Hi Clive
My Gardners/Gardeners/Gardiners are from Pontesbury/Welshpool and then Caersws,
Montgomeryshire now Powys! I haven't heard of an Andrew Gardner.
I am back in research to a John Frost in 1780 last heard of in Arley, Warwickshire I dont
think he would be the John Frost you mention, I'm pretty sure if he was a Chartist
Leader the information would have come down the Family Tree.
Thank you for your comments and interest Clive.
Best wishes
Shirley
-----Original Message-----
From: Clive Gardener <clive-gardener(a)tiscali.co.uk>
To: powys <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:29
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Llanllwchaiarn Birth?
Hi Shirley
Thanks for your reply.
Given the Forden marriage is the correct one, then I suspect the Knighton
irth will probably be your Benjamin Corfield.
I haven't yet linked the Gardeners with the Gardners - so I'm not sure about
mily Margaret Gardner. In the 19th century my Gardener ancestors were
iving between Gravesend and Chatham and on the Hoo Peninsula, not far from
he Isle of Grain, in Kent - Charles Dickens country! However, when I was at
chool in Harrogate, Yorkshire, I did have a friend called Andrew Gardner,
ut I have no idea where he is now or whether his family is connected with
mily. Perhaps?
Does your family have any connection with the John Frost family from
ewport, Monmouthshire, and Horfield, Bristol - the 19th century Chartist
eader?
Best wishes
Clive
ww.secret-bottletop.com
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o: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
ent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:18 PM
ubject: Re: [POWYS] Llanllwchaiarn Birth?
Hello Clive
Thank you very much indeed I can follow that up now after I have looked
where both places are on a map.
The marriage is Benjamin Corfield to Catherine Hughes in Forden.
Many thanks also for the Registration details.
Is Emily Margaret Gardner on your tree by any chance?
Best wishes
Shirley
In a message dated 27/07/2011 12:04:26 GMT Daylight Time,
clive-gardener(a)tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi Shirley
There seem to be two births for a Benjamin Corfield in the period you
mention, both of whom appear to have had a wife named Catherine. They
are:
DISTRICT VOL. PAGE
SEP 1845 Benjamin Corfield Knighton 26 240
DEC 1847 Benjamin Corfield Atcham 18 17
The two marriages are:
SEP 1872 Benjamin Corfield Forden 11b 293
married Catherine Hughes
DEC 1872 Benjamin Corfield Clun 6a 1141
married catherine Corfield
It would be worth contacting the local registration offices concerned
first,
to check the name of Benjamin's father, in order to determine which is
the
correct marriage before purchasing a certificate.
The Forden registration district seems to have been transferred first to
Welshpool and now to the Powys Register Office:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/forden.html
The Register Office
The Gwalia
Ithon Road
Llandrindod Wells
LD1 6AA
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=5528&L=0
Tel: 01597 826782 e-mail: registrars(a)powys.gov.uk
The Clun registration district registers are now held by the Shropshire
Register Office:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/clun.html
Certificate Applications
Shropshire Registration Service
PO Box 4661
Shrewsbury
SY1 9AL
http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/registrar.nsf/open/39D35A88B90FA2F2802570F10051
3442
Tel: 0345 678 9016
Even if the family home was at Llanllwchaiarn the birth could have taken
place at a relative's or friend's house. Knighton records now come under
Powys (see above) and Atcham under Shropshire (see above).
I hope this information helps!
Best regards
Clive Gardener
www.secret-bottletop.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <FrostSES(a)aol.com>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Llanllwchaiarn
Good morning
Could sks please look up Benjamin Corfield who was born (taken from
Census)
in Llanllwchaiarn circa 1845-1848. He emigrated to Canada in the early
1900's and last week a Corfield descendant contact me who knew nothing
about
any Corfield's in England. You can imagine how much information is
flying
back and forth through cyber space now. The lady has sent me a
photograph
of Ben and his wife Catherine Gravestone which says 1845-1919
and although I haven't found his birth I deduced from Censuses that he
was
born abt 1848.
Benjamin Corfield's parents were Benjamin and Adeliza nee Higgs.
I would be most grateful to the list if you can help.
Best wishes
Shirley (Frost)