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Serendipity is such a wonderful thing.
But as was quoted to me recently, apparently from a church billboard, "How
can you expect your ship to come in, if you have never sent one out."
You clearly earned this one.
But for those of us in other branches of the Poythress family, would you be
so kind at some point to present this John C. Poythress in an outline of
I'm trying to compile data on various branches, and that would be helpful.
Any of you Gilliam folks want to pick this one up have at it. With this
guy's demanding tone I wouldn't even lean over my PC to peek at my Batte
chart but I doubt if I have anything for him anyway. I'm sure one of you is
just dying to round up those maps for him.....and gee, he'll pay the postage.
What a champ. But, he just may have something a Gilliam researcher wants so
I'll leave that to your discretion.
Subj: John Gilliam & Elizabeth Poythress
Date: 11/27/00 12:22:27 AM Eastern Standard Time
From: armesco(a)velocity.net (Herb Armes)
Hi: can you help me with this family:
John Gilliam (Gilham-Gillam) b. 1712 possibly Prince George Co. VA.
Elizabeth Poythress. Any info. on their parents: who, where resided
prior 1712. Can you send me an exact map location for Isbell's tract.
John was grantor of a deed 1761 in P.G. co. land located next to
Isbell's tract. I sure could use a county map. Infact , I need maps
from Surry, Prince George Cos. both. Can you get me one from a real
estate, bank, or whoever has them...usually free. I will remit postage
for sending and family sheet copying. I have a so called listing for
John and Eliz. children but nothing past them. If you can help me would
be appreciated. Have lots of Gilliam history. Herb Armes; 2636 W. 31
St.; Erie, PA 16506-3117. armesco(a)velocity.net. Thanks you all.
I have begun transcribing some of R. Bolling Batte's Reading list from the
cards at the Library of Virginia digital collection into a data base. This
is the first section. The number corresponds to the LVA card number. Often
the backs of the cards have information on families that Batte apparently no
longer used, but the Library copied them nonetheless. That explains in part
the odd numbering.
Hope provides some ideas. Gary Cooper, you might check sources 13, 38
1 Fothergill, Augusta B. Peter Jones and Richard Jones
4 Clark, Eva Francis Epes, His Ancestors
5 Watson, Walter A. Notes of Southside Virginis
7 Bell, Landon Old Free State
9 Valentine, Edward Pleasants Edward Pleasants Valentine
11 Turner, Willard R. Old Homes and Families of
13 Slaughter, Philip History of Bristol Parish. VA
15 Descendants of William
17 Randolph, Robert Isham The Carter Tree
20 The Bland Papers
21 Bolling, Robert (of Bolling Family, a Memoir of a
23 French, S. Basset Centenial Tales (sic)
25 Randolph Booklet
27 Brown, Alexander The Cabells and their Kin
28 Bell, Landon C. Cumberland Parish, Lunenburg
32 Hale, Nathaniel Claiborne Roots in Virginia
34 Holcombe Genealogy
36 Childs, James Rives Reliques of the Rives
38 Robertson, Wyndham Pocahantas and Her Descendants
40 Pecquet du Bellet, Louise Some Prominent Virginia
42 Henry, Reginald Buchanan Genealogies of Families of the
44 Garber, Virginia Amistead The Armistead Family
46 Lee, Cazenove Gardner Lee Chronicle
48 Boddie, John Bennett Seventeenth Century Isle of
50 Freeman, Douglas Southall R.E. Lee
52 Friend, Carter Watkins Descendants of Captain Thomas
54 Bradshaw, Herbert Clarence History of Prince Edward
56 Men of Mark in Virginia
58 Clerical Directory (1926,
60 Johnson, John Lipscomb University of Virginia
Dear Poythress-List members,
I found the below information quite interesting & I think others of you
would also. This info was sent to me this month by Pat Crewe in England,
who had a Poytress gg-grandmother. [Poytress is the more common spelling
in England, apparently.] Several years ago now, Pat did her research on
the Poytress family, in Gloucestershire Records Office in Gloucester. She
had found a lot of material and she noted that much of it was in rather
poor condition. She had earlier transcribed a few of the more interesting
documents, but that was before she and Maurice got their present computer.
As Pat said, (and I wholeheartedly agree): "I think the most fascinating
part of [my] Poytress research was finding the sale catalogue when Anna
Poytress , nee Roan, had to sell up after her husband's death, and reading
about her trial for underestimating the value of his goods. We are not
always lucky enough to get a real insight into the lives of our ancestors."
This Anna Roan was married to the Thomas Poytress who was born in 1747 and
christened 29 March 1747 at Tirley, Glos [abbreviation for
Gloucestershire]. Thomas was the gg-grandson of the Christopher Poydras
who was born 1616 [christened 4 Sep 1616 at St. Swithin, Worcester] who was
brother of the FRANCIS POYTHRESS who was christened 12 July 1609 at Newent,
Glos and who is probably the Francis who came to America and became the
progenitor of American Poythress families. [Father of Francis and
Christopher was John Pewdreies, who died in 1647/1648, and who owned Ploddy
House until his death. Pat has stored all the Poytress information she has
collected (on nine generations of POYTRESSes, from her gg-grandmother back
to John Pewdreies) in a "Reunion" database.]
Thomas was a butcher, according to the marriage allegation dated 3 Nov
1770. Pat found that Thomas and Anna had the following children: Thomas
Ann, Martha, Charles, William, James. Thomas died leaving no will,
with an estate valued at less than 300 pounds according to an obligation
sworn by his wife Hannah/Anna on 9 May 1803. In her research Pat had
located papers concerning the following (quoted from Pat):
- "case to be heard in the Consistory Court of Gloucester, Bick against
Poytress 28th Jun 1804 to be held in Gloucester Cathedral. She had to
produce a true inventory of her husbands goods and give an account of her
administration at the promotion of John Bick Esq of Treddington, one of his
- "inventory for this court case amounting to £506.15.3d dated 20th Sep
1804. Rooms were; kitchen, little and great parlour, pantry, back kitchen,
brewhouse, dairy, 3 cellars, a corn chamber, a room over the brewhouse,
the servants room, a chamber over the kitchen, parlour chamber, millhouse,
cyderhouse, barn, hay house, shop, wellhouse, carthouse, cheese chamber and
- "court case held 3rd June 1805 when she was charged with not giving
enough value to her husbands goods"
- "copy of the sale held in April 1806 at Mrs Anna Poytresses - this
raised £460.18s.9d exclusive of a bull stay. Names of buyers are given and
even the names of some of the animals. One 3 year old gelding was called
Doctor and another Blackbird, a 2 year old was called Captain. The sale was
held over 2 days"
- "copy of Court judgement 17th Dec 1807 when the inventory was declared
imperfect - the sum of £13 10s to be added to the inventory and Hannah to
bear all costs in the case"
- "copy of administration when she died intestate in 1808"
As a result of our Nov 2000 correspondence, Pat said that Maurice managed
to find two of the transcriptions, the inventory for the court case 1804
and the court judgement 1807. She has given permission to share the
transcriptions with the Poythress-List if others are interested in seeing
them. Those interested in getting copies of the transcriptions of these
two court items should let Maynard know, since he is acting as our
substitute List-Master these days.
Hope each of you have a great Thanksgiving!
Barbara Poythress Neal
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I'm going to genealogy deal in Richmond 11/11 through 11/18, VA to Georgia
11/19 thru 11/24. Unless I find an ISP first time I'll check e-mail after
11/10 will be at my son's home on 11/20.
Wishing you all a happy and safe Thanksgiving.
Another good one is dogpile.com. THe advantage of dogpile is that it is a
meta-searcher, and uses about ten other search engines (including google, I
think) at once. Of course you have to get used to the disgusting name.... 8-)
Maynard, great to have you back online. Your were missed.
My quick check of this site turned up seven Poythresses, one of which,
Leta Poythress, I know to be the wife of a great-grandson of Lewis
Poythress. This particular entry was provided by a Paula Delosh, who the
site claims to have submitted "2,121 interments" and 262 photos during
her brief six month membership - quite aprolific lady.
It's an interesting way to present decedents, by cemetery. It may prove
useful to us down the road. -lpb
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 22:13:39 EST VKRatliff(a)aol.com writes:
>Talk about macabre.....try: http://www.findagrave.com
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit:
You may well become familiar with www.google.com for general searches. It
uses a different approach from other search engines, and it often gives you
the best result first.
I have found it quite good at genealogy searches. Insert the name you want
to find more about or just a surname. You may have to be patient if you make
a general search on just surname alone for a lot of stuff turns up. You can
also try a name and genealogy after it.
If you want to make sure the search is for one person, say "Thomas
Poythress" put his name in quotes. Otherwise, you will get some sites where
Thomas and Poythress both appear such as Jane Poythress and Thomas Rolfe.
I just turned up 3 photographs of one of my gg uncles.
Try it. See what you find.
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