Hello Val,
Ok, I can see where your confusion lies; so let me take you step by step.
First of all there was the 6th Regiment of Foot which in one form or another
was basically the Warwickshire Regiment pure and simple.
1751-1782 6th Regiment of Foot
1782-1832 6th (1st Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot
1832-1881 6th (Royal 1st Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot
1881-1963 The Royal Warwickshire Regiment
1963-1968 The Royal Warwickshire Fusiliers
In 1968 they became part of the new Royal Regiment of Fusiliers.
Then you have the South Wales Borderers, with its name changes as follows: -
First raised in Kent March 1689
1751-1782 24th Regiment of Foot
1782-1881 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot
1881-1969 The South Wales Borderers
1969 Royal Regiment of Wales (24th/41st Foot)
From 1756 to 1758 the 2nd Battalion, 24th Regiment of Foot existed with that
title. From 1758 to 1782 they changed their title to the 69th Regiment of
Foot, which later became the 69th (South Lincolnshire) Regiment of Foot. In
1804 another 2nd Battalion, 24th Regiment of Foot was raised at Warwick.
Following service in Canada and America, during the campaign for
independence, the 24th Regiment were instructed, in 1782, to style itself
the 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot, a title it retained for the
next 100 years.
Because in the mid-1800's, the 24th (2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot was
mainly recruiting from the Welsh border counties it was decided to establish
a permanent depot in Brecon. It was therefore logical that in 1881 when
infantry regiments were given territorial titles that the 24th assumed the
title of "South Wales borderers".
In the Zulu War 1879, "G" Company of the 2nd Battalion were present with the
1st Battalion at Isandhlwana, whilst "B" Company of the 2nd Battalion were
in defence of Rorke's Drift which earned them seven Victoria Crosses.
To clarify, the insertion of (2nd Warwickshire) in the title of the 24th
Regiment of Foot was to distinguish it from the existing 6th (1st
Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot. References to the 2nd Battalion, 24th
Regiment of Foot should not be confused with the (2nd Warwickshire) title
itself. Therefore to summarise the answer to your question, there was no
24/1 Warwickshire Regt., but there was a 1/24th and 2/24th (2nd
Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot, mainly made up of men recruited from the
Welsh border counties that fought in the aforementioned Zulu War in 1879.
I hope this hasn't left you too bewildered! Me, I am going off to have a
quiet cup of tea and an Aspirin.
Regards,
Glyndwr (Glyn) Davies,
Chatham, Kent, UK.
----- Original Message -----
From: Val Thomas <Val31(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 1998 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] seeking Leigh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glyn Davies" <glyn.davies(a)medwaywelsh.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] seeking Leigh
> Hello Val,
>
> I am a little confused by the data in your line of enquiry. You state
that
> Walter Robert LEIGH served in the 2nd Battalion, The Royal Warwickshire
> Regiment at the battle of Isandwandana and alternatively Isandanqwana.
Do
> you mean Isandhlwana? If so, this battle took place on the 22nd
January
> 1879 and mainly involved the 24th Regiment (The South Wales Borderers).
It
> is a prominent hill in western Zululand, 10 miles east of Rorke's Drift
on
> the Buffalo River.
>
> In these circumstances, to the best of my knowledge, your reference to
the
> 2nd Warwick's cannot be correct. The 2nd Battalion was
serving in India
in
> 1878 until they were posted to Ceylon in 1891. The 1st Battalion was
also
> in India in 1867 before being moved to Aden in 1879, then
England 1880.
The
> 1st Battalion did take part in the Second Sudan War of 1898.
>
> Regiments that served in the South Africa / Zulus War were as follows: -
>
> 1877-79
> South Wales Borderers; Cameronians; Connaught Rangers.
>
> 1878-79
> Somerset Light Infantry; South Staffordshire.
>
> 1879
> King's Dragoon Guards; 17th Lancers; Buffs; King's Own; Royal Scots
> Fusiliers; Northamptonshire; Middlesex; King's Royal Rifle Corps;
Wiltshire;
> Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.
>
> A list of campaign medals issued for the above conflict "South Africa
> 1878-1879" can be found in PRO class reference WO 32/7682, 7764.
>
> Hoping this may clarify your line of approach to the problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glyndwr (Glyn) Davies,
> Chatham, Kent, UK.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Val Thomas <Val31(a)btopenworld.com>
> To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 1998 1:47 AM
> Subject: [POWYS] seeking Lleigh
> > thank you val
>
Hi Glyn
I'v read through your information which was helpful, but I need some
clarification on the 24/1 Warwickshire foot Reg and the >2/24
Warwickshire
Reg I thought that these two regiments were at Isandhlwana and
became
the
South Wales borders in 1881, and then became the Royal Reg of Wales
in
1969,
the Warwickshire foot were not actual with the Royal Warwick
Battalion,
and
this information is not correct, would be much obliged if you could
let me
know.
Val