird <pamrooney(a)prodigy.net>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 12:41 PM
> How can I get to the archived Ruddles messages on this board?
> ==== RUDDLESFORT Mailing List ====
Hi, to anyone interested.
The Samuel Hervey Laughlin diary is on the Internet.
Samuel Hervey Laughlin was the Grandson of Capt. John Duncan and Eleanor Sharp his mother was Sarah Duncan. He was also the Grandson of John Laughlin and Mary Price, his father was John Laughlin.
This diary tells about his ancestors, uncles and cousins and many others that he knew, as well as his immediate family.
It also gives an account of the capture of the settlers at Ruddle's and Martin's stations and about the return trip back to Virginia.
The direct link is http://home.att.net/~jlp1/reports/shlaughlindiary.htm
This report can be viewed on-line or downloaded into RTF format.
Also, feel free to check out the rest of my site.
James L. Porter
http://home.att.net/~jlporte110 (my genealogy website)
Greetings to all:
Would you please make welcome to membership in Ramsha the following new
Rebecca Martha Pettifer
52 Douglas Drive
Coal Valley, IL 61240
She is a descendant of Elizabeth Lail Franks who was her GGGG Grandmother.
You are can make her welcome by Email or perhaps a card. Welcome Rebecca!
Greetings to all:
I am very pleased to welcome Mary McClinton Clay to membership in Ruddell
& Martin Stations Historical Association. As many of you know she is the
owner of Fairfield Farm on which the Martin site is located. I would like all
of us to extend her a special welcome for her cooperation with the
organization. In the past two reunion she has extended to us her hospitality
and acted as a host during our visits to Martins Station. What a fine lady.
Please take time right now and sent her an Email or a card of welcome and
thanking her for what she has done for the Association. Her Email and home
Address is as follows:
Mary McClinton Clay
Fairfield Farm, 500 Cynthiana Road
Paris, KY 40361
You're invited to a special chat Thursday night featuring the state of
Everyone is welcome and encouraged to invite others interested in the
KENTUCKY to join us:
8-9 pm Eastern; 7-8 pm Central; 6-7 pm Mt.; 5-6 pm Pacific time
A chat for all SOUTHERN STATES will immediately follow the KENTUCKY chat--you
encouraged to stay for it, too! Bring printouts of your family tree and any
genealogy resources you have to share.
If you can't make the chat, please stop by the forum and post your surname
and research questions:
A transcript of the KENTUCKY chat will be available on Friday at this site:
If you need instructions for the chat room or the forum, let me know and I'll
them to you.
Is it possible to obtain a copy of the video? Perhaps RAMSHA should have a copy
too. Please let me know or who I can get in touch with.
Descendant of Jane Mahan/James Brackenridge
> We had some TV exposure when the local Education TV station in the
> Paris/Cynthiana telecast a video tape made by the lady from the Cynthiana
> Museum of Reunion 2000 and the storytelling of Neeake. We have gained several
> new members from the exposure.
Greetings to all:
I guess everyone noticed I have not been online much in the past two
months. Due to some health problems, I took a couple of months off for rest
and recuperation. R&R to the military people. I am doing much better, but not
totally 100 percent. Without the skipper at the wheel the ship sailed on with
no major problems. During this time the organization continued to grow. We
had some TV exposure when the local Education TV station in the
Paris/Cynthiana telecast a video tape made by the lady from the Cynthiana
Museum of Reunion 2000 and the storytelling of Neeake. We have gained several
new members from the exposure.
I have been informed that a power company would like to stretch a power
line thru the Ruddell property. I will look into this and keep you informed.
Mary Clay is upset about it and ready to do battle.
I am looking at a large stack of membership application and will give you
a few of the names below. More will follow in a couple of days. Please make
welcome the following:
Descendancy: Husband is descendant of John Duncan and his son John Duncan
Descendancy: if I can be of help let me know.
You may remember Jim was the teacher who spoke at out first
reunion. It is good to have him on board. Welcome Jim.
William David Grinstead
Cynthiana, KY 41031
Descend from William David who died in 1774 and is buried around the bend
from Ruddell Fort. My family still lives about a mile from the Fort. Think
this one may have come to us as a result of the TV
Margaret Sellers Harris
Descendancy: John Sellers b. 1750 Joseph Sellers b. 1776, Thomas Johnston
Sellers B. 1842, August Sellers b. 1877, Margaret Louise Sellers B. 1940. My
ancestors moved to Kansas about 1890 from KY.
6810 Brooks Rd.
Harrison, Ohio 45030
Descendancy: Samuel VanHook
Dan does not list an email address so
I have included his home address.
A card might be in order.
Juna R. Konst
descends from Jane Mahan & James Brackenridge
She says, "Attended the June 24, 2000, celebration and enjoyed it
Descendancy: from Francis & Sarah Sharp Berry: John Wesley Berry, Thomas
Nelson Berry, Robert Crittenden Berry, Walter Gorton Berry, Leslie Berry
There are several more so watch your email. Will try to send the rest this
week. be sure to give them a big RAMSHA Welcome.
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