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Hi, all,
I did some research, by contacting a few "gurus" of the Carpenter family. Here is one response:
John,
It appears that whoever compiled the Hopkins material relied on
Somersby and/or Savage (or a tertiary source repeating one or the other) for
the identification of Thomas Hopkins's wife. All Somersby's work
should be regarded with extreme caution; both he and Savage are wrong in
this case.
While immigrant Thomas Hopkins was indeed the nephew of
William Arnold--his parents were William and Joan (Arnold)
Hopkins--he married neither of Arnold's daughters. As you
know, Elizabeth Arnold married William Carpenter of Providence; Elizabeth's
only sister, Joanna, married Zachary Rhodes (NEHGR 33:28, 69:67; Robert
Charles Anderson, George Freeman Sanborn Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn,
The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634–1635, Volume I A–B
[Boston,
1999], 88-90).
>From what I can gather, Thomas Hopkins's wife is unknown.
Gene
In a message dated 3/13/2008 4:21:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
John writes:
According to this person William Carpenter's wife was also married to
Thomas Hopkins . Can you clarify if you can >
John
> Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the
numerous
> families
>> bearing the name of
Hopkins, especially in Rhode Island and
>
Massachusetts,
>> was
>> the progenitor of
Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of Worcester. He was
>
the
>> son of
>> William and Joanna (Arnold)
Hopkins, and was born in England, April
> 7,
>>
1616,
>> died in Providence in 1684.
>> His
mother was a daughter of Thomas and Alice (Gully) Arnold.
Joanna
>> Arnold
>> was baptized November 30,
1577; her brother, William Arnold, was
> born
>>
June
>> 24, 1587, the father of Bendict Arnold, not the
traitor but the
> first
>>
governor
>> of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643
and ancestor of the
>> Arnolds
>> of Warwick.
Her half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the
>
Arnold
>> families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of
Thomas Hopkins is
>> Elizabeth
>>
Arnold,
>> daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor
Benedict Arnold,
> a
>> cousin.
>>
His name first appears on New England Colonial records in
Providence,
>> Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July
27, 1640, he was one
> of
>> the
39
>> signers of the agreement for a form of government. His
name appears
> once
>> in
>>
public
>> records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s.
4d. In 1652 he was
>> chosen
>> for the office
of Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of
>>
considerable
>> prominence in the community. He also filled
this office in 1659 and
> 1660.
>>
In
>> 1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he
obtained Lot 93
> in a
>> division of public
lands. In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from
>>
Providence to
>> the
>> Rhode Island General
Assembly in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and
>
1672
>> he
>> was a member of the Town Council
of Providence, Providence County,
> Rhode
>>
Island.
>> At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly
before, when war
> with
>> the
>>
Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called
>
Littleworth,
>> in the
>> town of Oyster Bay
on Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
>>
predeceased him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard
Kirby
> in
>> Oyster
>> Bay
in
>> 1684. The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by
the Oyster Bay
>> authorities on Sept. 17,
1684.
>> A deed given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas,
bearing the
> last
>> named
>>
date, is recorded in Providence Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11,
>
wherein
>> certain lands are represented as having formerly
belonged to
> William's
>>
honored
>> father, Thomas Hopkins, deceased, and as this is a
gift deed from
>> William, the
>> elder, to
his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably by a sense
>
of
>> the
>> injustice of the law of
primogeniture which gave the property of the
>> parent
to
>> the eldest son, it is presumable that the conveyance
soon followed
> the
>> decease
>>
of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of his decease
as
>> stated.
>> Savage, in his Genealogical
Dictionary, gives the year of his
> decease as
>>
1699.
>> An error without doubt resulting from the fact of a
Thomas Hopkins'
> will
>> being probated Feb. 25
of that year. The details of the will
> referred
to
>> show
>> conclusively that it was one of
some other person bearing the same
> name.
>>
Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County
vol1
> P.
>> 823,
>> Ellery
Bicknell Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One
>
Line
>> of
>> the Hopkins Family,
J.A.&R.A. Reid Printers, Providence, Providence
>>
County,
>> Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century
Colonial Ancestors,
>> 1975-79,
>> Page 33.
New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116.
>
One
>> Hundred
>>
>> and Sixty
Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol.
> 20,
p.
>> 224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence
Plantations by Thomas
>> William
>> Bicknell,
Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page
266.
>> Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants
from England to
> New
>>
England,
>> Page
>> 143. The First Settlers of
New England, Page 149. Ancestral Heads of
>
New
>> England
>> Families, Page 123.
Genealogies of R. I. Families, Volume I, Mr.
>>
Somerby's
>> Genealogy of the Arnold Family, Page 11. The
Home Lots of the Early
>> Settlers
>> of the
Providence Plantations.
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Date:
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John,
It appears that whoever compiled the Hopkins material relied on
Somersby and/or Savage (or a tertiary source repeating one or the other) for the
identification of Thomas Hopkins's wife. All Somersby's work should
be regarded with extreme caution; both he and Savage are wrong in this
case. While immigrant Thomas Hopkins was indeed the nephew of William
Arnold--his parents were William and Joan (Arnold) Hopkins--he married
neither of Arnold's daughters. As you know, Elizabeth Arnold married
William Carpenter of Providence; Elizabeth's only sister, Joanna, married
Zachary Rhodes (NEHGR 33:28, 69:67; Robert Charles Anderson, George Freeman
Sanborn Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, The Great Migration: Immigrants to
New England, 1634–1635, Volume I A–B [Boston, 1999], 88-90).
>From what I can gather, Thomas Hopkins's wife is unknown.
Gene
In a message dated 3/13/2008 4:21:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Johnlsaywhat writes:
According to this person William Carpenter's wife was also married to
Thomas Hopkins . Can you clarify if you can >
John L. Carpenter
PO Box
912
Walpole,N.H. 03608-0912
> Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the
numerous
> families
>> bearing the name of Hopkins,
especially in Rhode Island and
> Massachusetts,
>>
was
>> the progenitor of Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of
Worcester. He was
> the
>> son of
>>
William and Joanna (Arnold) Hopkins, and was born in England,
April
> 7,
>> 1616,
>> died in
Providence in 1684.
>> His mother was a daughter of Thomas and
Alice (Gully) Arnold. Joanna
>> Arnold
>> was
baptized November 30, 1577; her brother, William Arnold, was
>
born
>> June
>> 24, 1587, the father of Bendict
Arnold, not the traitor but the
> first
>>
governor
>> of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643 and
ancestor of the
>> Arnolds
>> of Warwick. Her
half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the
>
Arnold
>> families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of Thomas
Hopkins is
>> Elizabeth
>>
Arnold,
>> daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor
Benedict Arnold,
> a
>> cousin.
>>
His name first appears on New England Colonial records in
Providence,
>> Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July
27, 1640, he was one
> of
>> the
39
>> signers of the agreement for a form of government. His
name appears
> once
>> in
>>
public
>> records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s. 4d.
In 1652 he was
>> chosen
>> for the office of
Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of
>>
considerable
>> prominence in the community. He also filled
this office in 1659 and
> 1660.
>>
In
>> 1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he
obtained Lot 93
> in a
>> division of public lands.
In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from
>> Providence
to
>> the
>> Rhode Island General Assembly in
Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and
> 1672
>>
he
>> was a member of the Town Council of Providence,
Providence County,
> Rhode
>>
Island.
>> At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly
before, when war
> with
>> the
>>
Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called
>
Littleworth,
>> in the
>> town of Oyster Bay on
Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
>> predeceased
him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard Kirby
>
in
>> Oyster
>> Bay in
>> 1684.
The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by the Oyster
Bay
>> authorities on Sept. 17, 1684.
>> A deed
given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas, bearing the
>
last
>> named
>> date, is recorded in Providence
Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11,
> wherein
>> certain
lands are represented as having formerly belonged to
>
William's
>> honored
>> father, Thomas Hopkins,
deceased, and as this is a gift deed from
>> William,
the
>> elder, to his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably
by a sense
> of
>> the
>> injustice
of the law of primogeniture which gave the property of the
>>
parent to
>> the eldest son, it is presumable that the
conveyance soon followed
> the
>>
decease
>> of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of
his decease as
>> stated.
>> Savage, in his
Genealogical Dictionary, gives the year of his
> decease
as
>> 1699.
>> An error without doubt resulting
from the fact of a Thomas Hopkins'
> will
>> being
probated Feb. 25 of that year. The details of the will
> referred
to
>> show
>> conclusively that it was one of
some other person bearing the same
> name.
>>
Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County
vol1
> P.
>> 823,
>> Ellery Bicknell
Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One
>
Line
>> of
>> the Hopkins Family, J.A.&R.A.
Reid Printers, Providence, Providence
>>
County,
>> Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century
Colonial Ancestors,
>> 1975-79,
>> Page 33. New
England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116.
>
One
>> Hundred
>>
>> and Sixty
Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol.
> 20,
p.
>> 224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence
Plantations by Thomas
>> William
>> Bicknell,
Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page 266.
>>
Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants from England
to
> New
>> England,
>>
Page
>> 143. The First Settlers of New England, Page 149.
Ancestral Heads of
> New
>>
England
>> Families, Page 123. Genealogies of R. I. Families,
Volume I, Mr.
>> Somerby's
>> Genealogy of the
Arnold Family, Page 11. The Home Lots of the Early
>>
Settlers
>> of the Providence Plantations.
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Well, Charlie!
That's exactly what I have!!
Do you happen to know if she married Thomas Hopkins? Or is her ONLY
hubby William Carpenter??? Or does someone have their data mixed up?
Jannie
-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Carpenter <nktown17(a)cox.net>
To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [RI] Arnold entanglement
Jan
According to Daniel H. Carpenters book on William Carpenter of
Providence,(R.I.) line.
William Carpenter,son of Richard of Amesbury,Wiltshire,England had as a
wife
Elizabeth Arnold b 11-23-1611. She was the daughter of William and
Christiana (Peak) Arnold. William and Elizabeth Carpenter were married
before sailing to America.
Charlie C.
----- Original Message -----
From: <janrobison2(a)aim.com>
To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Thomas ARNOLD
>
> I have found conflicting information in my notes on Elizabeth
Arnold.? My
> notes say that she is the daughter, and sister, etc., as stated
below, but
> that she married William Carpenter in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 1
Nov
> 1634.
>
> What a mess!!!? Can anyone untangle this?
>
> Jan Robison
> Sanford, Florida
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brooks1934(a)aol.com
> To: RIGENWEB(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 8:11 pm
> Subject: [RI] Thomas ARNOLD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas Arnold was my 9th great grand-uncle. Found this in my notes:
> Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the numerous
families
> bearing the name of Hopkins, especially in Rhode Island and
Massachusetts,
> was
> the progenitor of Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of Worcester. He was
the
> son of
> William and Joanna (Arnold) Hopkins, and was born in England, April
7,
> 1616,
> died in Providence in 1684.
> His mother was a daughter of Thomas and Alice (Gully) Arnold. Joanna
> Arnold
> was baptized November 30, 1577; her brother, William Arnold, was born
> June
> 24, 1587, the father of Bendict Arnold, not the traitor but the first
> governor
> of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643 and ancestor of the
> Arnolds
> of Warwick. Her half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the
Arnold
> families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of Thomas Hopkins is
> Elizabeth
> Arnold,
> daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor Benedict Arnold, a
> cousin.
> His name first appears on New England Colonial records in Providence,
> Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July 27, 1640, he was one
of
> the 39
> signers of the agreement for a form of government. His name appears
once
> in
> public
> records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s. 4d. In 1652 he was
> chosen
> for the office of Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of
> considerable
> prominence in the community. He also filled this office in 1659 and
1660.
> In
> 1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he obtained Lot 93
in a
> division of public lands. In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from
> Providence to
> the
> Rhode Island General Assembly in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and
1672
> he
> was a member of the Town Council of Providence, Providence County,
Rhode
> Island.
> At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly before, when war
with
> the
> Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called
Littleworth,
> in the
> town of Oyster Bay on Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
> predeceased him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard Kirby in
> Oyster
> Bay in
> 1684. The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by the Oyster Bay
> authorities on Sept. 17, 1684.
> A deed given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas, bearing the last
> named
> date, is recorded in Providence Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11,
wherein
> certain lands are represented as having formerly belonged to
William's
> honored
> father, Thomas Hopkins, deceased, and as this is a gift deed from
> William, the
> elder, to his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably by a sense
of
> the
> injustice of the law of primogeniture which gave the property of the
> parent to
> the eldest son, it is presumable that the conveyance soon followed
the
> decease
> of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of his decease as
> stated.
> Savage, in his Genealogical Dictionary, gives the year of his decease
as
> 1699.
> An error without doubt resulting from the fact of a Thomas Hopkins'
will
> being probated Feb. 25 of that year. The details of the will referred
to
> show
> conclusively that it was one of some other person bearing the same
name.
> Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County vol1
P.
> 823,
> Ellery Bicknell Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One
Line
> of
> the Hopkins Family, J.A.&R.A. Reid Printers, Providence, Providence
> County,
> Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors,
> 1975-79,
> Page 33. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116.
One
> Hundred
>
> and Sixty Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol.
20, p.
> 224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence Plantations by Thomas
> William
> Bicknell, Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page 266.
> Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants from England to
New
> England,
> Page
> 143. The First Settlers of New England, Page 149. Ancestral Heads of
New
> England
> Families, Page 123. Genealogies of R. I. Families, Volume I, Mr.
> Somerby's
> Genealogy of the Arnold Family, Page 11. The Home Lots of the Early
> Settlers
> of the Providence Plantations.
> Sources Title: Susan Cary
> Author: _Scary(a)infowest.com_ (mailto:Scary@infowest.com)
>
>>From Judy Brooks Truchon
>
Jan
According to Daniel H. Carpenters book on William Carpenter of
Providence,(R.I.) line.
William Carpenter,son of Richard of Amesbury,Wiltshire,England had as a wife
Elizabeth Arnold b 11-23-1611. She was the daughter of William and
Christiana (Peak) Arnold. William and Elizabeth Carpenter were married
before sailing to America.
Charlie C.
----- Original Message -----
From: <janrobison2(a)aim.com>
To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Thomas ARNOLD
>
> I have found conflicting information in my notes on Elizabeth Arnold.? My
> notes say that she is the daughter, and sister, etc., as stated below, but
> that she married William Carpenter in Amesbury, Wiltshire, England 1 Nov
> 1634.
>
> What a mess!!!? Can anyone untangle this?
>
> Jan Robison
> Sanford, Florida
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brooks1934(a)aol.com
> To: RIGENWEB(a)rootsweb.com
> Sent: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 8:11 pm
> Subject: [RI] Thomas ARNOLD
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas Arnold was my 9th great grand-uncle. Found this in my notes:
> Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the numerous families
> bearing the name of Hopkins, especially in Rhode Island and Massachusetts,
> was
> the progenitor of Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of Worcester. He was the
> son of
> William and Joanna (Arnold) Hopkins, and was born in England, April 7,
> 1616,
> died in Providence in 1684.
> His mother was a daughter of Thomas and Alice (Gully) Arnold. Joanna
> Arnold
> was baptized November 30, 1577; her brother, William Arnold, was born
> June
> 24, 1587, the father of Bendict Arnold, not the traitor but the first
> governor
> of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643 and ancestor of the
> Arnolds
> of Warwick. Her half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the Arnold
> families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of Thomas Hopkins is
> Elizabeth
> Arnold,
> daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor Benedict Arnold, a
> cousin.
> His name first appears on New England Colonial records in Providence,
> Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July 27, 1640, he was one of
> the 39
> signers of the agreement for a form of government. His name appears once
> in
> public
> records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s. 4d. In 1652 he was
> chosen
> for the office of Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of
> considerable
> prominence in the community. He also filled this office in 1659 and 1660.
> In
> 1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he obtained Lot 93 in a
> division of public lands. In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from
> Providence to
> the
> Rhode Island General Assembly in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and 1672
> he
> was a member of the Town Council of Providence, Providence County, Rhode
> Island.
> At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly before, when war with
> the
> Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called Littleworth,
> in the
> town of Oyster Bay on Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
> predeceased him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard Kirby in
> Oyster
> Bay in
> 1684. The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by the Oyster Bay
> authorities on Sept. 17, 1684.
> A deed given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas, bearing the last
> named
> date, is recorded in Providence Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11, wherein
> certain lands are represented as having formerly belonged to William's
> honored
> father, Thomas Hopkins, deceased, and as this is a gift deed from
> William, the
> elder, to his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably by a sense of
> the
> injustice of the law of primogeniture which gave the property of the
> parent to
> the eldest son, it is presumable that the conveyance soon followed the
> decease
> of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of his decease as
> stated.
> Savage, in his Genealogical Dictionary, gives the year of his decease as
> 1699.
> An error without doubt resulting from the fact of a Thomas Hopkins' will
> being probated Feb. 25 of that year. The details of the will referred to
> show
> conclusively that it was one of some other person bearing the same name.
> Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County vol1 P.
> 823,
> Ellery Bicknell Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One Line
> of
> the Hopkins Family, J.A.&R.A. Reid Printers, Providence, Providence
> County,
> Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors,
> 1975-79,
> Page 33. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116. One
> Hundred
>
> and Sixty Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol. 20, p.
> 224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence Plantations by Thomas
> William
> Bicknell, Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page 266.
> Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants from England to New
> England,
> Page
> 143. The First Settlers of New England, Page 149. Ancestral Heads of New
> England
> Families, Page 123. Genealogies of R. I. Families, Volume I, Mr.
> Somerby's
> Genealogy of the Arnold Family, Page 11. The Home Lots of the Early
> Settlers
> of the Providence Plantations.
> Sources Title: Susan Cary
> Author: _Scary(a)infowest.com_ (mailto:Scary@infowest.com)
>
>>From Judy Brooks Truchon
>
>
>
> **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money &
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Judy,
This is great info and I appreciate the sources. Thank you!
Brenda HOpkins
Clackamas, OR
-----Original Message-----
>From: Brooks1934(a)aol.com
>Sent: Mar 11, 2008 5:11 PM
>To: RIGENWEB(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: [RI] Thomas ARNOLD
>
>Thomas Arnold was my 9th great grand-uncle. Found this in my notes:
>Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the numerous families
>bearing the name of Hopkins, especially in Rhode Island and Massachusetts, was
>the progenitor of Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of Worcester. He was the son of
>William and Joanna (Arnold) Hopkins, and was born in England, April 7, 1616,
>died in Providence in 1684.
>His mother was a daughter of Thomas and Alice (Gully) Arnold. Joanna Arnold
>was baptized November 30, 1577; her brother, William Arnold, was born June
>24, 1587, the father of Bendict Arnold, not the traitor but the first governor
>of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643 and ancestor of the Arnolds
>of Warwick. Her half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the Arnold
>families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of Thomas Hopkins is Elizabeth Arnold,
>daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor Benedict Arnold, a cousin.
>His name first appears on New England Colonial records in Providence,
>Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July 27, 1640, he was one of the 39
>signers of the agreement for a form of government. His name appears once in public
>records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s. 4d. In 1652 he was chosen
>for the office of Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of considerable
>prominence in the community. He also filled this office in 1659 and 1660. In
>1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he obtained Lot 93 in a
>division of public lands. In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from Providence to the
>Rhode Island General Assembly in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and 1672 he
>was a member of the Town Council of Providence, Providence County, Rhode
>Island.
>At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly before, when war with the
>Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called Littleworth, in the
>town of Oyster Bay on Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
>predeceased him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard Kirby in Oyster Bay in
>1684. The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by the Oyster Bay
>authorities on Sept. 17, 1684.
>A deed given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas, bearing the last named
>date, is recorded in Providence Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11, wherein
>certain lands are represented as having formerly belonged to William's honored
>father, Thomas Hopkins, deceased, and as this is a gift deed from William, the
>elder, to his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably by a sense of the
>injustice of the law of primogeniture which gave the property of the parent to
>the eldest son, it is presumable that the conveyance soon followed the decease
>of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of his decease as stated.
>Savage, in his Genealogical Dictionary, gives the year of his decease as 1699.
>An error without doubt resulting from the fact of a Thomas Hopkins' will
>being probated Feb. 25 of that year. The details of the will referred to show
>conclusively that it was one of some other person bearing the same name.
>Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County vol1 P. 823,
>Ellery Bicknell Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One Line of
>the Hopkins Family, J.A.&R.A. Reid Printers, Providence, Providence County,
>Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, 1975-79,
>Page 33. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116. One Hundred
>and Sixty Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol. 20, p.
>224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence Plantations by Thomas William
>Bicknell, Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page 266.
>Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants from England to New England, Page
>143. The First Settlers of New England, Page 149. Ancestral Heads of New England
>Families, Page 123. Genealogies of R. I. Families, Volume I, Mr. Somerby's
>Genealogy of the Arnold Family, Page 11. The Home Lots of the Early Settlers
>of the Providence Plantations.
>Sources Title: Susan Cary
>Author: _Scary(a)infowest.com_ (mailto:Scary@infowest.com)
>
>>From Judy Brooks Truchon
>
>
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Thomas Arnold was my 9th great grand-uncle. Found this in my notes:
Thomas Hopkins, the immigrant ancestor of many of the numerous families
bearing the name of Hopkins, especially in Rhode Island and Massachusetts, was
the progenitor of Frederick Ferdinand Hopkins, of Worcester. He was the son of
William and Joanna (Arnold) Hopkins, and was born in England, April 7, 1616,
died in Providence in 1684.
His mother was a daughter of Thomas and Alice (Gully) Arnold. Joanna Arnold
was baptized November 30, 1577; her brother, William Arnold, was born June
24, 1587, the father of Bendict Arnold, not the traitor but the first governor
of Rhode Island under the royal charter of 1643 and ancestor of the Arnolds
of Warwick. Her half-brother, Thomas Arnold, is progenitor of the Arnold
families of northern Rhode Island. The wife of Thomas Hopkins is Elizabeth Arnold,
daughter of William Arnold, and sister to Governor Benedict Arnold, a cousin.
His name first appears on New England Colonial records in Providence,
Providence County, Rhode Island, where on July 27, 1640, he was one of the 39
signers of the agreement for a form of government. His name appears once in public
records when on Sept. 2, 1650, he was taxed 13s. 4d. In 1652 he was chosen
for the office of Commisioner, indicating that he was a man of considerable
prominence in the community. He also filled this office in 1659 and 1660. In
1655 he was made a freeman and on July 19, 1665, he obtained Lot 93 in a
division of public lands. In 1665,66,67&72 he was the deputy from Providence to the
Rhode Island General Assembly in Newport, Rhode Island. In 1667 and 1672 he
was a member of the Town Council of Providence, Providence County, Rhode
Island.
At the outbreak of King Phillips War, or shortly before, when war with the
Indians became imminent, he removed to a settlement called Littleworth, in the
town of Oyster Bay on Long Island, NY. He went there with a son who
predeceased him. Thomas Hopkins died at the house of Richard Kirby in Oyster Bay in
1684. The inventory of his estate was ordered taken by the Oyster Bay
authorities on Sept. 17, 1684.
A deed given by Maj. William Hopkins, son of Thomas, bearing the last named
date, is recorded in Providence Book of Deeds, No. 4, page 11, wherein
certain lands are represented as having formerly belonged to William's honored
father, Thomas Hopkins, deceased, and as this is a gift deed from William, the
elder, to his younger brother, Thomas, prompted probably by a sense of the
injustice of the law of primogeniture which gave the property of the parent to
the eldest son, it is presumable that the conveyance soon followed the decease
of the parent, thus showing the approximate time of his decease as stated.
Savage, in his Genealogical Dictionary, gives the year of his decease as 1699.
An error without doubt resulting from the fact of a Thomas Hopkins' will
being probated Feb. 25 of that year. The details of the will referred to show
conclusively that it was one of some other person bearing the same name.
Sources: Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worchester County vol1 P. 823,
Ellery Bicknell Crane, Call Number: F72.W9C8vol.1 Genealogy of One Line of
the Hopkins Family, J.A.&R.A. Reid Printers, Providence, Providence County,
Rhode Island 1881 Pp. 7-8. Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, 1975-79,
Page 33. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Vol. 2, p. 116. One Hundred
and Sixty Allied Families, Page 59. The American Genealogist, Vol. 20, p.
224. The History of Rhode Island & Providence Plantations by Thomas William
Bicknell, Pare 412. Guide to the Early Settlers of America, Page 266.
Topographical Dictionary of New England, Emigrants from England to New England, Page
143. The First Settlers of New England, Page 149. Ancestral Heads of New England
Families, Page 123. Genealogies of R. I. Families, Volume I, Mr. Somerby's
Genealogy of the Arnold Family, Page 11. The Home Lots of the Early Settlers
of the Providence Plantations.
Sources Title: Susan Cary
Author: _Scary(a)infowest.com_ (mailto:Scary@infowest.com)
>From Judy Brooks Truchon
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-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Blackwell <pblackwell(a)rideaf.net>
>Sent: Mar 11, 2008 1:56 PM
>To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [RI] Thomas HOPKINS
>
>
>Brenda
>It is very likely that the Thomas that Arlan references is the one
>that you are looking for. If it is, he came on the ship with
>William Arnold and his family (including Benedict, first governor).
>We do not know the name of the ship. They arrived in Hingham MA and
>later joined up with Roger Williams coming to Providence. Thomas
>Hopkins was William Arnold's nephew, the son of William Hopkins and
>Joanna Arnold of Yeoville, Somersetshire. He was 19 at the time of
>his sailing which would fit with the birth date Arlan cites as well
>as the arrival in Providence. Brenda. The most useful source for
>this is "An account of the English Homes of Three Early 'Proprietors'
>of Providence" William Arnold, Stukely Westcott and William
>Carpenter by Fred A. Arnold, member of the RI Historical Society,
>1921. Thomas came of the ship with his sister Frances, 21, married
>to William Man. Thomas was baptised 7th April, 1616. I hope this
>turns out to be your Thomas.
>
>Peter Blackwell
>
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I'd like a copy too. Never had a fun list before.
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Brenda
I seem to answering my own posting. There are a number of family
trees on line that suggest that the Thomas we have been referring to
indeed married Elizabeth Arnold. There were two Elizabeths on board,
one William Arnold's sister and the other his daughter aged 23. So
this would have been Thomas' cousin. I cannot vouch at all for the
veracity of the family trees posted on line.
There are some conflicting dates on Thomas' death. My problem is
that in his will he refers to his wife as Sarah. I will take
another look at that issue.
Peter
Brenda
It is very likely that the Thomas that Arlan references is the one
that you are looking for. If it is, he came on the ship with
William Arnold and his family (including Benedict, first governor).
We do not know the name of the ship. They arrived in Hingham MA and
later joined up with Roger Williams coming to Providence. Thomas
Hopkins was William Arnold's nephew, the son of William Hopkins and
Joanna Arnold of Yeoville, Somersetshire. He was 19 at the time of
his sailing which would fit with the birth date Arlan cites as well
as the arrival in Providence. Brenda. The most useful source for
this is "An account of the English Homes of Three Early 'Proprietors'
of Providence" William Arnold, Stukely Westcott and William
Carpenter by Fred A. Arnold, member of the RI Historical Society,
1921. Thomas came of the ship with his sister Frances, 21, married
to William Man. Thomas was baptised 7th April, 1616. I hope this
turns out to be your Thomas.
Peter Blackwell
Brenda
I seem to answering my own postings. There are a number of
family trees on line that suggest that the Thomas we have been
referring to indeed married Elizabeth Arnold. There were two
Elizabeths on board, one William Arnold's sister and the other his
daughter aged 23. So this would have been Thomas' cousin. I cannot
vouch at all for the veracity of the family trees posted on line.
There are some conflicting dates on Thomas' death. My problem is
that in his will he refers to his wife as Sarah. I will take
another look at that issue.
Peter
On Mar 11, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Peter Blackwell wrote:
> Brenda
> I did not provide any sources for the information I sent to
> you. There are many. The most useful is "An account of the
> English Homes of Three Early 'Proprietors' of Providence" William
> Arnold, Stukely Westcott and William Carpenter by Fred A. Arnold,
> member of the RI Historical Society, 1921. Thomas came of the ship
> with his sister Frances, 21, married to William Man. Thomas was
> baptised 7th April, 1616. I hope this turns out to be your Thomas.
> Peter
>
> Brenda
> It is very likely that the Thomas that Arlan references is the one
> that you are looking for. If it is, he came on the ship with
> William Arnold and his family (including Benedict, first
> governor). We do not know the name of the ship. They arrived in
> Hingham MA and later joined up with Roger Williams coming to
> Providence. Thomas Hopkins was William Arnold's nephew, the son of
> William Hopkins and Joanna Arnold of Yeoville, Somersetshire. He
> was 19 at the time of his sailing which would fit with the birth
> date Arlan cites as well as the arrival in Providence. If he
> married Elizabeth Arnold it was not the one on the ship, who was
> married to William Carpenter. I will check out a few other sources
> when I have a moment. I hope this adds to your success.
> Peter Blackwell
>
> On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, rigenweb-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>
>
>>> From: Arlan Maguire <agmaguire2(a)cox.net>
>>> Sent: Mar 10, 2008 5:58 PM
>>> To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>>>
>>> Brenda, I found this note in "Immigrant Ancestors", it could be
>>> your Thomas,
>>> sorry but this is all that there is about him, it might be a lead
>>> though
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Hopkins, Thomas (1616-84), Eng. to Boston, c:1633; Settled in RI
>>> 1638;
>>> commr. at Providence member Town Council; dep. Gen. Assembly 1665; m
>>> Elizabeth ?."
>>>
Brenda
It is very likely that the Thomas that Arlan references is the one
that you are looking for. If it is, he came on the ship with
William Arnold and his family (including Benedict, first governor).
We do not know the name of the ship. They arrived in Hingham MA and
later joined up with Roger Williams coming to Providence. Thomas
Hopkins was William Arnold's nephew, the son of William Hopkins and
Joanna Arnold of Yeoville, Somersetshire. He was 19 at the time of
his sailing which would fit with the birth date Arlan cites as well
as the arrival in Providence. If he married Elizabeth Arnold it was
not the one on the ship, who was married to William Carpenter. I
will check out a few other sources when I have a moment. I hope
this adds to your success.
Peter Blackwell
On Mar 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, rigenweb-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>> From: Arlan Maguire <agmaguire2(a)cox.net>
>> Sent: Mar 10, 2008 5:58 PM
>> To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
>> Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>>
>> Brenda, I found this note in "Immigrant Ancestors", it could be
>> your Thomas,
>> sorry but this is all that there is about him, it might be a lead
>> though
>>
>>
>>
>> "Hopkins, Thomas (1616-84), Eng. to Boston, c:1633; Settled in RI
>> 1638;
>> commr. at Providence member Town Council; dep. Gen. Assembly 1665; m
>> Elizabeth ?."
>>
>>
>> Arlan Maguire
Nktown17(a)cox.net
Charlie C
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel(a)sympatico.ca>
To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: [RI] RI fun list
> When I recently tried to change servers, I lost all of my contacts.
> Would some of you kindly send your addresses to me again.
> Also lost the fun list.
>
> Thanks,
> Bonnie
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When I recently tried to change servers, I lost all of my contacts.
Would some of you kindly send your addresses to me again.
Also lost the fun list.
Thanks,
Bonnie
Hi Donna,
Which list are you referring to?
Fran Weeks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna Potter" <uriramfan(a)cox.net>
To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>; <behopkins1(a)earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
> Hi Brenda,
> I have the Great Migration on CD so will look for it later when I am at
> home. Speaking of migrations, have you considered posting to the other RI
> list as well since someone there may have done some hands on research on
> this line? Many of us oldies have "migrated" to the other RI list. Let me
> know if you need info on subbing to it.
> Donna in RI
>
> ---- behopkins1(a)earthlink.net wrote:
>> Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying
>> to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD,
>> believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings would
>> be greatly appreciated.
>> Brenda HOPKINS
>> Clackamas, OR
>>
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Brenda, I found this note in "Immigrant Ancestors", it could be your Thomas,
sorry but this is all that there is about him, it might be a lead though
"Hopkins, Thomas (1616-84), Eng. to Boston, c:1633; Settled in RI 1638;
commr. at Providence member Town Council; dep. Gen. Assembly 1665; m
Elizabeth ?."
Arlan Maguire
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel(a)sympatico.ca>
To: <uriramfan(a)cox.net>; <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
> Donna
> Don't bother,
> I just looked and he isn't there.
>
> Also went though the ship's list and he wasn't there.
>
> The Topographical Dictionary lists him, but not the ship he arrived on.
>
> Bonnie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna Potter" <uriramfan(a)cox.net>
> To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>; <behopkins1(a)earthlink.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>
>
>> Hi Brenda,
>> I have the Great Migration on CD so will look for it later when I am at
>> home. Speaking of migrations, have you considered posting to the other RI
>> list as well since someone there may have done some hands on research on
>> this line? Many of us oldies have "migrated" to the other RI list. Let
>> me
>> know if you need info on subbing to it.
>> Donna in RI
>>
>> ---- behopkins1(a)earthlink.net wrote:
>>> Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying
>>> to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD,
>>> believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings
>>> would
>>> be greatly appreciated.
>>> Brenda HOPKINS
>>> Clackamas, OR
>>>
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Thanks, all!
Brenda
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bonnie Weber <bonnie.travel(a)sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Mar 10, 2008 2:47 PM
>To: uriramfan(a)cox.net, rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>
>Donna
>Don't bother,
>I just looked and he isn't there.
>
>Also went though the ship's list and he wasn't there.
>
>The Topographical Dictionary lists him, but not the ship he arrived on.
>
>Bonnie
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Donna Potter" <uriramfan(a)cox.net>
>To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>; <behopkins1(a)earthlink.net>
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>
>
>> Hi Brenda,
>> I have the Great Migration on CD so will look for it later when I am at
>> home. Speaking of migrations, have you considered posting to the other RI
>> list as well since someone there may have done some hands on research on
>> this line? Many of us oldies have "migrated" to the other RI list. Let me
>> know if you need info on subbing to it.
>> Donna in RI
>>
>> ---- behopkins1(a)earthlink.net wrote:
>>> Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying
>>> to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD,
>>> believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings would
>>> be greatly appreciated.
>>> Brenda HOPKINS
>>> Clackamas, OR
>>>
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Thanks, Arlan and Donna,I appreciate the reference!
Brenda
Message-----
>From: Arlan Maguire <agmaguire2(a)cox.net>
>Sent: Mar 10, 2008 5:58 PM
>To: rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>
>Brenda, I found this note in "Immigrant Ancestors", it could be your Thomas,
>sorry but this is all that there is about him, it might be a lead though
>
>
>
>"Hopkins, Thomas (1616-84), Eng. to Boston, c:1633; Settled in RI 1638;
>commr. at Providence member Town Council; dep. Gen. Assembly 1665; m
>Elizabeth ?."
>
>
>Arlan Maguire
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel(a)sympatico.ca>
>To: <uriramfan(a)cox.net>; <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:47 PM
>Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>
>
>> Donna
>> Don't bother,
>> I just looked and he isn't there.
>>
>> Also went though the ship's list and he wasn't there.
>>
>> The Topographical Dictionary lists him, but not the ship he arrived on.
>>
>> Bonnie
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Donna Potter" <uriramfan(a)cox.net>
>> To: <rigenweb(a)rootsweb.com>; <behopkins1(a)earthlink.net>
>> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RI] Great Migration = HOPKINS
>>
>>
>>> Hi Brenda,
>>> I have the Great Migration on CD so will look for it later when I am at
>>> home. Speaking of migrations, have you considered posting to the other RI
>>> list as well since someone there may have done some hands on research on
>>> this line? Many of us oldies have "migrated" to the other RI list. Let
>>> me
>>> know if you need info on subbing to it.
>>> Donna in RI
>>>
>>> ---- behopkins1(a)earthlink.net wrote:
>>>> Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying
>>>> to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD,
>>>> believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings
>>>> would
>>>> be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Brenda HOPKINS
>>>> Clackamas, OR
>>>>
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Hi Brenda,
I have the Great Migration on CD so will look for it later when I am at home. Speaking of migrations, have you considered posting to the other RI list as well since someone there may have done some hands on research on this line? Many of us oldies have "migrated" to the other RI list. Let me know if you need info on subbing to it.
Donna in RI
---- behopkins1(a)earthlink.net wrote:
> Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD, believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings would be greatly appreciated.
> Brenda HOPKINS
> Clackamas, OR
>
> -------------------------------
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Does anyone have access to the Great Migration resource? I'm am trying to verify the arrival of Thomas HOPKINS and his wife, Elizabeth ARNOLD, believed to have arrived c. 1636 on the ship LYON to MA.Any citings would be greatly appreciated.
Brenda HOPKINS
Clackamas, OR
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