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He is found as a policeman at Station 5 in Providence 1882+ and listed as living at 47 Governor St. 1881-1895 and in 1899 listed at 49 Governor and wife Mary A. milliner listed.
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Possible siting in 1850 census. NOTE: Dtr Hanora aka Nora
1860 United States Federal Census
about James Osullivan
Name: James Osullivan
Age in 1860: 29
Birth Year: abt 1831
Birthplace: Ireland
Home in 1860: Providence Ward 3, Providence, Rhode Island
Gender: Male
Post Office: Providence
Value of real estate:
Household Members:
Name Age
James Osullivan 29
Mary Osullivan 38
James Osullivan 6
Mary Ann Osullivan 5
Hanora Osullivan 2
John Osullivan 1.12
Jeremiah Osullivan 23
Catharine Oniel 23
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Providence Ward 3, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll: M653_1208; Page: 235; Image: 44.
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Here he is in 1880 as a widower.appears to have two dtrs. with him.
1880 United States Federal Census
about James O'Sullivan
Name: James O'Sullivan
Home in 1880: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Father's birthplace: Ireland
Mother's birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Police Officer
Marital Status: Widower
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:
Blind:
Deaf and dumb:
Otherwise disabled:
Idiotic or insane:
View Image
Household Members:
Name Age
James O'Sullivan 46
Mary O'Sullivan 25
Nora O'Sullivan 21
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Providence, Providence, Rhode Island; Roll: T9_1211; Family History Film: 1255211; Page: 253.4000; .
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Surnames: O'Sullivan Horan
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Looking for information on James O'Sullivan who came to the U.S. about 1851. He was a Providence police officer in the late 1800s.
He married Mary Horan on December 27, 1882 and had 2 or 3 children with her. Possibly a second marriage.
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from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907"
prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a
souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution
printed in 1907
"The Journeymen" (part 164)
p. LXXV.
"Initiated Into Providence Union on Dates Named:
JAMES T. RAFFERTY, March 26, 1893. Killed on railroad near Pittsburg,
Pa.; learned trade on Dispatch and Journal.
GEORGE H. RAMSDEN, Dec. 3, 1884. In New York city.
CHARLES RATTHIE, July 25, 1886.
IRA G. RAWSON, December, 1892.
JOHN C. RAWSON, May 9, 1868.
N. L. REEVES, May 9, 1868.
JOHN F. REILLY, Nov. 8, 1862.
NICHOLAS J. REILLY, July 26, 1903.
PATRICK REILLY (stereotyper), Aug. 25, 1899. Died in this city.
WILLIAM H. REILLY, Jan. 25, 1885.
FRANCIS W. RHODES, Dec. 9, 1865.
B. J. RING, April 5, 1888. In Colorado.
WILLIAM RILEY, Feb. 25, 1900.
GEORGE J. F. ROBINSON, Dec. 11, 1869.
THOMAS C. ROBINSON, April 5, 1888.
JOHN ROGERS (b), Jan. 29, 1893.
PETER RONAN, May 4, 1857.
EDWIN W. ROPER, May 27, 1883.
R. W. ROXBURGH, Oct. 29, 1887; also March 31, 1901.
WILLIAM H. RUSH, July 5, 1885. Learned trade on Evening Telegram.
MARTIN RYAN, Oct. 14, 1864."
continued in part 165.
Now digitizing those would be great and I would even be willing to help with
that project.
A lot of what I need though is dated prior to 1983.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa Lepore" <llepore(a)comcast.net>
To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Who can get a RI Library card?
>I just wanted to clarify that a non-resident
> can get a card at the PPL, but unfortunately
> it is not free.
>
> The newspaper access is great, but it doesn't
> help if you need things before 1983.
>
> I never did get a card at Woonsocket - same
> reason - I couldn't justify the fee.
>
> I think it would be grand if someone had a
> plan to digitize the projo back to the beginning,
> and all the city directories too!
>
> Lisa
> llepore(a)comcast.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Seamus" <nanonine(a)roadrunner.com>
>
>
> |I did look at it Lisa, but I guess I couldn't justify the amount of the
> fee
> | for the few things I would need right now. I definitely will consider it
> in
> | the future when I have a longer list. I do appreciate your
> thoughtfulness
> | though for pointing that option out. Thanks once again.
> |
> | Nancy
>
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I just wanted to clarify that a non-resident
can get a card at the PPL, but unfortunately
it is not free.
The newspaper access is great, but it doesn't
help if you need things before 1983.
I never did get a card at Woonsocket - same
reason - I couldn't justify the fee.
I think it would be grand if someone had a
plan to digitize the projo back to the beginning,
and all the city directories too!
Lisa
llepore(a)comcast.net
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From: "Seamus" <nanonine(a)roadrunner.com>
|I did look at it Lisa, but I guess I couldn't justify the amount of the fee
| for the few things I would need right now. I definitely will consider it
in
| the future when I have a longer list. I do appreciate your thoughtfulness
| though for pointing that option out. Thanks once again.
|
| Nancy
beth,
any chance you have the earlier versions or where I can find them. I didn't
get any parts prior to # 90 and I' looking for references to Hall and
Clayton.
Thanks
Roberta Hall
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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:05 AM
Subject: [RI] Printers and Printing in Providence (part 162)
> from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907"
> prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a
> souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution
> printed in 1907
>
> "The Journeymen" (part 162)
> p. LXXIV.
>
> "THOMAS M. ROUNDS - Died Providence April 22, 1892, in the 74th year
> of his age; he learned printing in the office of Knowles & Vose, and
> was a journeyman on the Journal in 1845 - '47. Member of Common
> Council of the city of Providence from the Fourth Ward 1867 to 1869
> and in 1876; from the Sixth Ward 1877 to 1882 and in 1886 to 1888.
>
> ANGELO RUFFO - Born Naples, Italy, April 13, 1864; learned printing
> in New York city, beginning in 1896; published the Harlem Courier, an
> Italian weekly paper, in New York for nine years; also in the same
> city L'Araldo Italiano, daily; worked in Providence on l'Eco;
> admitted to Providence Union in January, 1906; now a master printer
> in this city.
>
> ANNA RUSHLOW (Miss) - Born 1877; learned printing at Phillip &
> Casey's, Rouse's Point, N. Y., beginning in 1891; initiated into
> Lowell Union, No. 310; admitted to Providence Union by card Feb. 7, 1904.
>
> THOMAS RUSHTON - Born Coventry, England, May 19, 1832. When a boy of
> 9, he came to New York with his father, where they remained a year.
> He distinctly remembered seeing President Tyler and the ceremonies
> attending the introduction of the Croton water into New York.
> Returning to England, at the age of 14, he began to learn printing.
> At the end of seven years he became a journeyman and also a freeman
> of his native city. That is to say, anyone who has served seven years
> at a trade, appearing before the mayor of the city and having the
> fact certified to by his employer, is made a freeman of the city with
> certain special privileges. Thus at the time of his death Mr. Rushton
> was nearly eligible to a pension of $1.50 a week. Working at his
> trade for a time in England, he again came to America, this time
> settling in Providence in 1863, where he worked on the Press until
> 1868, when he returned to the old country. After a year's absence he
> returned to Providence, working on the Press again, and later on the
> Star. In 1872 he removed to Boston, finding employment on the Globe.
> In 1881 he took a vacation of six months, travelling in England and
> on the continent. He then returned to his work on the Globe, and the
> rest of his life was uneventful. In 1898 his health failed
> perceptibly, and after a short illness he passed away on Nov. 19,
> 1900, at the age of 68 years and 6 months. He left a widow and two
> children. One of them, Thomas Rushton, is employed on the Globe; the
> other is the wife of R. W. Townsend, also an employe of the Globe.
> While in Providence Mr. Rushton was a frequent contributor in prose
> and verse to the Evening Press of that city.
>
> JAMES H. RUSSELL - Born Providence Jan. 14, 1859; learned printing at
> office of Franklin Printing Co., beginning in 1876; was foreman of
> the Telegram until the strike in 1889; foreman of the Pawtucket Times
> for five years; worked several years on the Weekly Visitor; now
> assistant foreman of Worcester Telegram. He was initiated into
> Providence Union April 8, 1883, and has held many important offices
> in it, including that of I. T. U. delegate in 1888."
>
> continued in part 163.
>
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from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907"
prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a
souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution
printed in 1907
"The Journeymen" (part 163)
pp. LXXIV - LXXV.
"JOHN F. RUSSELL - Born Providence Aug. 25, 1886; learned printing on
Evening Bulletin, beginning March 10, 1902; initiated into Providence
Union at the March meeting, 1906; now employed on Evening Bulletin.
E. J. RYAN - Born Hartford, Conn., July 10, 1845; learned printing in
that city; worked in Providence in 1867; was bankman of the Hartford
Post in 1905.
GEORGE F. RYAN - Born New York city in 1846; began to work at
printing in Warren, R. I.; initiated into Providence Typographical
Union Nov. 11, 1865; since 1868 has been in the employ of the Rumford
Chemical Works as foreman of its printing department and has
superintended its growth from the beginning. It is now probably one
of the largest private printing plants in this country.
JAMES S. RYAN (Big Injun) - Born Vergennes, Vt., Feb. 28, 1833;
learned printing in the office of the Vergennes Vermonter, beginning
Nov. 9, 1848; initiated into Providence Union Oct. 10, 1868; worked
in this city from that date to 1876 at various times; was located in
Hartford, Conn., in 1904. Mr. Ryan writes: 'Can't think of any
reminiscences; all old stories, some true and some lies, but told so
often I most belive some of them myself.'
JOHN CROIL RYAN - Died Boston, May 7, 1901, aged 53 years. He was
born in Montreal, where he learned printing. He came to Providence,
worked on the Journal, and was a member of No. 33 previous to 1877;
later he worked on the Star and Press and for a time at Gorham's
Silver Works; he had worked some years in Boston just previous to his death.
MARVIN M. RYAN - Was drowned at Bullock's Point Sunday, Aug. 16,
1874. He was of a sailing party of three, and about 5:30 p.m. went
swimming alone. He swam under water a short distance, came up and
struck out for the boat. As he neared it, it was noticed that he was
looking very badly in the face, and one of his companions asked him
if he was tired, reached out an oar for him to take hold of. The oar
touched his shoulder, when he pushed it away with his hand, and,
turning around as if to swim out again, he sank and did not come up.
His companions made no attempt to recover the body, but brought his
clothing to the Third Police Station in this city and reported the
fatality. The body was found Aug. 19 and brought to Providence by
friends, who attended to the burial. Mr. Ryan was born in
Charlestown, Mass., in 1821. He was initiated into Providence Union
April 18, 1857. He possessed abilities as a compiler of almanacs and
as a writer that made him very useful outside the lines of his trade.
In this city he worked chiefly at A. Crawford Greene's. He served in
a Massachusetts regiment in the Civil war.
WILLIAM H. RYAN - Born East Providence Sept. 6, 1876; learned
printing with Marion Printing Co., beginning Oct. 1, 1891; initiated
into Providence Union Dec. 29, 1901.
VICTOR L. RYBERG - Born Providence Dec. 11, 1886; learned printing
with the Standard Printing Co., beginning in 1902; joined effort for
eight-hour day in April, 1906; now located in Providence."
continued in part 164.
from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907"
prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a
souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution
printed in 1907
"The Journeymen" (part 162)
p. LXXIV.
"THOMAS M. ROUNDS - Died Providence April 22, 1892, in the 74th year
of his age; he learned printing in the office of Knowles & Vose, and
was a journeyman on the Journal in 1845 - '47. Member of Common
Council of the city of Providence from the Fourth Ward 1867 to 1869
and in 1876; from the Sixth Ward 1877 to 1882 and in 1886 to 1888.
ANGELO RUFFO - Born Naples, Italy, April 13, 1864; learned printing
in New York city, beginning in 1896; published the Harlem Courier, an
Italian weekly paper, in New York for nine years; also in the same
city L'Araldo Italiano, daily; worked in Providence on l'Eco;
admitted to Providence Union in January, 1906; now a master printer
in this city.
ANNA RUSHLOW (Miss) - Born 1877; learned printing at Phillip &
Casey's, Rouse's Point, N. Y., beginning in 1891; initiated into
Lowell Union, No. 310; admitted to Providence Union by card Feb. 7, 1904.
THOMAS RUSHTON - Born Coventry, England, May 19, 1832. When a boy of
9, he came to New York with his father, where they remained a year.
He distinctly remembered seeing President Tyler and the ceremonies
attending the introduction of the Croton water into New York.
Returning to England, at the age of 14, he began to learn printing.
At the end of seven years he became a journeyman and also a freeman
of his native city. That is to say, anyone who has served seven years
at a trade, appearing before the mayor of the city and having the
fact certified to by his employer, is made a freeman of the city with
certain special privileges. Thus at the time of his death Mr. Rushton
was nearly eligible to a pension of $1.50 a week. Working at his
trade for a time in England, he again came to America, this time
settling in Providence in 1863, where he worked on the Press until
1868, when he returned to the old country. After a year's absence he
returned to Providence, working on the Press again, and later on the
Star. In 1872 he removed to Boston, finding employment on the Globe.
In 1881 he took a vacation of six months, travelling in England and
on the continent. He then returned to his work on the Globe, and the
rest of his life was uneventful. In 1898 his health failed
perceptibly, and after a short illness he passed away on Nov. 19,
1900, at the age of 68 years and 6 months. He left a widow and two
children. One of them, Thomas Rushton, is employed on the Globe; the
other is the wife of R. W. Townsend, also an employe of the Globe.
While in Providence Mr. Rushton was a frequent contributor in prose
and verse to the Evening Press of that city.
JAMES H. RUSSELL - Born Providence Jan. 14, 1859; learned printing at
office of Franklin Printing Co., beginning in 1876; was foreman of
the Telegram until the strike in 1889; foreman of the Pawtucket Times
for five years; worked several years on the Weekly Visitor; now
assistant foreman of Worcester Telegram. He was initiated into
Providence Union April 8, 1883, and has held many important offices
in it, including that of I. T. U. delegate in 1888."
continued in part 163.
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Ed Garcia, MLIS
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Afternoon Nancy,
I went straight to those who would know...I called my library here in RI.
The general statewide rule is that you have to be a state resident to obtain a library card however there are libraries that make exceptions. Libraries that see an influx of seasonal residents such as Charlestown, Block Island, Newport have summer resident cards. I haven't checked these out but it sounds like the cards may have some sort of restrictions such as a fixed period of time during which they are valid or maybe a fee attached.
Bordering towns/cities also sometimes have policies to accommodate residents from just over the state line. As Lisa found for you, Pawtucket has this policy for nearby MA residents but also charges a $25 fee.
And as Lisa discovered, the policies that are
an exception to the "must be a RI resident" are at the discretion of the libraries.
So I guess the answer is you have to be a RI resident unless you fall into one of the exceptions categories.
I suppose then, the best you can do if out of state and needing an obit or article from the Providence Journal aka Projo, is to post and hope someone picks it up. For future reference, the Projo on line at ProQuest...what you access with the library bar code...covers 1983 to the present.
Anything prior to 1983 and you will have to have a search of the Projo on microfilm. The Providence Public Library aka PPL has the complet Projo from issue 1; other libraries including some of the colleges/universities have a more limited collection of years on microfilm but there are also libraries that have no Projo on microfilm such as my small local library.
The PPL can look-up and copy obits for you however they can't do research. There is a fee...$5 service fee and $0.20 per page copy pulled from the microfilm so you do get the obit or article such as a wedding announcement as it appeared in the newspaer and therefore any photos which may have been with the obit/article. As I understand the service fee it's the same whether you want 1 obit or several so it might be best to save-up the obits wanted and submit at once so as to save on the service fee.
To get a look-up and copy you need at least month and year. Joe Doe died May 1962 they could do. Joe Doe died sometime in 1962 or Joe Doe died sometime between 1960 - 1963 they couldn't do for you. Here is the information for the PPL for this:
PROVIDENCE PUBLIC LIBRARY:
Photocopies from microfilm of the Providence Journal from the beginning in the 1800's to the present:
(1983 - present on line at ProQuest with a RI Library card)
Providence Public Library Reference Services
150 Empire Street
Providence, Rhode Island 02903
Phone:401-455-8005.
Main number is 401-455-8000.
http://www.provlib.org/default.html
Email at pplref(a)provlib.org
You might also try Googling some of the local papers. I know the Warwick Beacon is on line but I don't know for how far back. I have found some of my obits for "recent" Kent Co. ancestors there:
http://warwickonline.com/warwickonline/index.php?option=com_search&Itemid... ~~ Warwick & West Warwick; links here to Johnston, Cranston and the RI Newspaper Group
http://www.valleybreeze.com/index.php ~~ this seems to be for fairly recent and for limited time on obits. Covers Smithfield, Johnston, North Providence, Scituate, Foster, Glocester, Cumberland & Lincoln....maybe North Smithfield or Burrillville - not sure.
http://www.warwickdailytimes.com/ ~~ Warwick
Linda
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From: Seamus <nanonine(a)roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [RI] Who can get a RI Library card?
To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 8:47 PM
OK, thank you Lisa. I appreciate it.
Nancy
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Who can get a RI Library card?
> Hi Nancy -
>
> I think each library has their own rules,
> but here's the info page from the Providence
> Public
> http://www.provlib.org/about/cards/gettingacard.html
>
> I looked at Pawtucket also, but they didn't mention
> out of state. I live in Massachusetts, and when I asked
> at Woonsocket, RI a few years ago, they told me
> it would be $25.00 a year, but I think you have to
> apply in person.
>
> Lisa
> llepore(a)comcast.net
>
>
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> Subject: [RI] Who can get a RI Library card?
>
>
> | Can anyone who lives out of
state obtain a RI library card? If so, how
> does one go about getting one? Thanks.
> |
> | Nancy
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Author: mindfoggs2
Surnames: JOHNSON
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Have you tried contacting the library at URI to see if they have yearbooks...I would imagine they might...for the years involved and asking about what male Johnson students were there?
The Alumni Office might be a possibility as well. Perhaps they would forward a message from you if you were to learn his complete name.
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Nancy -
Have you tried the URI Alumni Website? If you are a
graduate, you can register and look up classmates.
If you aren't a graduate, maybe someone on the list
who is a member can help you.
Lisa
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Hi Nancy,
We talked about this dairy back in 2005 on this list.
I looked them up in the 1930 census, and found the family
to be Herman & Gertrude, with 4 children
Malvin H. 16
Clifford W. 10
Ruth 8
Vilena 3
So, is Clifford the one you are looking for? He wouldn't have been a "boy" in 1962. Is it possible the URI student is a son of Malvin or Clifford?
Lisa
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OK, thank you Lisa. I appreciate it.
Nancy
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> Hi Nancy -
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> I think each library has their own rules,
> but here's the info page from the Providence
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> http://www.provlib.org/about/cards/gettingacard.html
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> I looked at Pawtucket also, but they didn't mention
> out of state. I live in Massachusetts, and when I asked
> at Woonsocket, RI a few years ago, they told me
> it would be $25.00 a year, but I think you have to
> apply in person.
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> | Can anyone who lives out of state obtain a RI library card? If so, how
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I have gone on the Prov.Journal site but could not find an obit...I think there name was Anna & Herman Johnson of Phenix Ave...but I am not sure they were the ones that had the son that I knew that went to URI...
I just knew his last name and that he had a connection with the Dairy...he may have been a cousin. This was around 1962 that he was a sophmore/junior at URI...
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I'm not totally sure what you are looking for...information on Hillside Dairy or an obit for unknown Johnson or both.
Hillside Dairy was in Western Cranston which would be Providence Co.
Johnson is a fairly common surname so it would help if you had a given name or a time frame for possible death which I assume was in RI. SSDI for Johnson with death in RI yields 1416 returns...far too many to try and guess just who is the Johnson you're looking for.
Projo is archived on line, accessible with a RI Library bar ode, from 1983 to present. I tried a search for Hillside Dairy thinking that it might yield a Johnson obit that mentioned the dairy.
I got a couple articles about the development of the former dairy's land but nothing on a Johnson individual. The second article gives some road names within the development that was the dairy farm so with those you can see on Google Maps or one of the others just where the diary farm had been. I can try for Johnson again if I have a bit more to go on so I'm not getting 1000's of results - 65562 to be exact - to sift through:
Western Cranston changes its face as expensive houses replace farmland
RUSSELL GARLAND Journal-Bulletin Staff Writer. Providence Journal. Providence, R.I.: Dec 27, 1983. pg. C-01
CRANSTON --- To the west of Route 295, the tight urban neighborhoods that most people recall when they think of the city give way to rolling hills, farms and expensive houses on large lots.
Western Cranston, as the section is known, once was the forgotten face of the city, a largely agricultural area with a few clustered homes.
But the face of western Cranston is changing. Route 295 and development of other sections of the city have made the open spaces west of the highway attractive to middle-class professionals. Homes are rising on the former pastures of a dairy farm and an industrial area is growing near the Johnston line.
IN THE early 1970s, city water was extended to part of western Cranston and that part was rezoned, allowing homes on half-acre lots instead of two acres. The recently completed citywide revaluation, the first since 1954, is expected to increase pressure on landowners to sell.
"It will all be developed sooner or later," said Charles F. Meinel, owner of Pippin Orchard Nurseries in the far west section of Cranston, where a minimum of two acres still is required for house lots. "I don't intend to stay more than 10 or 15 years because of development pressure."
Although it frequently pops up in conversation, western Cranston is not a historically defined section of the city like Knightsville or Edgewood. Generally, western Cranston is considered to be the 7,000 acres of the city west of Route 295, a four-lane superhighway built in the late 1960s and early '70s. At one time, western Cranston extended east to Route 5, but because of development during the 1960s that section more closely resembles the eastern part of the city, said Frederick J. Vincent, city planning director.
THE DIFFERENCE between east and west Cranston is most clearly seen in an aerial photo of the city, which Vincent pulled out of a drawer in his City Hall office. The east has streets and homes crowded around Providence; the west is open, with widely spaced roads, fields and mostly scattered houses. It could be a valley in southern Vermont.
"We're a typical suburb in one respect," Vincent said, "in another we're still rural."
Western Cranston escaped development for several reasons, Vincent explained - water, new homes closer to Providence and roads.
Soil in the area generally would not support both a well and septic field on less than two acres. Until the early 1970s, city water was not available, and sewers in western Cranston extend only to the 365-acre western Cranston industrial area.
And during the 1950s and '60s, there was plenty of developable land in central Cranston. Those years saw the building of Garden City, Garden Hills, Woodridge and Glenwood.
Vincent noted that until Routes 295 and 37 were constructed, access to Western Cranston was poor.
IN THE 1970s, however, the city extended water mains to the so-called "development area" of western Cranston, 2,300 acres just west of Route 295. In 1977, the area was zoned for single-family residences on half-acre lots. The city would like to extend sewers to the development area if federal money becomes available.
Between 1972 and 1983, Vincent said, 2,000 new house lots have been approved by the city, most of them in western Cranston.
"Our plan is not to encourage urban sprawl in western Cranston," the planning director said. "We do that primarily through zoning and extension of utilities."
The rezoning and city water are what Nicholas Cambio of Universal Properties said caused him to start developing subdivisions in western Cranston. The largest developer in western Cranston, Cambio has done four subdivisions in the area, including the 273-lot Hillside Farms begun in 1979 on the site of the now-defunct Hillside Dairy.
Prices for developed lots of half an acre or more range from $19,900 to $35,000, Cambio said. Houses being constructed on them run from the mid-$60,000s to $200,000, he said. The development is two-thirds complete.
PROXIMITY TO Route 295, Cambio said, is the "first and foremost" reason for the success of Hillside Farms.
"It's close enough so it doesn't take 10 minutes to get to Route 95," said the developer, "yet it's far enough so you don't hear the traffic."
"It's country-like but it's just minutes from Providence," Vincent said of western Cranston. "There are few places that have its potential both for industry and residences."
Some western Cranston residents, like Meinel, are not pleased by this potential. He said farmers are being driven out by higher taxes and increased vandalism and theft associated with development.
"I hate to see so much being developed," he said, "especially the good agricultural land that farmers have spent 200 years preparing and someone takes a bulldozer to it."
According to a survey done by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in 1979, nearly 1,300 acres in western Cranston were devoted to agriculture. More recent figures are unavailable, but during the 1984 growing season, the department plans to repeat the survey, which was part of a study of farmland in all of Rhode Island.
A REPORT issued in January, 1979, by the Cranston League of Women Voters and Conservation Commission said that of the 56 owners of western Cranston farmland surveyed, most wanted to retain their land and continue farming.
The city's primary weapon to discourage development of agricultural land in the far western section of Cranston, said Vincent, is the two-acre minimum lot size.
"I think it has been effective," he said, adding that since the late 1960s, when the low-density zoning was enacted, there have been only two major subdivisions in that section of western Cranston. City zoning does not include provisions for agricultural zones.
Revaluation will increase pressure on many large landowners who previously were paying taxes based on land values in 1954, when western Cranston was far down on the list of desirable addresses.
Taxes on the 100-acre Pippin Orchard Nurseries property were $1,300 this year but will rise to approximately $7,500 next year, based on a tax rate of $30 per $1,000, the rate given as a "ballpark" figure by city officials.
About a half-dozen western Cranston landowners are seeking tax relief under the state Farm, Forest and Open Space Act, said Cranston Assessor Carlo V. DelBonis.
"It's not fair to the taxpayers in any part of the city to allow someone else an unfair advantage," DelBonis said. "If they're farmers, they can go on the Farm, Forest and Open Space Act; if they're land speculators, they'll have to pay their fair share."
Cranston
"Our plan is not to en courage urban sprawl in western Cranston. We do that
primarily through zoning and ex tension of utilities." Frederick Vincent
planning director
-Journal-Bulletin Map by Donald J. Perriello
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Neighborhood of the week Country feel, suburban conveniences Former dairy farm is family-friendly development; [ALL Edition]
AVIS GUNTHER-ROSENBERG Journal-Bulletin Staff Writer. Providence Journal - Bulletin. Providence, R.I.: Oct 5, 1997. pg. G.01
Hillside Farms was developed on the site of the former Hillside Dairy, which operated for half a century as one of the largest independent dairies in Rhode Island.
Hillside Farms residents say the area still has a bit of a country feel, but with suburban conveniences. It's minutes from the highway and has access to Hope Highlands Elementary School.
All in all, they say it's a great place to raise a family.
You'd never know that Hillside Farms is also a neighborhood that has had its share of controversy.
Developed beginning in 1979 by Universal Properties, which is owned by partners Nicholas and Vincent Cambio and Ronnie Malafronte, Hillside Farms was in the news a lot in the early '90s during the banking crisis.
The controversy centered around $687,500 in loans from the now-defunct Central Credit Union to Nicholas Cambio for the development of 11 lots that the Department of Environmental Management had deemed so swampy that septic systems would be unlikely to work.
Nicholas Cambio says the hoopla was created by the media who "took a picture of a lot after a 4- to 5-inch rainstorm. Absolutely, you'll have some water puddling in low-lying land after a rainstorm. You'll have that in a parking lot."
Cambio, who says his company built between 400 and 500 houses in Hillside Farms between 1979 and 1987 (he's says it's one of the biggest subdivisions in the state), said he settled with DEPCO (Rhode Island Depositors Economic Protection Corporation) in July 1993, agreeing to "give them all the real estate that was collateral for the loans and $3 million."
"And, at the end of the day, the lots got sold and somebody built houses on them. I ride through on occasion and the grass is green; cars are in the driveway; seems like a happy family to me."
Russell Chateauneuf, chief of permitting for the DEM's office of water resources, says DEM never says a lot is "unbuildable." Even if a lot does not meet building requirements today, there are steps that can be taken to change that.
"If the land has a high water table," Chateauneuf says, "you can install sub-drains around the perimeter of the lot and drain it into the street with the city's permission. It's not an inexpensive process, but one that is available.
"Sometimes, by building a subdivision, putting in drains, they are able to lower the water table."
Currently, five or six house lots on Thunder Trail have not yet received DEM's approval and are not built on.
Cranston City Planner Kevin Flynn says the Thunder Trail lots are the only ones he knows about that have still failed to pass a perculator test - where holes are drilled into the ground to measure how quickly water penetrates the soil.
He says there are several undeveloped lots scattered throughout the subdivision but they may be undeveloped for other reasons. For instance, a homeowner may have bought a neighboring lot for added privacy.
Today, residents have nothing but positive things to say about the community, calling it a wonderful family place, a place of helpful neighbors, a good place to raise kids. Those that have heard of the problems say they have not been affected by them.
Diana Beaudoin has lived in Hillside Farms since 1983. When her third child came along five years ago, she needed a larger home. She didn't look far, finding what she wanted a few streets away on Baneberry Drive, a house that Cambio built.
"Before we moved in, I had a cement company come in and look at the foundation," Beaudoin says. They found a crack that they then repaired, but otherwise everything was fine.
And nine-year resident Martha Ahern, of Eric Court, has never met anyone in the neighborhood who has had problems with septic systems backing up or water in the basement, although she has seen evidence of a high water table on some of the back streets - water-logged grass when it pours after it hasn't rained in a while.
But if anyone's having major problems, she hasn't heard of them. Just the opposite. Everyone seems very happy with their homes.
"People take care of their houses," she says. "There are a lot of families of all ages, young kids and teenagers. People that I know, I like. I have no complaints."
Like Beaudoin, Tom Foley, owner of New England Pacific Mortgage, loves the neighborhood so much, he passed up a chance to move out. Foley first came to Hillside Farms in 1988, intending to stay only a few years, then move down to East Greenwich. His plans changed when his three daughters were born.
When Foley moved in, most of his neighbors were newlyweds, but quickly the backyards began to fill with swingsets, and minivans replaced sports cars in the driveways.
"The neighbors used to hang out on their decks on Friday and Saturday nights having parties," Foley remembers. "Now it's all T-ball and soccer. It's great if you're looking for an old-style neighborhood where kids can play and you don't have to be looking out the window all the time. Every house has two to four kids. It's like a playground. There are 13 kids in the five houses near us."
It's not unusual, he says, to have 10 children playing in the yard one minute, then to find out they've all moved down the street to a neighbor's yard.
It feels safe, he says, to let the children loose on the neighborhood, because everyone watches out for everyone else's kids.
They watch out for the adults, too, banding together when a neighbor is in crisis.
It happened to Beaudoin last year when her husband, Thomas, a salesman for Frito-Lay, died at age 38. Friends stepped forward to support her, and even those she had had only a pass-and-wave relationship with came to lend a hand.
"They would come by to do the grass if it needed to be cut," she says. "They chipped in and helped pay for an alarm system when I was scared to be alone in the house. Another group set up a fundraiser in honor of my husband, setting up a trust fund for my kids' college education.
"Every time I walk out of here it's 'do you need anything.' "
The neighborly feeling has always been there, Beaudoin says. When her children, now 11, 7 1/2 and 6, were smaller, the phone would ring on Christmas day. "Santa left stuff here for your kids, too," neighbors would say.
The neighborhood, bordered by Seminole and Tepee Trails to the north, Olney Arnold Road to the east, Pippin Orchard Road to the west and Furnace Hill Brook to the south, is minutes from Route 37 and two miles from Oaklawn Avenue.
The proximity to shopping is one of the things that sold Debra Miraglia, a real estate agent with RE/MAX First Choice, in Cranston, on her Eric Court home, that and the half-acre lots that are "just enough to make me feel I'm not in the city."
"My husband works in Marlboro, Mass.. (The neighborhood's location is) perfect, like living in the country, but it's 10 minutes to Providence, 45 minutes to Boston."
And unlike pricier Western Cranston neighborhoods, Hillside Farms is affordable for young professionals, Miraglia says, with average sale prices in the past six months around $140,000.
According to a search of the Multiple Listing Service, there are currently five houses on the market ranging in price from $142,500 for a 1,500-square-foot colonial on Hope Hill Terrace to $194,900 for a 2,166-square-foot colonial on Kimberly Lane.
Four houses have sold within the past six months with an average stay on the market of 81 days. The least expensive was an 864-square-foot raised ranch on Robinlyn Drive that sold for $109,000. The most expensive was a 1,744-square-foot colonial on Kimberly Lane that sold for $169,500.
Cranston real estate taxes are $31.74 per $1,000. There is a 30 percent reduction off the assessed value for owner-occupied dwellings.
CAPTION: A TOUCH OF THE CITY: On Eric Court in the Hillside Farms neighborhood of Cranston, curbs neatly define the property fronts.
CAPTION: A TOUCH OF THE COUNTRY: On Thunder Trail, a cape is nestled among large trees.
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