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I'm switching from my earlier email address of bp_neal(a)earthlink.net to this
If you wish to send me messages off-list, please use the new address.
Barbara Poythress Neal (or BPN)
>From Dick Eastman's newsletter:
April 10, 2008
Potentially Fraudulent Sites Posing as Genealogy Websites
Writing in the Ancestry.com blog, Mike Ward is warning other genealogists of fraudulent web sites posing as genealogy sites. These sites take your credit card information and provide little in return.
We have recently become aware of three websites purporting to allow family history research: SearchYourGenealogy.com, Ancestry-search.com and Australian-Ancestry.com. The sites claim to have “the largest online genealogical search tool” and promote themselves as the foremost resources for genealogy, but from what we can tell, these sites are nothing more than a series of web pages with links to other services. These sites, in our opinion, are clearly fraudulent.
On each site, potential customers are lured to purchase under what we feel to be false, misleading and deceitful promotional material, and get little or no value out of money spent at the websites. Blog and message board posts from the community confirm this opinion.
You can read Mike's entire article at http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2008/04/10/potentially-fraudulent-site...
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With thanks to the VA-Southside List, below is helpful info from the Charles City County GenWeb site coordinator, which she notes may apply to other VA counties' sites, too.
Sent: Apr 7, 2008 7:44 PM
Subject: [VA-SOUTHSIDE] VAGenWeb on a new server
I haven't seen a message about this, so I wanted to let others know that
VAGenWeb has moved to another server, away from Rootsweb. Some individual
county pages have chosen to stay with Rootsweb, but a good number have moved.
I just took over Charles City County and set up a new design, etc., as I
moved it to the new server. I am updating the old website material before
transferring it. Then I can start adding new things to it.
If you have favorite VAGenWeb counties, Southside or otherwise, which are
bookmarked, you may want to update those bookmarks.
VAGenWeb is now located at:
with links to the counties further down the page.
County Coordinator, Charles City County VAGenWeb
Much thanks to Al Tims for posting Bob Smith's inquiry to our Poythress List of Poythress researchers, and especially MUCH thanks to Bob Smith, who inquired of Al about Bob's wife's ancestor Willis Portress (b. April 1798 in VA; d. Jan 1876 Giles County, Tennessee).
Bob: back in Nov 2002, I had found much info about Willis Poythress and his wife Rebecca Brown, and posted it to our Poythress List of researchers. The info I found was in five Brown Chancery Court Cases filed between Brown family members regarding estate matters in Brunswick County, VA. You can locate my transcriptions of them in our List's message archives, along with feedback from our other researchers.
To search our message archives, go to:
and click on the Advanced Search tab. There put Willis Poythress in the first box for finding that name in the "Body" of the messages, and be sure to put Poythress in the "List" box, so you're only searching our Poythress List's messages.
In those transcriptions, I noted that I found the Poythress name (also spelled Portress, as well as Portrice & Poytress & Poythress in these records) shows up in all 5 of these cases because of Rebecca Brown. Thus these cases give support to Portress being an alternate spelling of Poythress, or vice versa.
>From these 5 Brown Chancery cases, we learn she was a daughter of Richardson Brown, who died sometime not long before 22 Nov 1823, and that she was a niece of John Brown, who died some time after he signed his Will in November 1827. Rebecca was married to Willis Poythress. Rebecca and Willis were already married prior to the first Chancery case in 1824. (Vogt's book of Brunswick Co, VA Marriages lists a marriage record for Willis Poythress and Polly Brown on 15 Dec 1821 in Brunswick Co, VA, with John Brown as the bondsman.)
I have a couple of question for you, Bob:
(1) Can you please share with me how you know the exact sources for Willis Portress' birth and death dates?
(2) In Giles County, TN, in any work on your wife's ancestry, I would appreciate learning if you by any chance have seen a Jones Preston (who was born in Brunswick Co, VA 7 Sep 1795, and who married a Rebecca Sargett or Suggett on 1 Jan 1817 in Brunswick Co, VA. She was attested to be of age by James Webb).
Jones Preston died in Tennessee 4 March 1850. Jones Preston was the eldest brother of Catherine Preston; she married James Edward Poythress. Catherine was born 20 Jan 1800 in Brunswick Co, VA; James Edward Poythress was born 13 Aug 1803 in adjacent Mecklenburg Co, VA; they married in Brunswick Co, VA in Feb 1828. The above birth info for Jones Preston comes from their Preston and Poythress family Bible-type record, a copy of which is available online in the Bible records at the Library of Virginia, as Accession number 34866. Catherine & James Edward Poythress are my great-great-grandparents and I have a good amount of info on Jones and Catherine Preston's parents & more.
Since so many people migrated from Virginia to other places in groups of families and friends, it seems possible that Willis Poythress/Portress and Jones Preston (near the same age) both went to Tennessee either in the same group, or to the same area thanks to family and friends they shared.
Hope the Chancery Court case transcriptions, and our Poythress List's other messages about Willis Poythress, will be of interest to you. I look forward to hearing any response from you.
Wishing you all the best in your research, and hoping to hear back from you, whether to me individually, or to our Poythress List (to which you can subscribe if you wish, at our website www.poythress.net). Thank you again for reaching out to our administrator Al Tims with your query.
Barbara Poythress Neal
>From: Albert Tims <atims(a)comcast.net>
>Sent: Apr 2, 2008 11:11 PM
>To: Poythress List <poythress(a)rootsweb.com>
>Subject: [POYTHRESS] Fwd: Willis Portress
>Begin forwarded message:
>> From: "Bob Smith" <Re-Tired-01(a)austin.rr.com>
>> Date: April 1, 2008 8:23:28 AM CDT
>> To: <POYTHRESS-admin(a)rootsweb.com>
>> Subject: Willis Portress
>> Reply-To: "Bob Smith" <re-tired-01(a)austin.rr.com>
>> My wife is a descendent of Willis Portress b: April 1798 in Va; d:
>> Jan 1876 Giles County, Tennessee. I saw a note on the RootsWeb
>> bulletin board that the Portress name may be a variation of
>> Poythress. Do you have any information to support this?
>> Bob Smith
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Bob Smith" <Re-Tired-01(a)austin.rr.com>
> Date: April 1, 2008 8:23:28 AM CDT
> To: <POYTHRESS-admin(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: Willis Portress
> Reply-To: "Bob Smith" <re-tired-01(a)austin.rr.com>
> My wife is a descendent of Willis Portress b: April 1798 in Va; d:
> Jan 1876 Giles County, Tennessee. I saw a note on the RootsWeb
> bulletin board that the Portress name may be a variation of
> Poythress. Do you have any information to support this?
> Bob Smith
I forgot to assure you that the Huntington Library stated they held no further Poythress documents, and no further documents in this case (which they noted was not unusual for the Brock Collection was composed of many single-items having nothing to do with each other).
The document listed in Beverley Fleet's "Virginia Colonial Abstracts" as being a miscellaneous file composed of 3 leaves in the Brock Collection, "having Francis Poythress' Answer to Bill of Complaint brought by John Allen, 1738/39 January 27, BR (Brock Collection), Box 256" is a document that I obtained a photocopy of, for my research. Under the restrictions of obtaining that copy, I am now sending a letter to The Huntington Library asking for permission to publish my transcription of the entire 3 leaves. If that permission is granted, I will let you know further.
In the meantime under the restrictions, I cannot quote from the document. I can, and I do here below, further describe what was going on, as shown by the document's many run-on sentences.
I recall reading that the Library of Virginia has microfilm copies of the documents contained in the Brock Collection, so anyone wishing to examine the 3 leaves can do so there. Today I was unsuccessful in locating the exact reference in the LVA collections listing online, to the Brock Collection, mainly because LVA holds so much from Brock.
Also, please be aware that while I was in Richmond last May, at the Library of Virginia Archival Manuscripts room, I sought any further documents in this case, which would have logically been handled by the Chancery Court for Prince George County, Virginia. I was assured by the archivist that no further documents of the apparent suit have been located. This is not surprising, since few Prince George documents survive.
In looking at at Prince George County, VA's extant records abstracted by Benjamin Weisiger, we already know that William Poythress and Francis Poythress were executors for John Fitzgerald, deceased, and that various entries were made in the PG Co Minute Books regarding their efforts to collect on debts that were owed to Fitzgerald when he died. The 3 leaves in this document show further background on Fitzgerald's situation.
The easier leaf of these three leaves, is just a small slip of paper, apparently written by and signed by Francis Poythress on 11 May 1736 directing Colonel John Allen to pay 80 lbs of tobacco to Captain Avent.
The other two pages (apparently front & back of the same sheet) are on legal-size paper and are closely covered with small clerkly-looking handwriting in one long 2-page document. Per the bottom of the second side, it was copied by the Clerk of the Court for Prince George Co, VA. Thus this longer document is not in Francis' handwriting, and indeed the handwriting is different from that on the above-mentioned small slip of paper.
This longer document is, as Beverley Fleet noted, the answer of Francis Poythress to a Bill of Complaint brought against him by John Allen, a gentleman. It was sworn to in PG Co Court on 27 January 1738/39.
In his answer, Francis explained that in 1725 Allen (the complainant), Nathaniel Harrison Esquire, Philip Ludwell Esquire, and William Edwards, a gentleman, became partners trading in tobacco and other commodities. They sent for various merchandise from Great Britain and employed John Fitzgerald as factor to sell and buy for them. Soon afterward, Fitzgerald purchased Edwards' share. Ludwell's share was purchased by a London merchant, James Bradley (who was by 1738/39 deceased). Fitzgerald, Bradley, Harrison, and Allen (the complainant) carried on the trade for some years.
In Oct 1732 Fitzgerald died without leaving any acounting to John Allen (the complainant). William Poythress and Francis Poythress were appointed Fitzgerald's executors. Fitzgerald was described in the document as being uncle and good friend of Francis Poythress. No relationship was spelled out between William Poythress and either Francis Poythress or John Fitzgerald.
Francis was aware that Fitzgerald owed Bradley in England. Francis wanted Allen to advise Bradley to place an agreed-upon allowance between Allen and the other partners to the credit of Fitzgerald's account for such debts that Francis should receive collection for. Francis expected no reward for his trouble beyond his expenses, and he expected only a usual commission, but he never promised he'd be able to collect all the outstanding debts. Francis collected many debts; he assured that he had not been guilty of neglect; and he assured that he'd always been willing to settle Allen's account.
Thanks to Dick Eastman's genealogy newsletter posting of March 29, 2008 for the following info:
March 29, 2008
Arlene Eakle’s Virginia Genealogy Blog
Arlene Eakle is a prolific genealogy writer with more than 90 titles completed. She has been writing a general-purpose genealogy blog at http://www.arleneeakle.com/wordpress for nearly two years now. Now Arlene has started a Virginia genealogy blog.
Arlene is an expert in tracing ancestors from the Southern States, including the Appalachian Triangle – southwest Virginia, northeast North Carolina, southeast Kentucky, and east Tennessee. She is also the president and founder of The Genealogical Institute, Inc., and a professional genealogist since 1962. She holds both MA and Ph.D. degrees in English History from the University of Utah and an Associate degree in Nursing from Weber State University. She was one of the founders and original trustees of the Association of Professional Genealogists, serving as president from 1980 to1982 and as editor of the APG Newsletter and Green Sheet from 1982 to1985.
Arlene’s new Virginia Genealogy blog is off to a great start. Some of the articles posted there include:
Virginia Tax and Rent Rolls: A Checklist of Evidence
Are your Virginia Ancestors Scots or Scots-Irish?
Tuckahoes and Cohees/Cohoes: The Scots-Irish, Ulster Scots, Anglo Scots, Ulster Irish
More Virginia Legalities that Affect your Genealogy Success!
The Four Goff Brothers of Western Virginia: A New Perspective on their Lives
Arlene Eakle’s Virginia Genealogy Research Notebooks
Virginia Origins in Southwestern England?
“Virginia is for Lovers” of genealogy…
If you have an interest in Virginia Genealogy, you will want to add Arlene Eakle’s Virginia Genealogy blog to your reading list. Go to: http://virginiagenealogyblog.com.
Posted by Dick Eastman on March 29, 2008
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