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Nice to hear from you, Sandy. I’ll take a stab at your question with full knowledge that what I have is bound to disappoint you. Maybe a piece or two of it will help even if it is rank speculation.
To my knowledge, the parents of Charles Poythress are not known. He indeed married Catharine Crawford 2 April 1739 and died in 1763.
The rest of this I will try to pull out of a swamp which is the Dinwiddie Clerk’s 1763
fee book which is attached. [Those on the Poythress mailing list will not get this as rootsweb doesn’t process attachments; if any of you don’t already have a copy and want one just let me know].
The introduction to this document is self-explanatory but from these bare bones I’ll make some shaky assumptions:
* I would guess that Charles died intestate. Why? Because the Clerk’s book is chock full of requests for document copies referring to a Chancery case post dating Charles’ death. There is one mention of a will but I’m inclined to discount it. Chancery cases often follow like clockwork when an individual with property dies intestate.
* As executors, Woodlief and Cryer appear to be right in the middle of it all along with
both a Francis and a John Poythress. Premier Poythress researcher Bolling Batte identifies a
John as a son of Charles (“among” his children) with no mention of a Francis. However, given
that a Francis is mixed up in the requests for Chancery records I would not rule out that he
was a son of Charles. Additionally, Claiborne family figures appear in the clerk’s book connected
to Charles. As for son John, he seems to be the grandson of Elizabeth Anderson and is covered
in her will of
9 Oct 1759
Will of Elizabeth Anderson, Chesterfield County, VA, 9 Oct 1759 (book I)
Will of Elizabeth Anderson of Dale Parish
To daughter Elizabeth Crowley, 1 negro
To grandson John Poythress, 1 mulatto, and if he dies without heirs, then to my son Claiborne Anderson.
To grandson John Anderson, 1 mulatto, and if he dies with out heirs, then to my son Claiborne Anderson.
Rest of estate to my son Claiborne Anderson.
Dated 9 Oct 1759
Wit: Henry Hamton, James Waldrop, John Waldrop, Penellope Parrot.
The Dinwiddie clerk’s document is attached. Good luck.
Also, Charles appears in Chesterfield County records as immediately below but I don’t have him in Dinwiddie records which is no particular surprise inasmuch as Dinwiddie records are tough to come by.
Sept 1761 (order)
p. 381, Received of Mrs. Elizabeth Anderson, widow and late Adm’x of Ralph Crawford, dec’d ,
4 negroes: Tom, Sue, Betty and Grissel; on account of my marrying 1 his daughter Elizabeth.
10 April 1739.
Wit: Geo. Robertson, Min., James Mitcheal, Charles Poythress.
Signed: Henry Anderson Recorded Sept. 1761
Poythres, Francis…listed in Chesterfield tithables 1762. (loose papers of Chesterfield County)
Jan 1762 (order)
p. 382, A marriage is intended between Charles Poythress and Catherine Crawford, and this is
an agreement between them. It is agreed that the negroes Jack, Abram, Tom, Nanny, Lett,
Sarah, Jenny, Bess and Hilly, which belong to said Catherine, will remain her own property.
Henrico County, April 9, 1739.
Wit: James Mitchael, Henry Anderson, John (I) Old.
Signed: Charles Poythress, Catherine Crawforth (sic)
Recorded Jan, 1762.
A Charles Poythress patents 300 acres on Butterwood Swamp (in Prince George County)
on 20 August 1745. Given a marriage date of 1739 and a death date of 1763 it would
suggest that the Charles of this query could easily be the same man.
►20 Aug 1745- Charles Poythress [search: Charles Poythress]
Dat 20 Aug 1745
frm William Gooch, Lt. Governor
to Charles Poythress
re 300a on the lower side of the Oldfield Branch of Butterwood
loc -18137 -45746 F127 L0 P255
pt Oldfield Branch. where Francis Coleman's Land Crosses the same
ln E11N; 198P; along Francis Coleman's Line
pt Coleman's corner. Hiccory
ln E11N; 42P;
pt Lightwood Knot by the side of a small Branch between several
! trees faces Inwards
ln N11W; 200P;
pt Corner at a Lightwood Knott between several Trees chopt inwards
! in an open place on the upper side of the Beach Branch
ln W11S; 237P;
pt the Oldfield Branch
lm ; ; down Oldfield Branch
Sandy, if any of this in combination with your research leads you to Charles’ line either before or
after, I would very much appreciate your sharing it. Also, I would hope that others on the Poythress
web might have some contributions for us.
(John M. Poythress)
<g> You're spot on, Lou. I like it because I'll only need to apply my
personal "spam filters" once instead of three times....and one can get to some "cited"
stuff occasionally. One's own spam filter? I guess you
work up your own. Any GEDCOM with "Plantaganet" in it is bound to be
phoney and needs pitching, etc. etc. Now I'll catch hell from a
Plantaganet descendant <g>.
From: poythress-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [POYTHRESS] Jackpot!
Well, I hate to be the spoil sport, but there's both good news and bad
news here. The good news, of course, is that eventually all this data
will be made available on-line.
The bad news is that all this data will soon be on-line and all the
bad genealogies that are in these collections will be propagated far
and wide. I've recently been going through a lot of these old
published genealogies that can only be had from the LDS on microfiche,
and some of them are truly awful (and wrong, wrong, wrong!). I really
wonder whether the world of genealogy is getting better or worse with
everything that one will find on-line on the Internet, but at this
time will opt for opining that it is getting worse - much worse. This
kind of thing just encourages the folks I will call the Internet
scavengers to never even attempt to research primary records to check
if published genealogies can be trusted. (Spoken by one who seems to
have spent the last five years or so debunking family genealogies that
have been published.)
My 2-cents worth...
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Thanks Pat & Neil Poythress for alerting me to this. If any of our
subscribers are relatives of Jack, please accept my condolensces.
Coincidentally, while I was in Richmond in May, at the Library of
Virginia, I saw a reference to Jack while looking in the Manuscripts
Bolling Batte Papers: Poythress Family (Box 18)
In Box 18, Folder 6 (which folder has Batte's various collected/research
notes regarding Poythresses of Mecklenburg Co, VA), I saw Batte's
handwritten notation that read:
"Poythress family in South Hill, 1964
Picture of Jack Poythress, a policeman
in South Hill Enterprise
13 Aug 1964"
I do not know who the parents of this Jack Poythress were, and if any of
you can tell me, I'd sure appreciate knowing.
= = =
VaNcNews.com "Community News of Virginia and North Carolina"
Friday, August 31, 2007
Last modified Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:36 PM EDT
Jackson L. Poythress
Jackson Lee "Jack" Poythress, 72 of South Hill died Saturday, August 25,
2007 at his residence. He was a former Chief of Police for the Town of
South Hill and a golf course superintendent for South Hill Country Club
and Tanglewood Shores
He is survived by his wife Geneva G. Poythress, three sons; Gary L.
Poythress and wife Lori of Chester, Ronnie J. Poythress of Raleigh and
Scott G. Poythress and wife Saskia of Lake Anna, Va., three sisters;
Bernice Puryear of South Hill, Betty Reamey and Margaret Parker both of
Colonial Heights, five grandchildren and one great grandchild.
A graveside funeral service was conducted Tuesday in Crestview Memorial
Memorial contributions may be made to the Community Memorial Hospice,
P. O. Box 90, South Hill, VA 23970. Online condolences may be sent to
I am seeking some help with identifying the Charles Poythress who
died ca 1763 in Dinwiddie County. I am not aware of him leaving a
will, but Peter Woodlief (Sr) and William Cryer/Cryor served as
executors of his estate.
I gather from the research of Michael Tutor, as posted to this list,
that Charles was married in 1739 to Catharine Crawforth/Crawford, d/o
Elizabeth Claiborne & Ralph Crawforth/Crawford.
Who were the children of this Charles Poythress? Might he have had a
And, are the parents of this Charles Poythress known?
Thanks so much for any help.
15 August 2007
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SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH- Thousands of published family histories, city and county histories,
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FamilySearch's Family History Library in Salt Lake City announced the joint project today.
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Hi Judy. Thank you for letting us know about Nell. So sorry for your loss as
well as the loss to the Tims Family. Thoughts and prayers are sent to all.
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> Subject: [POYTHRESS] Nell Tims
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