Thankyou so much, I found the marriage of my Clarence croft to Mary Jones And found his
birth on free BMD. in Aston Birmingham UK not found him on 1911 census. However.
Ancestry want nearly £23 for a certificate, so will try the other sites. Denise. X
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On 12 Mar 2015, at 09:08, Alison Bryan via <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
wrote:
Hi Dee
Clive has answered your question but I have some more to add. Here I
am referring to England and Wales. I think there are three main ways
to obtain certificates: GRO, local office or church books (if your
ancestor married there).
1. National index / GRO. As what Clive said. You will also find
these indexes on Ancestry, FMP, etc (subscription needed or library
access). The Ancestry indexes go up to 2006 and the FMP marriage
indexes to 2008. Free ones online as Clive has already commented stop
much earlier. Note: the Ancestry indexes are sometimes a database
nightmare, they place towns in other counties. E.g. Aberystwyth is
frequently placed in Pembrokeshire. If your're going to do this,
always check the original image. Note, it is often possible to get a
spouse's surname via the paid indexes where they married after 1916
(this depends on knowing the first name and no-one else on the same
page sharing that first name).
If you do get a national index number, then you can order direct from
the GRO at cost. Currently £9.50 if you're in the UK.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
Pros/cons: slightly cheaper than ordering locally but you can order
online (where this isn't available locally). However, the certificate
you get is a copy of the GRO's entry so you get handwriting from the
time the entry was made. The entry has been copied from the local
books (back when the entry was made), so sometimes (infrequently)
human error creeps into transcription (or the original local entries
weren't clear, Welsh place names etc which might be unfamiliar to the
GRO).
2. Local index / local register office. Note: you do not need to
have the local register office index to order a certificate this way
but it helps.
As far as I'm aware, not all register offices have their indexes
transcribed. E.g. the Montgomeryshire indexes are on the North Wales
BMD site:
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/index.php I am not aware of the
Radnorshire or Breconshire indexes being online (someone could correct
me).
If you find a certificate via this method, then you need to fill in
the form (to send) or phone up the Registrar at Powys County Council.
Note: for some authorities, it is possible to order online. The cost
of certificates from Powys are are currently £10, so 50p more than the
GRO ones.
The other local BMD website is the Lancashire BMD
(
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/), there could be others.
Pros/cons: you can narrow your search down to the sub-registration
district. E.g. Trefeglwys comes under Llanidloes Lower, which is more
specific than searching for the whole of the Newtown registration
district. This is good for searching more common names, as it narrows
down the possiblities. For marriages, these indexes give you the
place of marriage (I think chapels often come under the Register
Office). Searching these indexes can give you a peace of mind, even
when ordering from the GRO (sometimes confirming the place of marriage
for a given quarter ensures that you are likely to have the right
entry). If I'm still unsure or there's more than one possibility, I
give the Registrar's office two or three different options and exact
information I am looking for (such as I know the father's name or
where someone is likely to have been born or their residence at the
time of marriage). This gives more value for money than GRO option
which is sometimes a stab in the dark. The local register office
certificates come in modern day handwriting, the staff copy the entry
from the register on that day (so you don't get an element of
history).
3. The third way which Clive has already stated, is the actual
marriage entry in the church books (where they married there), which
is cheaper than ordering a certificate. The information here is no
different from certificates, in fact it can give you more information
in that you see the original signatures of your ancestors.
Some scans of church books are available on FMP (this is not
comprehensive). I've got a few Shropshire ones this way and I
effectively paid nothing (I took a £1 month subscription last year,
last weekend FMP access was free). FMP is also available for free at
some (most?) libraries. Ditto you can find church entries on
microfiche at the local archives, NLW for the Wales ones and probably
available to order at Family History Centres. You can print these off
at a nominal cost or download the original image on FMP. Some archive
offices have the original church books deposited.
So this is the cheapest way. Of course this is dependent on your
ancestors marrying in a church (and the records being available).
Note to help you where your ancestor married, search the local indexes
(where available) as it can save hassle.
I hope this helps.
Alison
> On 12 March 2015 at 01:49, Dee via <powys(a)rootsweb.com> wrote:
> Can anyone let me know best place to order a marriage certificate from and cost
please? Thankyou Denise
>
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