Sarah,
I checked the 1881 Census Index for Wales and found no Clifford or Ivor
ROGERS, but quite a few Thomas ROGERS in various counties -- only 2
possibilities in Llanelly, Breconshire, (both a bit too young to be a father
in 1898?), one a bit older in Llanelly, Carmarthenshire, and several others,
also very young. There are other Thomas ROGERS in other counties and also
some in other parts of Carmarthenshire but I concentrated on some
relationship with Llanelly. The birth certificate may end up with a
father's name entirely different, of course! :-)
1881 Census Index
Dwelling: No 17 Ropeyard Str
Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5373 Folio 57 Page
53
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William ROGERS M 37 M Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Hammerman in Tin Wks (TPW)
Ann ROGERS M 33 F Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Wife
Eliza A. ROGERS 14 F Neath, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
Cecilia ROGERS 10 F Llanelly ((Neath)), Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
James ROGERS 4 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary J. ROGERS 2 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Thomas ROGERS 1 m M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Edward OSLAND U 29 M Blaenavon, Monmouth, England
Occ: (No Occ)
1881 Census Index
Dwelling: 17 Alma St
Census Place: Llanelly, Brecon, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342314 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5465 Folio 64 Page
12
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Noah ROGERS M 43 M Varteg, Monmouth, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Ann ROGERS M 32 F Brecon, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Wife
Nicholas I. ROGERS 16 M Pontlottyn, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Sarah ROGERS 14 F Pontlottyn, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Daur
Noah ROGERS 6 M Pontlottyn, Glamorgan, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth A. ROGERS 4 F Brynmawr, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Tom ROGERS 13 d M Brynmawr, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Son
Harry ROGERS 13 d M Brynmawr, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Son
Eva A. ROGERS 2 F Brynmawr, Brecknock, Wales
Rel: Daur
1881 Census Index
Dwelling: 23 Union Buildings
Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5374 Folio 76 Page
11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
George ROGERS M 36 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Lead Workman (L Manuf)
Anne ROGERS M 32 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Wife
John ROGERS 12 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
David ROGERS 10 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William ROGERS 7 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Tom ROGERS 4 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Joseph ROGERS 1 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
1881 Census Index
Dwelling: No 12 Tin Works Row
Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5373 Folio 53 Page
46
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William ROGERS M 29 M St. Clears, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Stoker in Tinworks
Mary ROGERS M 34 F Llanychlwydog, Pembroke, Wales
Rel: Wife
Thomas N. ROGERS 1 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Mary A. RYAN 12 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Serv
Occ: General Servant (Domestic)
1881 Census Index
Dwelling: Cwmfelyn
Census Place: Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Source: FHL Film 1342295 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5371 Folio 69 Page
22
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Thomas ROGER M 30 M Kidwelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Head
Occ: Coal Miner
Anne ROGER M 30 F Llanegwad, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Wife
David ROGER 10 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary Anne ROGER 7 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Sarah ROGER 5 F Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John ROGER 3 M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Thomas ROGER 4 m M Llanelly, Carmarthen, Wales
Rel: Son
Julie Preston
juliepreston(a)ameritech.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "sarah crellin" <sesewills(a)yahoo.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:05 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Rogers
Hello to all,
I am new to this list, from Denville, NJ. I am
searching for my grandfathers family, his name was
Thomas Ivor Clifford Rogers. I believe that I might
have found his birth on the Civil Reg Index in March
of 1898 in Llanelly, now LLanelli? Does anyone have
anyway to confirm this for me? He is my brick wall
and it's driving me mad!! Thanks Sarah. Ps. In the
index it's listed as Rogers thomas clifford.
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