Hi Lizzie, Yes, thanks for the thought.
The 'Red Lion' connection is intriguing isn't it?
'Our' Daniel Ashton, bap.19Feb.1797 in Trefeglwys, described as a farmer
and then a shoemaker (& perhaps an innkeeper?) living at Red Lion, Bont,
DolgadfanTwnshp in 1841. But David Peate of the MGS once commented that the
'Red Lion' wasn't necessarily an inn. Presumably he meant a 'properly
licensed' inn.
In this 'The Life Story of Edward Ashton' about "Edward Ashton born in
Caersws, Parish of Llangwnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales, August 22nd, 1821,
came to America in 1850" an American descendant describes finding in about
the mid-1900s the gravestones of supposed Ashton ancestors in "the old
Church of Llanwnog where my (fore)father's had been married, baptized, and
buried" most notably:
Edward ASHTON, late of RED LION in this parish, who departed this life Dec.
7th, 1871, aged 78 years.
If Bont, Dolgadfan and Caersws, Llanwnog each had a 'Red Lion', I am
wondering how many of these small communities had one? What did the name
signify to people at that time? Was it a popular name amongst English pubs?
and so used to try to attract English-speaking people travelling in Wales?
- kind of like saying 'English spoken here'.
Our Daniel Ashton, 1797-1867, and Anne Jones, about 1800-1838, produced
Edward born 4Nov.1827 at 'Red Lion' Bont Dolgadfan and bap.11Nov.1827, in
Llanbrynmair. Linking these two Edward Ashtons by the name 'Red Lion'
doesn't seem to help. The Edward Ashton, b.1793, is more like Daniel's
generation born in Trefeglwys.
Daniel's younger brother Edward Ashton was born 1806 and he produced an
Edward about 1828.
Searching my Ashton shrubbery for an Edward b.about 1793,
1. I see Edward bap.15Sep.1792 at Cwmdylluan, about 1 mile S of Trefeglwys,
and who was apparently described in 1841 as D&D.
2. I see Edward bap.20Mar.1794 at Pant, about 1/2 mile SE of Trefeglwys,
just across the river Cerist. - died 1800.
Not at all productive, I'm afraid :-( and the same goes for searching for
Jane & Anne Ashton on the Mis.
We're not playing with a full deck here. I wish we could identify more of
Bill Barker's pack of Ashtons.
Cheers, Tony
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:23:04 +1000
From: aspenlea <aspenlea(a)uq.net.au>
Subject: [POWYS] ASHTON - Red Lion
X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/15140
I must confess I am suffering a little from ASHTON overload but did pick up
on Tony Francis' mail to Dave Whittall in which he mentioned an "Edward
ASHTON, late of Red Lion in this Parish" died in 1871 aged 78 (which puts
his birth around 1793).
Could someone tell me if there were many ASHTON folk living in the Red Lion
area of Llanbrynmair in 1841? Just wondering if some of them are related to
my Daniel ASHTON (b abt 1797) (40, widower, farmer plus his children).
Thanks in advance
Lizzie
Brisbane, Australia
FHS: Mont #965, Gwynedd #2991