Ancestry.com lets you send the information you find straight from their
sight and about 4 years ago I phoned Ancestry and they said the subject to
copyright was for anyone taking large amounts of information not to be used
for personal research but to copy and use on a commercial or other site. I
really don't think doing a look up for the forum is an infringement of
copyright from findmypast. I know it isn't for ancestry.
Carole
-----Original Message-----
From: powys-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of John Ball
Sent: October-23-09 5:19 PM
To: Powys(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [POWYS] 1911 census - MESSAGE FROM ADMIN
Dear Listers,
A full discussion of copyright issues relating to the FindMyPast website
is beyond the scope of this mailng list.
I confess I am no expert on the subject but my understanding is that
although the census data itself is not subject to copyright, the means by
which we access it is. FindMyPast has developed and provided the indexing
system that enables us to search the census data on-line. The indexing
system is their intellectual property. That is what we pay for when we
subscribe to or buy credits from FindMyPast. The same is true of access to
census data on
Ancestry.com and other commercial websites.
A brief examination of the Terms and Conditions associated with the use of
the FindMyPast website revealed the following relevant extracts:
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Terms and Conditions
You must agree to these Terms & Conditions if you use the Website or make
a purchase from us.
Intellectual Property and Right to Use the Resources
11.2 You acknowledge and agree that the Resources are made available for
your personal, non-commercial use only as set out in Clause 3.7 and that
you may only download material and content from the Resources on one
computer hard drive for such purpose. Any other use of the Resources is
strictly prohibited.
[Clause 3.7 includes the following condition: "You may only use the
Website, the Services, the Records and any information you obtain through
all or any of these (together the "Resources") for your personal family
research."]
11.3 You agree not to assist or facilitate any third party to copy,
reproduce, transmit, publish, display, distribute, commercially exploit or
create derivative works of all or any of the Resources. You further agree
that you shall not, and shall not assist or facilitate any third party to,
systematically extract and/or re-utilise parts of the contents of the
Resources and in particular, you may not utilise any data mining, robots,
or similar data gathering and extraction tools to extract (whether once or
many times) for re-utilisation any substantial parts of the Resources. You
may not create and/or publish your own database that features substantial
parts of the Resources.
11.4 You agree not to use or allow the Services to be used for or by any
third party to access, or view any Records or download any material or
content of any Records, whether on a paid or gratis basis.
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Further details are available at:
http://www.findmypast.com/terms/index.jsp
If you wish to continue the discussion of copyright, kindly do so by
private communication, OFF-LIST.
Many thanks for your cooperation.
Kind regards,
John
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John Ball
Brecon, Mid Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
Joint Administrator - Powys RootsWeb Mailing List
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Williams" <sdwilliams(a)leafglow.com>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] 1911 census
Hello John,
Can you or anyone enlighten us on U.K. copyright law? I would be very
interested to know.
In the U.S., it is not a violation to make a new interpretation from a
public domain document even if the document comes in the form of a
microfilm or digital image that is under copyright. It is the creation of
the image itself that is copyrighted, not the data therein. What this
means, for instance, is that a person can look at a digital image of the
handwritten 1880 US census, extract data from it and distribute it if they
desire. Further, facts cannot be copyrighted in the US.
It would be good to make U.K. copyright law clear so that people will know
when they can help each other in their research and when they cannot.
Perhaps a good web page exists that spells it out clearly. I'm hoping it
isn't all discouraging news!
Best regards,
Steve Williams
IAGenWeb Iowa State Census Project Coordinator.
http://iagenweb.org/census/
IAGenWeb Iowa County Coordinator.
http://iagenweb.org/iowa/
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