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My thanks to two Poythress-research "cousins" who found this and shared it
with me today. As one of the 2 sisters said in her email, Edna was "last
of John and Myla's kids left."
At the website of The Henderson [NC] Dispatch, the below obit was published
Weds 10 Apr 2013 [posted Apr. 09, 2013 @ 08:48 PM]:
Edna P. Pernell
HENDERSON [NC] Edna Poythress Pernell, 89, of 2240 U.S. 401 S.,
Warrenton, died Saturday, April 6, 2013, at a local nursing home.
Born in Franklin County [NC], she was the daughter of the late John
William Poythress and Myla Young Poythress. She was the widow of Perry
Mrs. Pernell was a retired owner and operator of Pernells Grocery
Store. She was a member of Sulphur Springs Baptist Church.
Funeral services were held Tuesday, April 9, 2013, at 2 p.m., at Flowers
Funeral Chapel, conducted by the Rev. Seth Miller and the Rev. Frank
Sossamon. Burial followed in Sunset Gardens.
Surviving are three sons, Raeford M. Pernell and wife, Margaret, of
Warrenton, Ronnie E. Pernell and wife, Gail, of Timberlake, and J. Kenneth
Pernell and wife, Dale, of Warrenton; 10 grandchildren; and 12
great-grandchildren. In addition to her husband, she was preceded in death
by two sisters, Gladys P. Beasley and Elizabeth P. Ayscue; and four
brothers, Forest Poythress, Fred Poythress, Raymond Poythress and Leon
The family received friends Monday, April 8, 2013, from 7-8:30 p.m., at
Flowers Funeral Home. All other times, they will be at the home, 2240 U.S.
401 S., Warrenton.
Grandsons will serve as active pallbearers.
In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made to Sulphur Springs Baptist
Church, 2493 US Hwy. 401 S., Warrenton, NC 27589.
Arrangements are by Flowers Funeral Home.
I must share with you this great website, at which there are many Poythress
burials in Brunswick County, Virginia (and of course many other related and
unrelated lines as well). The website has many, many cemeteries in the
county: church cemeteries, community cemeteries, & family cemeteries.
The site includes an Index of burials by surname, indicating at which
cemetery; an index of War Veterans (by war, and by surname, indicating at
which cemetery); a map of cemeteries and GPS coordinates for most (all?);
Instructions for Submitting Cemetery Transcriptions; and contact info on
the 2 fantastic people who began the site:
- John Pritchett handles updating the website. In 2000, he published a
great book, "Civil War Soldiers from Brunswick County, Virginia" and in
2007, a great CD digital-book in PDF format, "Southside Virginia
Genealogies" and he is the creator of an associated website. Though he
lives in Dallas, TX, he's devoted untold hours to Brunswick Co, VA. For
this Cemeteries of Brunswick Co, VA site, he has "identified many
cemeteries from online sources and from Civil War Soldiers of Brunswick
- Tracy Clary (resident of the county) "coordinates the collection of info
on family cemeteries in the county and has already located, transcribed,
and photographed dozens." The website's Contact page explains that "If you
have information about county cemeteries not included here, or would like
additional information about cemeteries already listed, please contact
Tracy Clary... a member of the Brunswick County Historical Society and Sons
of Confederate Veterans."
The website is www [dot] brunswickcemeteries [dot] org
Our sympathy to the family and friends of this fellow born in Wake Co, NC,
who died in GA:
As seen thanks to Legacy.com, and published in The News & Observer on Jan.
Edward Allen Poythress Jr.
The family of Edward Allen Poythress, Jr. announces his death on
December 22, 2005 due to natural causes after months of declining health.
Allen was born in Wake County on May 6, 1942 to the late Edward Allen
Poythress, Sr. and Rebecca Hodge Poythress.
SSDI for his father: Edward A Poythress, b.11 Jan 1911; d.27 Jan 1989; zip
of last residence 27545 (Knightdale, Wake Co, NC); SS iss in NC.
SSDI for the 2006 obit: Edward A Poythress, b.6 May 1942; d.22 Dec 2005;
zip of last residence 30016 (Covington, Newton Co, NC).
The marriage of his parents was indexed by FamilySearch.org:
NC Marriages 1759-1979 Indexed at FamilySearch lists the 1937 24 Dec
marriage of Edward A Poythress age 26 b.1911 at "Of Knightdale Rt.1" &
Rebecca L Hodge age 24 b.1913 at "Of Raleigh Rt.2" married 24 Dec 1937 at
Raleigh, Wake Co, NC; FHL film 236321 Wake Co, NC p.30-A; AND FHL film
Thanks, Stephen, for your Aunt's recollections about Annie Jane. It likely
was Annie Jane Poytress being honored by the US Navy (or perhaps even by
the CA state government, or the US Congress or President), rather than US
Army (unless in her Navy role her work also served Army soldiers).
Certainly nice to know of the additional honoring of Annie Jane by whoever,
and validation of her being unmarried. There were, by the way, other
members of their big Poytress family with markers one can see at
FindAGrave.com, by searching on just the surname, in CA, in Fresno County,
and by not putting in any years in the search. You may have noticed that
Annie Jane's brother 'Rod' (the last sibling to die; I posted his obit
last night) also had served in the US Navy, so apparently a strong family
tradition of service. His FindAGrave marker photo also shows his rank and
service in the US Navy.
Yes, many many small places across our country have been absorbed into the
larger towns around them. There is some place -- a USGS (US Geological
Survey) site I believe, where one can try to find earlier place names, as
well as locations of streams, rivers, mountains, cemeteries, etc. You may
wish to search further for American Colony in a simple google search, but
at any rate having seen that name in the later obit I posted last night, is
assurance there was such a place -- maybe just the then-name of some
housing/farming development or whatever.
Just for info: now that you are subscribed to the Poythress List, you & I
do not need to put each others' email address in the "To" box of an email
being sent to the List. To do so is needless duplication. For example, I
did not add yours in the "To" box of the messages I sent last night, or
today, We'll each get all the List emails, as will all the other
Thanks again for your Aunt's further info. I hope to read a transcription
of Annie Jane Poytress' newspaper clipping your family has.
Thanks to Legacy.com, we know this obituary of Roderick John 'Rod'
Poythress, was published in the "Fresno Bee" newspaper on June 17, 2003,
courtesy of LISLE FUNERAL HOME, 1605 "L" Street, Fresno, CA, phone 266-0666:
RODERICK JOHN POYTRESS "Rod" Sept 18, 1919 - Jun 13, 2003 Rod is the
eldest son of a pioneer Fresno County family and the last surviving sibling
of eight children born to J.A. Poytress and Annie Hopkins. Rod was a
life-long farmer, first with his brother John on the family farm until 1962
and then as superintendant for MacCarthy Farms. At one time he helped to
oversee more than 100,000 acres of farming and farm development land. Many
changes occured in farming during his life. He was one of the last
operations to employ draft horses. His career saw the development of highly
mechanized harvest equipment to which he had considerable imput. A veteran
of WWII, he flew both PBY's and Navy fighters continuing to fly well into
his 60's. He was also an avid outdoorsman, and he loved to fish and hunt.
Rod is survived by his wife of 54 years, Eva (Hamilton); sons, Russell and
Hal. His family also including eight grandchildren, and two
great-gandchildren. He was pre- deceased by all of his brothers and
sisters, and a stepson, Randal Mason. Visitation will be held at the Lisle
Funeral Home on Wednesday, June 18, 2003, from 2:00 pm. to 7:00 pm. A
Graveside Service will be at Washington Colony Cemetery, on Thursday, June
19, 2003, at 1:00 pm. A Memorial Service will be held at Easton
Presbyterian Church at 2:00 pm. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made
to the Easton Presbyterian Church, 5895 S. Elm Ave., Easton, CA 93706.
I've just noticed that indeed the extensive quote of John A Poytress'
biography, shown at his FindAGrave.com Memorial (quoted from Vandor's 1919
book on the history of Fresno Co, CA), indeed mentions "American Colony."
So even though American Colony shows up via a google map search as a
location in CA, it apparently was back then.
Here is the FindAGrave Memorial listing for John A Poytress:
For John A Poytress, Find A Grave Memorial# 76168475 was created by Larry
Moore & posted 8 Sep 2011.
FindAGrave.com shows him as: John A Poytress, b.10 Mar 1871
Gloucestershire, England; d.15 Feb 1940; buried in block 3 of Washington
Colony Cemetery, Fresno, Fresno Co, CA. A photo of his double-marker at the
cemetery [transcribed here from the photo] reads: POYTRESS / John A, Mar.
10, 1871 - Feb. 15, 1940 [and] Ellen A, Oct.17, 1877 - May 20, 1936.
This Memorial has Family links for him to 2 spouses:
- [his first wife] Mary Wells Poytress (1868 - 1907)* [The * indicates
this was a Calculated relationship], and
- [erroneously, in spite of the above double-marker for him, the
Memorial indicates his other spouse as Annie Jane Hopkins Poytress (1913 -
1980) who is actually daughter Annie Jane Poytress from John A Poytress'
2nd marriage to Ellen Annie nee Hopkins; the Memorial's creator apparently
confused info of the mother and daughter]
This Memorial quotes the below-copied extensive section [attributed
as] 1919 biography for John from The History of Fresno County by Paul E
"JOHN A. POYTRESS A splendid example of manhood who is pleased to
devote his energy and time towards the development and building up of
Fresno County is J. A. Poytress, who was born in Gloucester, England, March
10, 1871, the fourth oldest of a family of seven children born to John and
Mary Ann Cooper, farmers in Gloucestershire, England. His father died in
1909 while the mother died in 1910. Mr. Poytress' father met with reverses,
so when ten years of age, J. A. began working out on farms to assist his
parents. However, he received a good education in the local schools. He
read of the wonders of California and was attracted by the pportunities
that awaited young men without capital but willing to work.
"He selected Fresno, arriving in June, 1891, a stranger in a strange
land. He found employment on a farm at Easton and applied himself
energetically to his work. In September, 1893, he was married at Easton to
Miss Mary Wells who was born near Birmingham, Worcestershire, England a
daughter of Francis Wells, a well-to-do farmer. After his marriage Mr.
Poytress engaged in viticulture and horticulture as well as teaming, a
business he has continued ever since. He purchased twenty acres of his
present ranch in 1897 and now has eighty-five acres in a body, which he has
set and reset to vineyard though a part is in orchard of peaches and
apricots. His vineyard is well selected. Thompson seedless and Muscat
raisins. He sees it is well cared for and it is the consensus of opinion
that he has one of the finest vineyards in the county, his place being
located on West Avenue and Lincoln, about seven miles southwest of Fresno.
Mr. Poytress also owns a 320-acre ranch one and one-half miles southeast of
his home ranch which he devotes to raising alfalfa and dairying, his herd
of cows being high-grade Holsteins. He is also raising draft horses, Mr.
Poytress being interested in a company that owns an imported Percheron
Norman or French draft stallion. He also owns a ranch of sixty acres at
Caruthers. He is a firm believer in cooperation and has been a member of
the different fruit associations, being an active member of the California
Associated Raisin Company and the California Peach Growers, Inc.
"He is a stockholder, director and treasurer of the Danish Creamery
Association, having formerly been president of it for one year. He has been
an active and prominent member of the Fresno County Farm Bureau since its
organization as well as one of the original directors. He is the
representative of the stock industry of the county and is chairman of the
boys' pig club work.
"He is also a director in the Fresno District Fair Association. Mr.
Poytress is intensely interested in advancing the cause of education,
having been a member of the American Colony school district for seventeen
years, and a trustee of the Washington Union High School for the past
eighteen years and the clerk of the board for nine years. Prominent in Y.
M. C. A. work he is Fresno County committeeman since the association was
organized in Fresno and is chairman of the Boys' Summer Camp Committee. Mr.
Poytress' first wife died in 1908 leaving him a daughter, Eleanor Mary.
"He was married a second time in Fresno to Miss Annie Hopkins who was
born in Gloucester, England, and they have five children : Phyllis, Ethel,
Annie Jane, Dorothy Dean, and Roderick. Mr. Poytress is an active member of
the Methodist Episcopal Church at Easton, being chairman of its Board of
Trustees, and was superintendent of the Sunday School for nine years. He
visited his parents at the old home in England in 1905 and again in 1908.
Fraternally he is a member of the Fraternal Brotherhood at Easton. Full of
patriotism for his adopted country Mr. Poytress was active in the different
war and liberty loan drives, being local chairman of the Y. M. C. A., Red
Cross and United War Work drives, in all of which he did valiant work."
Stephen & all (Note: at the bottom, here, is Stephen's email today which
he's asked me to include in my email to our Poythress List)
FindAGrave.com lists "CDR Annie Jane [with an italicized name of
Hopkins] Poytress" as b.25 Jul 1913 Gloucestershire, England; d.16 Nov
1980; buried in block 3 of Washington Colony Cemetery, Fresno, Fresno Co,
CA. That Memorial has a link to John A Poytress (1871-1940), as having
been calculated by the Memorial creator as being her spouse [sic]. An
attached photo of her US veterans marker was added by the creator of her
Memorial. The marker bears a Christian cross, and the inscription reads
Annie Jane Poytress; CDR US Navy, WWII Korea Vietnam; Jul 25 1913 - Nov 16
1980. Her Memorial # 76168453 was created by Larry Moore & posted 8 Sep
Re that Memorial for Annie Jane Poytress (1913-1980):
- Contrary to the way you phrased your question (below), at the top of her
Memorial page, there is no hyphen between "Hopkins" and "Poytress" on her
name. The name "Hopkins" is shown in italics -- at FindAGrave, italicizing
a name in that position (prior to the final surname), is normally used to
indicate that the person posting the Memorial has concluded the italicized
name was the woman's maiden name.
HOWEVER, I'm confident that "Hopkins" was erroneously added to her name,
and that the link to John A Poytress as her "spouse" was an erroneous
conclusion. From the dates Annie Jane Poytress lived, this is the daughter
of Ellen Annie nee Hopkins, who had married John A Poytress. And actually
at John's linked FindAGrave Memorial, the same creator has posted a photo
of his double gravemarker, showing his [2nd] wife as "Ellen A, born Oct 17,
1877, died May 20, 1936." Both FindAGrave links [at John A Poytress'
Memorial, and at Annie Jane Poytress' Memorial] should show John A
Poytress was Annie Jane Poytress' father.
AND I'm confident the Memorial creator listed her as having been born in
Gloucestershire erroneously, from conflating info about her mother with
Annie Jane, too.
At the linked-to-Annie Jane FindAGrave Memorial for John A Poytress
(1871-1940), the double marker for him shows his wife as Ellen A who lived
1877-1936. The extensive write-up for him, quoting Vandor's 1919 History
of Fresno County, mentions in part re his 2nd marriage:
"He was married a second time in Fresno to Miss Annie Hopkins who was
born in Gloucester, England, and they have five children : Phyllis, Ethel,
Annie Jane, Dorothy Dean, and Roderick."
So if this was correct in the county history book published in 1919,
indicating his 2nd wife as "Miss" then we know she was not previously
married. As far as whether Ellen Annie Hopkins (also simply known by her
middle name of Annie) was truly in her 1st versus 2nd marriage with John A
Poytress, I'll remind you that I indicated the Census-taker could simply
have filled in the wrong number in that block. I think that's far more
likely, since the county history referred to her as "Miss."
The 3rd child listed for Ellen Annie/Annie Ellen and John Poytress at his
FindAGrave Memorial (in the above quote from Vandor's book), is the
above-mentioned Annie Jane Poytress; from her gravemarker not showing a
different married surname, we can conclude that US Naval Commander Annie
Jane Poytress likely never married.
This fits with the 1920 Fresno Co, CA Census (within a year of the 1919
publication of Vandor's county history), listing John A's household with
wife "Ellen" age 42, born in England, who immigrated and was Naturalized in
1909; their children in the Census household are shown as Phyllis, age 9,
born CA; Ethel, age 7, born CA; Annie, age 6, born CA; Dorothy, age 4,
born CA; and Roderick, age 3 months, born CA. For all 5 of these children
it shows both parents were born in England. That Census indicates John A
came to America in 1893 and his wife Ellen came in 1909.
Second, re the abbreviation "CDR" at Annie Jane Poytress' FindAGrave
Memorial -- that stands for Commander, which is a good rank in the US
Navy. The photo of her marker shows clearly that she served in the US Navy
during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. While our US Army WWII Enlistment
Records have been indexed on the internet, the only US Navy records I note
for the WWII era (1942-1945) at our National Archives, pertain only to duty
locations for US Navy Intelligence Personnel. It is far more likely she
was in the medical area than the intelligence area. One other site, the
WWII Memorial Online Registry, could conceivably have been of help
regarding the WWII time-period of her military service, however no family
member has honored her by listing her there, with any info such a family
member might have about her WWII service.
You mention that your family's clipped newspaper obituary from that time,
also refers to "Mrs Ellen Annie Poytress". If you would be so kind as to
fully transcribe in a separate email to our Poythress List, that obituary,
it would be a great service to us and to future researchers. I'll be
curious to see whether it mentions "American Colony" since when I saw the
name of the cemetery where she and John A Poytress are buried is
"Washington Colony Cemetery" made me ponder that perhaps your Aunt may have
mis-remembered the name as "American" Colony, instead of "Washington"
Colony. While I could find no Google Map listings for American Colony in
CA, they show that in Fresno, there are locations named Washington Colony
Cemetery; Washington Colony canal; and Washington Colony Elementary
I don't have any info regarding a maiden-named woman Olive Poytress who
married a man surnamed Goode, from anything I've previously noted. If you
haven't already searched for more on her at FamilySearch.org, I'd suggest
you do so, using Mr Goode's first name, too, if you have it. Sometimes a
marriage record for the couple can include the names of the parents of both
bride and groom, depending on when and where they married. I'd also
suggest if you come back with more about them, you use a caption to your
email indicating "Olive Poytress & [whoever] Goode" rather than combining
info about them with an email covering John A Poytress.
Your questions about who paid passage for people coming to America could
possibly be answered if you can locate US Naturalization records, whether
at FamilySearch, or at Ellis Island in NY, or wherever. My own
recollection from earlier in the 1800s, is that anyone coming here had to
have at least a certain amount of money with them, and/or cite the name of
a sponsor, since the country did not want completely indigent people with
no prospect of help, coming in.
Re what birth, marriage, census, and other UK records exist -- I've never
researched in UK records, so
don't know how extensive the holdings of UK records at FamilySearch may
be. A woman I met yesterday mentioned that she has done extensive UK
research on her own family lines thru UK websites of your UK institutions
over there, so likely a search on "Kew" or whatever your archives is, will
likely reveal some great places for you to search for UK records.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:11 AM, S C Hawksworth Ltd <
[indicating a few moments later that he had forgotten to copy our
Poythress List, and asking I do so]
Thank you for your earlier answers. There are now some new queries that
have cropped up and I wondered if you could shed any light on them?
Is there an archived Birth Certificate, or Census, for John Albert
when he was in UK?
Annie Hopkins came from Staunton - is there any confirmation of Annie
being married before (as mentioned in 1910 Census?) If so, to whom?
Whilst the 1910 Census refers to "Annie Hopkins" the web pictures of
the gravestone have "Ellen A Poytress". This is the Annie that died in the
car accident in 1936 - my Aunt remembers, vividly, attending the funeral.
The newspaper cutting my family has from that time, also refers to "Mrs
Ellen Annie Poytress".
The Web has a photo of the gravestone of CDR Annie Jane
Hopkins-Poytress. My Aunt remembers Annie Jane. Why was there a double
surname? The Web photo refers to the birth being at Gloucester. At the date
of 25 July 1913, John and Annie were married and living in American
Colony(?) - is it a mistake on the Web, or is Gloucester correct?
I think my Aunt once said CDR Annie Jane was in the US Army Medical
Corps and Honoured For Her Services To The Nation. (I cannot find anything
written down in my notes to substantiate this.) Are there any details of
the military role and of any awards?
I have become aware of a further Poytress connection with the
Hawksworth family; My grandfather, Wesley, had a brother William
Hawksworth. William married Elsie Goode in California circa 1922. Elsie
Goode's mother was Olive Goode (nee Poytress). I am assuming Elsie had gone
to California at either Olive's or John Albert's invitation and, when
there, met her future husband? Who was Olive, and how does she fit into the
I have become aware that John Albert may have been paying the travel
costs incurred in emigrating from UK to join his workforce in California.
Might this be correct? Is there any archived reference to this?
I look forward to your response.
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