Dear John,
You found it--Cwmgynfin! As you suggested, I found the map section on the
Get-A-Map Web site. For the first time, I also found Pen-yr-Heol (Penrheol).
I'll also try the Old Maps Web site when it returns online.
I'm surprised that Cwmgynfin and Pen-yr-Heol seem to be in the parish of
Glasbury, even though they are much closer to Talgarth.
I found the general area on the Landranger 161 map (1.25-inch to 1 mile),
but most of these small places aren't labeled. The reprint of the first
edition of the one-inch Ordnance Survey Map of Brecon (Sheet 58) shows
Penrheol, but not all the other neighboring places you mentioned. That map
is hard to read, so I might have missed something.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to locate Cwmgynfin for me.
Best regards,
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ball [mailto:wfha@clara.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 4:53 PM
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Where is Cwmgynfun or Cwmgyn Fair, Glasbury?
Rick Crume <rick(a)onelibrary.com>
I'm trying to locate a place called Cwmgynfun or Cwmgyn Fair, or something
similar. It's probably located near Glasbury, Breconshire.
Thomas Williams and Anne Adams, married 21 Jun 1777 Glasbury, Brecon Wales.
Another entry for this marriage says the bride and groom were "of Cwmgynfun,
Brecon, Wales."
Pen-yr-Heol Baptist Meeting House, graveyard near Glasbury, Brecon.
In the memory of William son of Thomas Williams by Ann his wife who departed
this life April the 26th 1795 age 13 years late of Cwingyn Fair.
Is there a Cwmgwyn Farm near Glasbury?
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Dear Rick,
The 1881 census enumerates "Cwmgynfin" in the census district of Talgarth
(near Glasbury). It is enumerated next to "Chausefield" and "Wernfawr"
on
one side, and "Penberthbedw", "Penyrheol", and "Bailian
Bach" on the other
(any misspellings are probably the result of transcription errors).
The modern Ordnance Survey 1:25,000-scale "Explorer" map shows Church
Fields, Wernfawr, Berthfedw, Penrheol, and Beiliau-bach. I assume Cwmgynfin
is close by, but it is not identified by name on the modern map. The area
concerned is centred on grid reference SO175332.
You can see the relevant 2-kilometre square section of a large scale
Ordnance Survey map at the Get-A-Map website
http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/frames.htm
In the search section near the top left of the Get-A-Map webpage, enter
SO175332 into the search field and click the GO button. The initial map to
appear will be the relevant 2 km x 2 km section of a 1:25,000 scale
'Explorer' map.
You can zoom out and change to successively smaller scale maps by clicking
on the zoom control buttons to the middle left of the map.
You can also call up a highly detailed (1:10,560-scale) late 19th century
map of this area by going to the Old Maps website at
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ (the website is currently off line for
maintenance but should be available shortly).
On the main page, select the "Co-ordinates" option in the search facility
(near top left of the page). In the search field enter the co-ordinates
317500,233200 (without any spaces) and click the Search button.
When the small map appears, click on the "Enlarged view" button below the
map. A highly detailed large map of the area of interest will open in a new
window. It is likely that Cwmgynfin (or a spelling variant) will be
identified by name on this map.
Kind regards,
John
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