Does anyone know the ancestry of the John Martin involved with Martin's
Fort. I am looking for the family of John Martin who fought at Pleasant
Point with some of his sons. thank you
I want to say how great the web site on Ruddles Fort and Martin's Fort
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I'm so glad you caught my error...you're right, it is John WESLEY Berry.
I'm sending you Pat's e-mail address, but I would appreciate it if you
wouldn't post it on the list until after you have contacted her about any
information. Like I said, she is 82 years old, and in her last email to me
yesterday, she told me she is still "getting used to this email thing"! I
wouldn't want her to feel overwhelmed. Being that she has a Juno email, I'm
not sure if she is connected to the Internet or not. She told me that I was
welcome to share any of her genealogy research with anyone who is interested.
Also, in regards to the Mahan captives...the son of Francis and Sarah
(Sally), also named Francis, married Permelia Mahan, daughter of James Mahan
and Nancy Ann Goodwin in Whitley County, KY.(Francis and Permelia are my
gg-grandparents.) I'm thinking that James Mahan might have been the James
Mahan captive, but I won't know until Mike sends me the Mahan and Sharp
information he has of Pat's.
Anyway, it should be interesting when I get it.
I will keep reading the list and watch for what you come up with.
Toni F. Francisco
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>Great question. Only time--and our joint research--will tell whether
>the names on the captives list are correct. From your information, it
>is likely that "Nelly's" first name was actually Sarah (Sally). Also,
>it is interesting that one of the children's name was "John Westley"
>Berry. I know that during this time it was popular to name the first
>and middle names of male children "John Wesley." Do you think the
>middle name "Westley" might be a corruption of "Wesley"?
>Please do send Ms. Mayo's address. Perhaps she can help us with this
The following notes were on a genealogy sheet and I would like some more info
on TETER. Where can I find DODDRIDGE's Note in this volume etc.
Capt. Samuel Gibson TETER was a soldier in Colonial and Indian Wars, served in
Braddock's Expedition 1755, Forbe's Expedition 1758, and a member of the
Garrison of Fort Pitt (DuQuesne) throughout the Revolutionary War, after the
Fort was captured. Following the war Capt. Teter supervised Construction of
Fort Doddridge and Fort Teter and was Commandant of these Forts in Agusta
County, PA. (Later named Washington County) in Capt. William's Company, 4th
Battalion, PA Militia. See "Doddridge's Notes" PA Archives, 6th Series Chap.
35, Vol.2, Pages 158-159.
Things are coming along nicely on the Captives list. I've added a few
more names to the list and have included some more information on the
various captives pages. Carl Phillips, check out the Lail link, I think
you'll be pleasantly surprised. :-)
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Great question. Only time--and our joint research--will tell whether
the names on the captives list are correct. From your information, it
is likely that "Nelly's" first name was actually Sarah (Sally). Also,
it is interesting that one of the children's name was "John Westley"
Berry. I know that during this time it was popular to name the first
and middle names of male children "John Wesley." Do you think the
middle name "Westley" might be a corruption of "Wesley"?
Please do send Ms. Mayo's address. Perhaps she can help us with this
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I think you're doing great with the list...I do have a question...
I am a descendant of Francis Berry, b, 1754-1755, birthplace unknown, and
Sarah "Sally" Sharp, b. Dauphine County, PA, daughter of John Sharp, both
taken captive at Martin's Station. I have just recently come into
possession of this information, researched over a 30 year period by Patricia
Mayo, a Berry descendant.
On your Captives list page, you have listed Francis Berry and Mrs. Nelly
Sharp Berry and children. Could this name Nelly, as used here, be
incorrect? The name of the two children that were captured with Francis and
Sally are John Westley Berry and Isabelle Berry. Another child, Lewis, was
born in captivity.
I can send you the email address for Ms. Patricia Mayo (she is an 82 year
old lady) and/or the email address for the person she turned all of her
information over to, Mike Schmeer, if you need clarification on this.
Keep up the good work...
Toni F. Francisco
>I have been updating the "Captives List" as I promised earlier. Though
>it is far from done, please let me know if it's close to what you
Looks good Bob!
I would like to request that you footnote the John Conovery:
*Probably John Conway, sometimes spelled Conaway/Conoway.
I'll look that reference up in the court order microfilms and try
to clear it up either way. That is John's exact story though. I'm
pretty sure that is him. I might be able to do that this week.
And link all the Conway's (including that footnote) to:
I would like to see that list indicate the source.
James Baige 1,3
John Benton, wife and a daughter. 3
Frank Berry 1
Francis Berry 2,3
1. Source number 1
2. Source #2
3. Source #3
I'll try to scan my sources so we'll be able to do that.
Jon Hagee wrote:
> I would like to see that list indicate the source.
> Something like:
> James Baige 1,3
> John Benton, wife and a daughter. 3
> Frank Berry 1
> Francis Berry 2,3
> 1. Source number 1
> 2. Source #2
> 3. Source #3
> I'll try to scan my sources so we'll be able to do that.
> Jon Hagee
I'm not sure what you mean about the source numbers. I think I
understand placing the source numbers beside the names, but I don't
follow what you're alluding to in your reference to "source numbers"
below. I'm just not following your logic.
My idea has been simply to create a seperate page for each captive or
family and place all available information--including web links--on that
page. I always include the source reference with the information.
Help me on this.
>I'm a follower not a leader, but I am more than willing to share
>any information I have with anyone interested. What lists are
>you speaking of compiling?
There are different historic lists of people at Ruddle's
and Martin's Stations when they were captured. We are trying to
build a comprehensive listing with as many details on each family
or individual as possible.
On another subject: Maybe we can get Bob and/or Nancy to arrange
a group visit to the Ruddles Station site. I would be willing to
take a day off from work to meet some of you and visit the site!
Jon Hagee - Lexington, KY
Is there any information on this Mr and Mrs McGuire? Even as little as
Anything would be appreciated.
I have found a website which contains Daniel Boon's writings on the wars
of Kentucky . He talks about the events of 1778 and 1780 and certainly
offers a prospective from a fellow pioneer. You may want to consider
including for a reading reference, website:
Hi to all!
I am new to your list and here to discover any linkage between my 3G
Grandmother, Catherine Bowman Coburn (1774-1866) and the children of
George Bowman and Mary Eliizabeth Hite. She has 'appeared' in Nova
Scotia, Canada about 1795 and so far I have found no traces of anyone
else in her family up there. To make a long story very short, the NS
death register gives her birthplace as Falmouth, no state or province,
and her daughter, my 2G stated on two census documents that her mother
was born in PA and so reads her death certificate.
After almost exhausting my resources in NS I am starting on the
perimeter of PA. We know that almost every state has at least one
Falmouth but I was particularly taken when I read about Falmouth being
on route to Ruddles Fort.
In the past few days I have been searching the net for other peoples
knowledge of this Bowman family. We know what we can find out there,
and my first downloaded file certainly fell into that category. This
morning I have been searching again and have found a very large file
which I have downloaded and have only done an edit pass on for the type
and quality of information. By all appearances it has great potential.
I can see that the data has been submitted to Ancestral Files at LDS, in
some cases years ago. That information is to come yet. What I have
found of interest is the following:
Jacob Bowman b 02Jan1733 in Frederick County VA
died: 20 June 1780
He is the first born child of George and Mary Elizabeth Bowman
His sister Elizabeth Bowman Ruddles being the fourth child in order.
Appears we have twins Emma Maria and Mary b 19 Nov 1735, #2 and 3
Perhaps I have missed something in all the reading references you have
provided but I did not remember seeing a reference to her brother
Jacob. Jacob's wife was Grizel(Grace) Greenlee as far as I can tell at
Were they at the fort that day? Can anyone enlighten me on this Jacob
and his wife? Children?
Please let me know your interests in this subject as well.
Thanks for your time.......
Regards to all,
I loved the "Ruddle's and Martin's Fort" web page. I clicked on the
first title and received 45 pages of information, which I have not seen
put together anywhere else. I found out that my daughter-in-law's
SELLERS family were captives from the Forts along with my RUDDELL family
the. I had no idea of that before. Now I need to read all the rest of
Thanks to everyone for working on this list,
Mary (Ruddell) Zollman
As per your suggestions, I have created a web page listing all the known
(or suspected) captives of Ruddle's and Martin's forts. The list was
compiled from Nancy O'Malley's, Maud Lafferty's, and Jon Hagee's lists.
Nancy's list may be found in "Stockading Up," p. 243, Maud Lafferty's
"The Destruction of Ruddle's and Martin's Forts During the Revolutionary
War," pp. 320-323, and John Hagee's web site "Ruddle's Station,
Please check the page out and offer your suggestions. To access the web
page, go to my Ruddle's and Martin's Forts page at
and scroll down to "List of Captives: Ruddle's and Martin's Forts" and
click on the link.
Ruddle's Fort Researchers,
Here are a few interesting items I recently found in the library
relating to Ruddle's Fort. I have much more that I recently found on my
latest trip to the library. More later.
The Virginia Genealogist, Vol 27, No. 4.
Local Notices From the Virginia Gazette, Richmond, 1783. pg 296-297
May 31, 1783 - Isaac Ruddell advertises that in 1780 he had the command
of a fort or station in Kentucky which on 24 June was attacked by Capt.
Bird with 800 Indians, 150 Canadians and 50 british, with two pieces of
cannon and two howitz. As the works were not proof against cannon, they
were obliged to capitulate at two o'clock in the afternoon. The articles
of capitulation were that they should continue in the fort that night,
march out in the morning with their best clothes, leave the fort with
the plunder to the Indians and that they and their families should be
safely conducted to Canada. But as soon as they laid down their arms the
Indians rushed in, stripped and tied them and murdered a man and two
women on the spot, besides several others they murdered on the way to
the towns. The families were all divided; his wife and children were
carried off by the Indians and one of them burnt. On 3 August he was
brought to Detroit. The Commandant at Detroit expressed much uneasiness
at the capitulation being broke and through his influence his wife, four
of his children and some other prisoners were recovered from the
Indians. The Comandant permitted him to live on an island where he
raised a quantity of corn, which enabled him to provide for some of is
felow prisoners the means necessary for them to escape. In 1782 he, and
a number of other prisoners, was permitted to return to Virginia by way
of Canada. Soon after his arrival he was accused by some of his fellow
prisoners with being inimical to the cause in which he had suffered so
much, charged with treason and tried before the Court of Frederick
County, by whom he was acquitted.
Edward M'Guire certifies that at a Court held in Frederick County
21 Jan. 1783 for the examination of Isaac Ruddall on suspician of having
lately committed treasonable practices against the United States of
America (present Edward M'Guire, Thomas Throckmorton, James G. Dowdall,
Joseph Langaire, Elisha Wiliams and George Noble, Gent., Justices), the
prisoner said he was not guilty, witneses were examined for and against
him. It is in the opinion of the Court he is no wise guilty thereof.
Edward M'Guire and James G. Dowdall give certificate that the
conduct of Captain Isaac Ruddell has been such as became a citizen and a
friend of his country.
June 14, 1783 - Queries for the consideration of Isaac Ruddell: Was it
consistant with the character of a whig officer and a man recently
visited with a heavy calamity to be found carousing with the enemy on
their return and drinking the King of England's health and sucsess to
his arms? Why did you not take your trial in the county where you
resided at the beginning of the revolution? . . . . Those whigs who knew
you during your residence in Canada will still believe you, together
with your compeer, Sam Porter, to be viler sort of men than the common
class of tories; and however the late treaty of peace may save you from
capital punishment, yet with our virtuous officers and every good man,
you will remain an object of contempt.
Petitions of the Early Inhabitants of Kentucky to the General Assembly
of Virginia 1769 to 1792, by James Rood Robertson, M.A.Ph.D, 1914, pg
TO THE HONOURABLE THE SPEAKER AND GENTLEMEN OF THE HOUSE OF DELAGATES
The petition of Isaac Ruddle Humbly sheweth, that your petitioner
In the year 1779 was appointed to the Command of a Compy for the
Reduction of the Illinois under the then Colo. Clark, the he raisd a
Company on Holstain and supplied them with the necessary arms provision
Bags and pack Horses, for the falls of Ohio to wich place he Marchd
them; that in the beginning of March 1780 your petitioner with His
Company was ordered on Duty to a frontier station on Licking By John
Bowman the then County Lieutenant of Kentucky County, that your
petitioner with His Company was on the 24th of June 1780 Captured by a
party of british and Indians under the Command of Capt Bird from
Detroit, to which place they were taken and their remained in Captivity
till the 3d Nov. 1782. when He returnd - to the District of Kenty where
He Has since Resided, that after the return of your petitioner to the
District of Kentucky He made out a pay role for the time of His last
Services and Captivity for which He recd L497..0..0 as will appear
reference thereto being Had, that your petitioner on His return also
made application to the Commissioners for setling The western Claims for
the Liquidation of His Accounts for His first Services, that they Did
settle His account and that their appeard to be Due to your Petitione
the sum of L442..10..03-5 which will more fully appear by the Inclosd
Copy of their proceedings that your petitioner also furnishd for the
service of the District two Horses which were Valued at L65 which will
more fully appear by the Inclosd affidivite of Colo Bowman that at the
time of settlement some Evil Disposd person informed the Commissioners
that your petitioner while a prisoner was Enimical to the united States
they then gave it as their Oppinion that no Certificate should Issue
without Orders from Govornment that prior to those proceeding your
petitioner on His way from Detroit Stood trial in the County Court of
Fredrick for the above Crime where all His accusers were, and was
accquited, which will appear by the Inclosd. proceedings and Certificate
which your petitioner could not procure till the Commissioners had rose
and there Powers Had Expird your petitioner therefore prays that His
accounts may be fully and fairly Settled and that your Honourable body
will Direct your Auditors of public accounts to Issue warrants for the
principal and Interest due thereon in such manner as you in your wisdom
shall think fit and your petitioner as in Duty bound shall ever pray.
Endorsement on back of petition: October 26th 1791 - Refd. to Claims -
rejected - repd. 9th qre. 1791 (?) Voucher delivered to Mr. Waller.
Draper Manuscript Collection 8CC25
>From Memorandum Book in hand writing of
Capt. John Dunkin - Captured at
Ruddell's Station - Copied from
the original in possesion
of his grandson, Col. S. H. Laughlin, Recorder
of the General Land Office
Aug. 22d 1846
"June 26th 1780, I was taken from Licking Creek in Kentucky County By
Capt. Henry Bird of the 8th Regt., of his Majestie's forces in
conjunction with about eight hundred Indians of different Nations - Viz:
Mingoes, delawares, Shawnees, Hurins, Ottaways, 'Taways and Chi[[eways,
we marched from our village the 27th, being in number 129, men, women,
and children. We marched down Licking about 50 miles to the Ohio - and
from thence up the Big Miami river about 170 miles to the Standing
Stone, and from thence up said river to Laramies store ["Lanaway's"] 14
miles on the head of the Miami; and from thence across by land 18 miles
to the Landing on the river Glaise - and from thence down said river
passing a Taway vil;age and to the mouth of said river about 80 miles at
a small village of Miami Indians on the river Miami; from thence down
said river about 40 miles to an Indian Village called Rose de Boo - and
from thence down said river about 18 miles to Lake Erie, where we went
on board the Hope, mounted six 6 pounders, capt. Graves commander, and
so across the said Lake to the mouth of Detroit river and 18 miles up
the same to the fort and town of detroit, which place we arrived at the
4th of August 1780 - Where we were kept until the 24th, when 33 of us
were put on board the Gage, Capt. [Brincit?] commander, mounted 8 guns,
and from thence to Fort Erie - and thence in battoes, 18 miles down the
river Niagra to Fort Slusher, at the head of the great fall - from
thence in waggons 9 miles, where we again went in battoes down said
river to Fort Niagra at the mouth of said river, on the 29th; and on the
5th of Sept. we were again put on board the Ontario, Capt Cowan
commander, and so accross the Lake Ontario to Carlton Island on the 8th,
and on the 10th we set off down the river St. Lawrence in battoes
passing Swegoche and down the long sac and into Sandijest lake and so
down Ripids into Grand River and through a small lake and so to Lasheen.
from thence by land 9 miles to Monteal on the 14th Sept. 1780 - and on
the 17th we were sent into Grant's island and remained there until the
25th October, when we were again taken back into Montreal and billetted
in St. Lawrences suburbs. My son left Montreal August 25th 1781: I was
put into confinement in the Long gaol Sept. 1st, and was receivedfrom
thence to the provost Oct. 7th and there remained in close confinement
until the 17th day, when I was permitted to go and live with my family
with the privilage of walking the town and sububs."
Draper Manuscript Collection 8CC24
Nicholas County, Ky, August 27th 1845
Mr. draper Dear Sir,
After my best respects to you I have only to say I have bin sloe in
answering yours of the 12th of July last, requesting me to give you some
information about the birth, death, and life of Capt. Isaac Ruddell who
ware taken prisner and all his family at Ruddell Station and other
partukulars, I am glad that I was able to give you such information as
well in able you to get the hole history, I am a connection Isaac was a
brother to my grandfather, I landed at Isaac Ruddell at 8 years old in
the year 1798 as well as I can recolect, then it was that Stephen and
Abram Ruddell come home from the indians the had been prisners for 17
years as I always understood and as Stephen and Abraham Ruddell are yet
a living and Stephen a preacher of the gospel, and a man of considerable
information and in reach of your letter both found the way home by old
antoney wane at the time he held his treaty at greenville in the state
of Ohio where Harrison held his with the Indians, they both ware in the
late war - Abraham was taken in Winchesters defeat and Stephen was
interpertor for the Shawnees, Tecumseh and the proffet ware there
adopted brothers, Stephen saved one half of the Shawnees from going with
Tecumseh; to join the British. Stephen lives in Adams county, on the
Mississippi river about 8 mills above yuncy, if the county is not devid
or changed in the state of Illinois and Abraham lives on white river
If you should not be fertunate enough to hear from Steph Ruddell
who I think will be able to give you a true history of all; you wish to
no; I think Capt. Hinkston was in the station at the time Byrd took it,
Hinkston was a great Indian warer and was taken prisner and some of his
relatives live in or near cynthiana, Harrison county, Ky; if you should
fail as I stated wright back to me I will get the history of all about
them as I think I can get by a little time and trouble yours and c.
Draper Manuscipt Collection 8CC23
>From Gov. Jere. Morrow: July 22d 43
Taking of Riddles Station 1780
Col. Bird and his Indian Allies appeared before the station - demanded a
surrender saying they had cannon. Riddle and those with him disbelieving
it - Would not listen to any such proposition. The fire opened upon the
little fortress - "the pickets were cut down like corn stalks" said
Governor Morrow. Seeing the folly of attempting to maintain so unequal a
contest, when convinced so effectually of the presence of cannon -
raised the white flag, and entered into written terms of capitulation
with Bird. The women and children were to be protected and taken to the
nearest station and there safely delivered. The men were to be
prisoners, with the privilege of taking each his gun, and a pack of such
articles as they pleased, and this unexamined - and the fort then
delivered up to Bird and the Indians. These were the terms: The Indians
entered the fort and comenced a terrible slaughter - Governor Morrow
thinks some 20 were tomahawked in cold blood - the women and children,
instead of being taken to the neighboring station agreed upon, were
marched off as prisoners. Riddle escaped the slaughter - went and
remonstrated with Bird, who expressed and seemed to feel regret that he
had no control over the Indians. Hurried down Licking, crossed the Ohio,
and then feeling safe, camped up Mill Creek a short distance, hunted and
rested themselves, and returned to their towns at leisure. While camped
on Mill Creek, Mrs. Riddle received in some way a severe cut across her
forehead from an Indian's knife - sent her little son with her, then
about 8 years old, to get some ginson root for her - and had not proceed
far when some Indian, finding out his errand whipped him for it. He was
then out of sight of his mother - and very soon hearing the report of a
rifle near where he left her, and seeing no more, he painfully suspected
that his dear mother was killed - for they had already tomahawked such
of the prisoners as lagged by the way before crossing the Ohio. Young as
he was, the little lad knew something of the Indians reared as had been
chiefly among them, and in constant fear and dread of them. He was
taken to Piqua on the Big Miami - and there had his ears stilled around
the run, washed from head to foot, and formerly adopted into the nation.
The last of the ceremony was pass through a double row of Indians,
squaws and children - not to run the gaunlet - when a squaw took him by
the arm and led him out of the line. It was soon explained to him, that
she was a widow and had a boy about his own age, and proposed becoming
his mother. Young Riddle said he wanted to go and live with his own
mother if she were living. The squaw then suggested to him, how he would
like to live with her if his natural mother were not alive. Still he
held off giving consent. Then she changed the mode of inquiry, and asked
if he wouldn't like to live with her as well as with any of the squaws
he saw there. Yes, was the reply, she took him home, treated him kindly,
grew up and hunted - the then boy, her own son, dying in the mean time -
with the meat he furnished, and the little field of corn they made,
supplied their wants. He grew to manhood, and became contented; and when
the armies of the white subsequently invaded the Indian country he felt,
concientiously felt the wrong and inquiry - sided very naturally with
the Indians in opposing the whites. Was interpreter for the Shawnees at
Waynes Treaty - there for the first time learned that his mother was
living - proposed to his Indian mother to go to Kentucky and live with
his own mother - his Indian mother didn't like the idea - then, having
an affection for her, he proposed taking her along with him and living
with him among the whites. This she declined - consented that she should
go and see his mother - knowing how much more his natural mother must
feel for him, when his adopted one could scarcely hear to part with him
sufficiently long for even that. He went, spent several weeks there,
began to think after all the white lived best - and moreover, he had
always made up his mind not to mary among the Indians, and now thought
pleasant it would be to get himself a white wife and settle down.
Returned to the Shawnees country - told his Indian mother of his
determination - assisted in removing her to the westward to some
friends, she died on the way. Riddle returned to Kentucky somewhere on
Licking, was frequently engaged as interpreter by government during the
war of 1812, in councils with the Shawnee Indians, all of whom save, 30
under Tecumseh's influence, sided with the United Sates. Was selected to
a head a party of them taken into service. Subsequently became a "new
light" preacher - and is probably yet living in Kentucky - His father
was taken to Detroit - there complained of the breaking of the
capitulation - Bird was tried, but acquitted on the ground that he could
not control the Indians. What a evement is that to engage such allies! -
N.B. These facts were communicated to Governor Morrow by Riddle himself,
when Gov. Morrow with governors Meigs and Wirthinton held a council to
disuade the Indians from taking part in the war.
Draper Manuscript Collection 8CC22 - This is from F. Parkman Jr.'s
letter to Lyman C. Draper dated March 14, 1846. It mentioned that the
information was from Gov. Cass' discourse.
Capt. Bird's Expedition - Capture of
Ruddell's and Martin's Stations - June 1780.
Gov. Cass' Account
"Two expeditions were undertaken more unfortunate then the marauding
enterprises to which we have alluded. One of these was led by Capt. Byrd
whose force was composed of a detachment of regulars, some militia, and
a large body of Indians. They left here (Detroit) in boats, well
provided with provisions, and munitions of war. They ascended the Maumee
and descended the Miami to the Ohio. The first object of the expedition
was an attack on Louisville but the unusually wet season, and consequent
high state of the water, induced him to ascend the Licking, and strike
at the forts in the interior of Kentucky. With this view, he appeared
suddenly before Ruddle's Station, and as he was supplied with cannon,
and led a well appointed force, all hope of resistance was desperate,
and the garrison surrendered upon a promise of safety and protection
from the Indians. It is needless to add that the promise was utterly
disregarded. Byrd proceeded a few miles father, and captured another
small stockade, called Martin's Station. His progress spread
[consteruation?] through the country, and efforts were made to collect a
force to oppose him. Before this could be organized, he suddenly
abandoned his enterprise, and precipitably withdrew. His motives for
this procedure are unknown. Whatever they may have been, Kentucky was
relieved from the most imminant danger to which she has ever been
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I've been communicating with an archaeologist who is interested
in having a dig at Ruddles Station. Her name is Nancy O'Malley
and she is one that has done extensive research on Ruddles over
the years. She has done work on several of the local forts and
has a book out called "Stockading Up" (I think).
If you didn't know, Ruddles is one of the forts that the location
is well known. I've got a map on my web site.
Anyway, I'm inviting her to be on the List and wanted you all
to know who she is and hopefully we can give her some support.
Nancy and I both live in the Lexington, KY area.
I would like to see one of us take on the project of compiling the
different lists into one. I will offer my lists as a starter. I will
also be glad to check my resources to see if they have any new names
or different source than what you have. On my web page, I started to
take 2 or 3 sources and compile them, but got involved in other
projects and never really finished to my satisfaction. I know some
other folks have done the same, let's work together!
BTW, I'm descended from the Conways; John Conway Sr, Elizabeth Bridgewater
Conway, John Conway Jr, Annie Sutton Conway, Joseph, Sarah/Sally, etc.
As a newcomer, I found in reading through your roots file last night
that the current separation was very helpful but a further refinement,
in whatever form it takes, would be wonderful. It seems too that one
might be more inclined to contribute toward the individuals, then the
event itself, bringing much more enrichment to all of us. I know for
myself that if I find my 3G grandmother was a captive or somehow
related, I want to learn what I can about each and everyone that was
there; it provides an index.
Just a note to tell you about my recent visit to the actual site of
Ruddle's Fort. The site is located about a mile off the old Lair road
just north of the village of Lair, Kentucky. James Sellers (a 6g nephew
of John Sellers, lieutenant to Captain John Hinkson, my 5g grandfather)
and I rode out to the site in the back of a pickup truck. The site is
now a farmer's field and there is nothing remaining of the the fort
itself except for a stone marker placed there by a Lair descendant.
James and I walked the terrain and visualized from where the British
approached the fort and where the cannon may have been placed. We could
easily imagine the wet conditions which allowed the British and Indians
to silently surround the small outpost and could almost hear the sounds
of cannon and gun fire as they poured down upon the defenders.
Here we stood again, two men of the blood lines of our ancestral
comrades-in-arms; both serving in the military, now as then. It left us
with a rather eerie feeling. I was a bit amused when James, getting
ready to leave for other parts of the country later that evening said,
"I'll report my findings when I return to Japan" (where he is
stationed). I had a strong sense of deja vu in that moment. Does blood
run so deep that ancestral memories bubble to the surface? Who knows,
but I surely had to smile at the feeling.