I agree with Rhian on this, but from a completely different direction. I looked
up those meanings, which I found surprising. I was prompted to do so by finding
an ancestor who was sometimes referred to as Ieuan and at other times as James
(not John). I have no doubt that it was the same person, although it was a very
long time ago and further north-west (Caernarfon area).
In general though, I think there is a need to distinguish between names which
may be regarded as alternative names for the same person (e.g. Dick and Richard
to take an English example) and names which have the same or similar original
meanings but are not considered as alternatives for the same person (e.g. Jane,
Jean and Joan to take another English example). I suspect that these
Welsh/English equivalents usually come into the latter category, not the
former.
Jim Fisher
On 2 Oct 2015 at 21:55, Rhian Williams via wrote:
Hi Megan and Marilyn
I'm not sure I'd totally agree with the statement that John and Evan are
considered to be the same name. I can see the idea behind this - if you were to
look up a site with the meanings of Welsh names and looked up Ifan (Evan) and
also Ieuan you would be told that both mean John, as does the name Ioan (as in
the Gospel of John). However, I'm not so certain that in Wales people considered
them all to be the same name. I have in my family, and have seen in other
families, two brothers in the same household, one called Evan and the other
called John, without any awareness of duplication. Neither do I remember ever
meeting anyone who had the name John and was called familiarly Evan or vice
versa. Unless maybe it's a regional thing?
I wonder what other people think? I'm open to contradiction!
Rhian
-----Original Message-----
From: Megan Roberts via
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2015 11:37 AM
To: powys(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [POWYS] re Evan Jenkins
John and Evan are generally considered to be the same name.
Megan
From: lissymay via <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
To: POWYS(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Friday, 2 October 2015, 7:56
Subject: [POWYS] re Evan Jenkins
Have you seen this:
1851 address vulcan Place,Llanbadarn Fawr,Aberystwyth. Cardiganshire.
Re: Ho107 /Piece.2485 /Folio 278 /Page 10.
Jenkins Richard. hd widower 1789.Aberystwyth. shoemaker.
Jenkins Evan son Unmarried 1832 Aberystwyth Mariner.
couldn´t find them in 1841.
H.T.H.
Lynne.
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