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Found the following at ancestory.com, which is having a free 10 days viewing
of the muster rolls for War of 1812
POYTHRESS PATRICK H 83 REG'T (SCOTT'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.
POYTHRESS PETER 83 REG'T (SCOTT'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.
POYTHRESS WILEY 4 REGIMENT VIRGINIA MILITIA.
POYTHRESS WILLIE 1 REG'T (ALLEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.
POYTHRESS WILIE 62 REG'T (SELDEN'S) VIRGINIA MILITIA.
Here's a great New Years message that expresses my feelings for sure. Just
sit back, with one for the road especially is you're not planning to leave,
have one for me too, then read and enjoy the following.
Our very best wishes to you and yours for the New Millennium!.........
Merle and Bud
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In a message dated 12/31/1999 2:44:37 PM Atlantic Standard Time, Frank P.
<<< Here's wishing you the best in the year 2000. May you be happy,
prosperous and at peace with yourself.
A Wish For The New Millennium.
May your hair, your teeth, your face-lift, your ABS and your stocks not
fall; and May your blood pressure, your triglycerides, your cholesterol,
your white blood count and your mortgage interest not rise.
May you get a clean bill of health from your dentist, your cardiologist,
your gastro-endocrinologist, your urologist, your proctologist, your
podiatrist, your psychiatrist, your plumber and the IRS.
May you find a way to travel from anywhere to anywhere in the rush hour
in less than an hour, and when you get there, may you find a parking
May Friday evening, December 31, find you seated around the dinner table,
together with your beloved family and cherished friends,
ushering in the New Year ahead. You will find the food better, the
environment quieter, the cost much cheaper, and the pleasure much more
fulfilling than anything else you might ordinarily do that night.
May you wake up on January 1st, finding that the world has not come
to an end, the lights work, the water faucets flow, and the sky has not
May you go to the bank on Monday morning, January 3rd and find your
account is in order, your money is still there and any mistakes are in
May you ponder on January 4th; how did this ultramodern civilization
of ours manage to get itself traumatized by a possible slip of a blip on
a chip made out of sand.
May you have the strength to go through a year of presidential
campaigning, and May some of the promises made be kept. May you
believe at least half of what the candidates propose, and May those
elected fulfill at least half of what they promise, and the miracle of
reducing taxes and balancing budgets happen.
May what you see in the mirror delight you, and what others see in you
May the telemarketers wait to make their sales calls until you finish
dinner, and May your checkbook and your budget balance, and May they
include generous amounts for charity.
May you remember to say "I love you" at least once a day to your
spouse, your child, your parent; but not to your secretary, your nurse,
your masseuse, your hairdresser or your tennis instructor.
May we live as intended, in a world at peace and the awareness of the
beauty in every sunset, every flower's unfolding petals, every baby's
smile and every wonderful, astonishing, miraculous beat of our heart.
And, May you forward this on to someone that could use a smile and a
laugh to brighten their day. >>>>
FYI, I checked your Excel spreadsheet listing of the Grantors' General
Index to Deeds, Mecklenburg Co, VA 1765-1933 (which you said stopped at
1900 in the copy you saw), against the photocopies I had earlier made of
the pertinent "P" pages from a microfilm of that index which I saw
elsewhere. As you said, the microfilm was poor.
However I did note a couple of differences from your version, which may be
due to a different copy of the index book being microfilmed at a different
time, and want to list them below. The photocopies I have from microfilm
of this index were made early in my researching, and I failed to note on
them exactly where & when I made them.
2nd line, re the listing recorded 15 Nov 1813 in Deed Book [DB] 15, p.219:
grantor was indeed Poythress [by using "Do" for "Ditto], Lewis etal, but
the correct Grantee's name is "Commonwealth of Va." Also, this instrument
is shown as being a "Bond" and all the others, except one listed below, are
shown here as being Deeds.
3rd line, re the listing recorded 13 Aug 1831 in DB 24, p.382:
grantor's name is listed on my copy as "Poytress [sic], Francis, &
Littleberry H." [thus having a middle initial for Littleberry, and not
including Hardyman as a grantee, as you showed, & thus showing a different
spelling of the surname], and the grantee is listed here as "Carter,
William H." [not Wm D, as you showed]
4th line, re the listing recorded 21 Feb 1842 in DB 29, p.459:
grantor's surname for David & Mary S. is shown as "Poytress" by use of
"Do" for "Ditto" from the immediately-listed above item.
6th line, re the first of two listings recorded 18 Oct 1845 in DB 31,
grantor's name is shown here as "Poythress [by using "Do" for "Ditto],
Lewis Sr." and not Lewis Y. as you showed
10th line, re the listing recorded 17 Jul 1848 in DB 32, p.537:
this instrument is shown as being a "D-T" or Deed of Trust, in my
11th line, re the listing recorded 20 Sep 1852 in DB 34, p."85" as shown by
here you showed page 85, when my copy shows page 75, and also, for this
one, you listed the grantee's name as "Cleaton, Charles D." I think if you
check back with the microfilm while you are there, you will find that you
have inadvertently combined two consecutive listings. The first one here
(which on my copy shows the date above & DB 34, p.75) shows the grantee's
name as "Cleaton, Charles" with no middle initial, with the "75" page
number. THEN the immediately-next line, which you do not have in your
18 Oct 1852 recorded date for grantors "Poythress [by using "Do" for
"Ditto], Lucy J, Thomas M., Rebecca B." and grantee as "Cleaton, Chas D"
for a "Deed" in DB 34, p.85
13th line of your spreadsheet, re the listing recorded 09 Jan 1897 in DB
the grantors' names on my copy show as: "Poythress [by using "Do" for
"Ditto], etal A J, J D, Lucy, Rosa, W L, Richard" rather than as you show
it very similarly except you show "Rosa L" rather than both Rosa and W L
14th line of your spreadsheet, re the listing recorded 12 Jul 1898 in DB
you show the page number as being "58" or identical to the line above's
page number. My copy shows the page number as really being "193"
15th line of your spreadsheet, re the listing recorded 23 Oct 1900:
for some reason between your version of Excel & my version of Excel, the
date is coming in as "23 Oct 2000" rather than 1900 as I know it to be from
my photocopy. Also, on the grantors' names, my copy shows "Poythress [by
using "Do" for "Ditto], etal Richard, and Rosa" where your version didn't
show that "etal." Also, on the grantee's name my copy shows it as "Tudor,
H.V." rather than the middle initial being different as on your copy.
Further, my copy does indeed go beyond 1900, though it gets very hard to
read at that part of the page. The 3 additional Poythress listings [all
using "Do" for "Ditto" on that spelling of the surname] are as follows,
with the actual day of the month they were recorded being illegible so I'm
not guessing at them here. The grantors for all 3 of these deeds are:
"Poythress, F.A., Annie May" [who we know would be Foxhall A. Poythress &
his wife Annie May, by the way]
Nov 1910 grantee "Whitley, H.G." DB 74, p.40
Jan 1915 grantee "Jones, Z.L." DB 78, p.447
Mar 1923 [or possibly 1928 or 1929 -- very difficult to read that digit]
grantee "Tudor, J.R." DB 92, p. 238
Also, if you will re-check the Grantees' Index, and look all the way thru
it, at one of the "P" pages numbered "39" in the Index (and as I recall
there were MORE than ONE p.39), you will indeed find a whole string of VERY
difficult to read Poythress & Pothress & Poytress & Portress entries on the
lower half of the page, which are continued to the top of the next page,
numbered as p. "40"
Hope this helps. Maynard, I am sending you separately a copy of this
message, with a copy of the Excel spreadsheet that I have amended to
include the above changes/additions. That way if other folks want it, you
will have both versions to send out.
For some reason, perhaps budget restraints, the Clayton Library has a number
of microfilmed "indexes" without having the text of the documents themselves.
I have copied the index titled: General Index to Deeds, Mecklenburg County,
1765-1933. The index stopped at 1900. The index was by "grantor"; I scanned
grantee and saw none but I could have missed one as the microfilm is quite
I have transcribed this list into an Excel document with the thought that it
might someday be a good checklist for one of us who gets into those
Mecklenburg records, whether at the courthouse or in the Library of Virginia.
Since I cannot "attach" a document to the rootsweb address, I am sending it
to those whom I suspect might want this list in their files and I'm sending
it simultaneously to individual e-mail addresses. If you do not receive it,
it is likely I didn't send it to you.....you might be one whom I know has no
interest in Mecklenburg County, or I may not have your individual e-mail
If you don't get it and want a copy just drop me an e-mail
(vkratliff(a)aol.com) and I'll send you a copy and offer my apologies in
advance for having "missed" you.
(this is my first crack at creating an Excel document so if it goes awry,
would one of you techies come to my rescue? Thanks).
Please disseminate to widest distribution.
> Let's give our vets and other G.I.s the recognition they deserve.
> got around to looking at Time website and voting. The American GI
> belongs in the number one position. It is embarrassing to not find it
> the top twenty.
> I am passing this on.... please do the same. Here is the deal. Use
> link below and then vote. You gotta do this. It is important. When
> screen pops up, it will say "Time Person of the Century." There will
> blank in which you type out for whom you cast your vote. You type in
> "American GI", then push button for "Submit" to cast your ballot.
> all. If there are 600,000 patriots left in this country, then we win
> recognition that is due the TRUE Person of the Century: The American
> AT this point ELVIS PRESLEY leads the vote count with 15% of votes
> That amounts to somewhat over 600,000 votes. You would not believe
> of the other clowns in the vote count. Colin Powell wrote a stirring
> nomination for the American GI as TIME's Person of the Century which I
> One more time, stand up and be counted. This is for all those who
> all for the institution this past 100 years. Make sure the younger
> generations who read TIME realize that we did not forget who got us
> we are today. None did more this century than the American GI to
> us to the world of freedom and opportunity that we now enjoy. The
> American GI. Help us get him the recognition he is due.
> The Warriors, The American G.I. By Colin Powell
> From disparate roots, but united by patriotic courage, U.S. soldiers
> preserved freedom around the world.
> As Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I referred to the men and
> of the armed forces as "G.I.s." It got me in trouble with some of my
> colleagues at the time. Several years earlier, the Army had officially
> excised the term as an unfavorable characterization derived from the
> designation "government issue." Sailors and Marines wanted to be known
> sailors and Marines. Airmen, notwithstanding their origins as a rib of
> Army, wished to be called simply airmen. Collectively, they were
> referred to as "service members."
> I persisted in using G.I.s and found I was in good company. Newspapers
> television shows used it all the time. The most famous and successful
> government education program was known as the G.I. Bill, and it still
> that title for a newer generation of veterans. When you added one of
> most common boy's names to it, you got G.I. Joe, and the name of the
> popular boy's toy ever, the G.I. Joe action figure. And let's not
> G.I. Jane. G.I. is a World War II term that two generations later
> continues to conjure up the warmest and proudest memories of a noble
> that pitted pure
> good against pure evil-and good triumphed. The victors in that war
> the American G.I.s, the Willies and Joes, the farmer from Iowa and the
> steelworker from Pittsburgh who stepped off a landing craft into the
> of Omaha Beach. The G.I. was the wisecracking kid Marine from Brooklyn
> clawed his way up a deadly hill on a Pacific island. He was a black
> fighter pilot escorting white bomber pilots over Italy and Germany,
> proving that
> skin color had nothing to do with skill or courage. He was a native
> Japanese-American infantryman released from his own country's
> concentration camp to join the fight. She was a nurse relieving the
> of a dying teenager. He was a petty officer standing on the edge of a
> heaving aircraft carrier with two signal paddles in his hands, helping
> guide a dive-bomber pilot back onto the deck.
> They were America. They reflected our diverse origins. They were the
> embodiment of the American spirit of courage and dedication. They were
> truly a "people's army," going forth on a crusade to save democracy
> freedom, to defeat tyrants, to save oppressed peoples and to make
> families proud of them. They were the Private Ryans, and they stood
> in the thin red line. For most of those G.I.s, World War II was the
> adventure of their lifetime. Nothing they would ever do in the future
> would match their experiences as the warriors of democracy, saving the
> world from its own insanity. You can still see them in every Fourth of
> July color guard, their gait faltering but ever proud. Their
> went by other names: doughboys, Yanks, buffalo soldiers, Johnny Reb,
> Riders. But "G.I." will be forever lodged in the consciousness of our
> nation to apply to them all. The G.I. carried the value system of the
> American people. The G.I.s were the surest guarantee of America's
> commitment. For more than 200 years, they answered the call to fight
> nation's battles. They never went forth as mercenaries on the road to
> conquest. They went forth as reluctant warriors, as citizen soldiers.
> They were as gentle in victory as they were
> vicious in battle. I've had survivors of Nazi concentration camps tell
> of the joy they experienced as the G.I.s liberated them: America had
> I've had a wealthy Japanese businessman come into my office and tell
> what it was like for him as a child in 1945 to await the arrival of
> dreaded American beasts, and instead meet a smiling G.I. who gave him
> Hershey bar. In thanks, the businessman was donating a large sum of
> to the USO. After thanking him, I gave him as a souvenir a Hershey
> had autographed. He took it and began to cry.
> The 20th century can be called many things, but it was most certainly
> century of war. The American G.I.s helped defeat fascism and
> They came home in triumph from the ferocious battlefields of World
> and II. In Korea and Vietnam they fought just as bravely as any of
> predecessors, but no triumphant receptions awaited them at home. They
> soldiered on through the twilight struggles of the cold war and showed
> what they were capable of in Desert Storm. The American people took
> into their hearts again.
> In this century hundreds of thousands of G.I.s died to bring to the
> beginning of the 21st century the victory of democracy as the
> political system on the face of the earth. The G.I.s were willing to
> travel far away and give their lives, if necessary, to secure the
> and freedoms of others. Only a nation such as ours, based on a firm
> foundation, could make such a request of its citizens. And the G.I.s
> wanted nothing more than to get the job done and then return home
> All they asked for in repayment from those they freed was the
> to help them become part of the world of democracy-and just enough
> bury their fallen comrades, beneath simple white crosses and Stars of
> David. The volunteer G.I.s of today stand watch in Korea, the Persian
> Gulf, Europe and the dangerous terrain of the Balkans. We must never
> them as mere hirelings, off in a corner of our society. They are our
> and we owe them our full support and our sincerest thanks. As this
> century closes, we look back to identify the great leaders and
> personalities of the past 100 years. We do so in a world still
> but full of promise. That promise was gained by the young men and
> America who fought and died for freedom. Near the top of any listing
> the most important people of the 20th century must stand, in singular
> honor, the American G.I.
Hope all is well with you and yours this Christmas. Have a beautiful
blessed entry into the next millinium or the next century! [some folk
believe it is the beginning of the next milinium...others think it
starts Jan 1, 2001]...I will be PC on my PC and sit on the fence on it.
I just hope it is safe and healthy, and prosperous many years into
whatever you chose to call it.
We wish all of you a very merry Chirstmas and a happy new year. To any one
Researching the Poythress Family of NC.I now have Over 400 names in my tree.
If you have a Family tree maker, I would be glad to send you my file.
Horace and Betty Poythress
Below is off the Screven County list today. I'm trying to max every minute
in Clayton Lib. in Houston so won't get a chance to check it until next week
late but thought you all might want to know about it anyway.
> From: Archives & Archivists [mailto:ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU] On
> Behalf Of CLARK JULEIGH ... LIBRARY
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 2:35 PM
> To: ARCHIVES(a)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject: Colonial Williamsburg's Rockefeller Library on the web
> ROCKEFELLER LIBRARY UNVEILS NEW WEBSITE
> The John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Library has unveiled a greatly
> section on the Colonial Williamsburg website
> offering individuals interested in the colonial Chesapeake the
> to search the library?s vast collections. New features include
> Rockefeller Library?s online catalog listing the 68,000 titles in
> Library, and guides to manuscript, microfilm, selected photograph
> research collections, such as the Shirley Plantation Collection of
> 18,000 manuscript items. Previously, individuals had to physically
> the library or be connected to an internal network to access these
> ?We have electronically opened the doors to our major
> adding finding aids and the Library catalog to the World Wide Web, ?
> Public Services Librarian Juleigh Clark. ?Now, when researchers
come to the
> Library, they will have a better idea of what we own, and we can
> more efficiently.? Other features on the website include a virtual
> of some of the treasures from the Rockefeller Library?s rare book
> manuscript collections and special indexes to articles in The
> Williamsburg Journal and The Colonial Williamsburg Interpreter. Of
> interest is an index to the several hundred research reports written
> Colonial Williamsburg over the last sixty years. Early American
> Research Reports are distinguished for the significant amount of
> source material in them and for their time and place specificity:
> eighteenth-century Virginia.
> The John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Library is a research library
> specializing in the history and culture of the colonial Chesapeake.
> located near the Historic Area at 313 First Street and is open to
> public. Library hours are Monday through Friday from 10 a.m. to 5
> Juleigh Muirhead Clark
> Public Services Librarian
> John D. Rockefeller, Jr. Library
> Colonial Williamsburg Foundation
> Williamsburg, Virginia 23815-1776
Thank you all for you prayers and thoughts through this ordeal. We got word
today that Odell had left the hotel she was put up in by the LAPD, after she
was mugged, on Saturday morning around 8. She was so upset and confused that
she got herself turned around and sometime today made it back to her home in
CA. She is home safe and sound. Definitely shook up but she's ok. Thank GOD
and all of you for your prayers and thoughts. And they say prayers aren't
answered. Another Christmas Miracle for my family :)
Lots of hugs and kisses
Merry Christmas to all
and Happy New Year
All thoughts and prayers are being said by myself and family.
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I know it's been awhile since I posted anything to you guys but I thought I
would pass along this information to you.
For those of you that have interest in Bethany, on the school register is
listed Odell Peters. She was the daughter of Bessie Poythress and Alger
Peters. She is now residing in CA and left Friday heading to NC for Christmas
with her family. We recieved a phone call last night from another cousin
telling us that Odell is missing. A phone call was made from her cell phone
on Friday night to her landlord who spoke to Odell and said she was in
hysteria. According to what was told to my cousin, the man who called the
landlord said he was a police officer and needed a credit card # to put Odell
up in a hotel. I don't know all the exact details but it just doesn't hold
water with me.
A missing persons report has been filed with CA and we are in the process of
trying to get all the details. Meanwhile, if you could please keep Odell and
her family in your prayers. I will send more info as it comes in.
Carol, I think what Clayton is calling Order Book 2 is really their microfilm
roll # 2 because it clearly says it ends in 1782......but don't turn your
house inside out just yet. I'll be back down to the library by Tuesday at
least and will check once more.
I'm finding out that Clayton buys a lot of microfilm "indexes" without having
the texts to match. Probably pretty realistic in one sense if they have a
budget limitation (they appear not to). On the other hand, no matter where a
library is I expect Virginia stuff to always be there if one accepts the
premise "in the beginning Virginia is all there was".
Thanks again for the help.
>The question is that 1790 is about in sequence to be in Deed Book 12 where
>this one is clearly indexed (and the index looks roughly contemporaneous
>the deeds themselves). And the deed is clearly sitting there on page 512 of
>Deed Book 12 with all the surrounding wills dated about 1790.
>1. the text of the will clearly says 1774.
And 1774 it is.
>2. 1790 is likely too late for Peter to still be alive if he is the Peter I
>think he is.
And it probably is the Peter that you are thinking of.
>I guess I'm no longer inclined to put 100% faith in what appears to be the
>"current" index to Brunswick County deeds......or is there something in
>that I'm missing?
Yeah.<G> It is not uncommon for folks to not bother to file their deeds in
the courthouse until they have to. Sometimes it can take generations.
Question # 2.....See the following deed:
Brunswick County, VA Deed Book 14, page 612 (1790)
This indenture made this 24th day of March in the year of our Lord one
thousand seven hundred and seventy four between Peter Poythress of the county
of Prince George of the one part and Christopher Haskins of the county of
Brunswick of the other part. Witnesseth, that the said Peter Poythress for
and in consideration of the sum of 9L current money of Virginia to him in
hand paid by the said Christopher Haskins the receipt whereof he the said
Peter Poythress doth hereby acknowledge hath granted and bargained and sold
aliened and confirmed that by these presents doth grant bargain sell alien
and confirm unto the said Christopher Haskins his heirs and assigns forever
six acres of land as the same more or less lying situate on Nottoway River in
the aforesaid county of Brunswick, as bounded as follows��(typical text
describing boundaries in detail)�.Witness whereof the said Peter Poythress
hath herewith set his hand and affixed his seal on the day and year above
Signed sealed and delivered
In the presence of: Peter Poythress (ls)
The question is that 1790 is about in sequence to be in Deed Book 12 where
this one is clearly indexed (and the index looks roughly contemporaneous with
the deeds themselves). And the deed is clearly sitting there on page 512 of
Deed Book 12 with all the surrounding wills dated about 1790.
1. the text of the will clearly says 1774.
2. 1790 is likely too late for Peter to still be alive if he is the Peter I
think he is.
I guess I'm no longer inclined to put 100% faith in what appears to be the
"current" index to Brunswick County deeds......or is there something in here
that I'm missing?
Carol, I'm in Houston and the Clayton Genealogical Library has a limited
supply of Brunswick microfilm......what looks to be all of the deed books,
the will books, and a couple of Court Order books that I'm having difficulty
understanding. They also have
INDEXES to these on microfilm.....with a few minor problems in the indexes.
I have two questions for the reigning Brunswick County expert (that's y that
I would like to pose to you if you have the time and I will greatly
appreciate and value your opinion.
Problem number 1 (I'll put #2 in a separate e-mail as it requires a "paste"
and since I'm on a "guest" computer I can't "build" it clearly.
In the indexes for the Deed Book 12 up jumps a deed from John Morris & wife
to Meredith Poythress in 1783. (1783 looks about right in the "dates sequence
to be in Book 12. Although I'm chugging along in Deed Book 12 all of a
sudden a long string of deeds starts showing in a column that clearly now
says "Court Order Book #2".
If the regular deed book 12 didn't resume "DB 12" in the "book" column in a
page or so I would have said it looked like the guy filled up his deed book,
didn't have another one and just found an empty Court Order Book #2 and
started indexing deeds in it.
This deed, according to the index, should be on page 506 of "Order Book 2".
Do you have access to Order Book 2 to see if the thing is there and
transcribe it for me.
(Carol, it is entirely possible that I may be looking at a different index
than the one you have access to but in any case, mine was done in 1949 by the
A Meredith Poythress buying land in Brunswick in 1783 would be quite
meaningful to us in the sense that Meredith had likely not made the decision
to immigrate to Georgia. This, along with a number of Thomas Poythress court
actitivity which I have
dictated but not yet transcribed, has the potential to be important.
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