Hope the links work on Roots web!
Regards
John
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From: "Julie Preston" <juliefpreston(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] John W. Jones and Elizabeth Pugh
Linda,
Since both John JONES and Elizabeth were born prior to the advent of Civil
Registration (July 1837), you will not be able to obtain *birth
certificates* for them or any of their forebears. You must locate their
baptism entries in the parish registers (Bishop's Transcripts microfilmed
by
the LDS) or chapel registers (often Calvinistic Methodists or Wesleyan
Methodists - Wesleyan ministers worked a 'circuit' so their registers
cover
a wide area, while Calvinistic Methodist registers are extremely detailed
and a great find). You need to work backward in time through any/all
available documentation, beginning with the marriage certificate and then
locating them in the 1851 & 1841 census returns, hopefully with their
respective families. There will be no record of them living as a married
couple since they married and emigrated between census years.
Be aware the many Welsh people did not have a middle name or initial but
adopted one upon arrival in the U.S. so don't expect his marriage entry to
have the "W".
A cursury check of
www.northwalesbmd.org.uk marriages, Machynlleth
District,
1856, turned up one possibility for John JONES, Machynlleth, Civil
Marriage
(i.e., took place at the registrar's office), Registers now at
Powys-Machynlleth Supt. Reg. Office, Ref. No. MACH/02/59.
There are two marries on each page of the register -- these are the other
persons listed:
ELLIS Elizabeth
LEWIS Ellis
MORRIS Sarah
Suggest you explore the NorthWalesBMD site and try to order their marriage
certificate. If you contact the Machynlleth Reg. Office directly, they
may
be able to easily tell you if the marriage date matches the date you have
(assuming it's correct). The marriage certificate will provide you with
the
residence of each of them at the time of marriage, occupations, ages
(sometimes says "Full Age"), father's name & occupation.
Kind regards,
Julie Preston
juliefpreston(a)sbcglobal.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "K.F. gengenbacher" <genbach(a)hotmail.com>
To: <powys-l(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:44 PM
Subject: [POWYS] John W. Jones and Elizabeth Pugh
Hello, am new to the list. I am researching John W. Jones, born of
Humphrie
and Sara Jones, who lived near Aberdovey. He was born Sep 25, 1825. On
July
24, 1856 John married Elizabeth (Pugh?) who was born Feb. 1829, and lived
near Machnylleth. I believe they were married in Machnylleth. In Sept of
1856 they sailed from Liverpool for America, where they spent the rest of
their lives in Ohio. I have no official documents, such as birth, death,
or
marriage certs. I have high hopes of finding these items, however. Any
help
or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Linda Gengenbacher
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