Mike
Thanks for your reply . Elizabeth A Powell would have been married to
Hanley Harrison when they lived in Parksville so they would be the Harrison
family then . In 1997 I went to Victoria and stayed with their daughter Rene
James
Mary
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From: "Mike Powell" <mdpowell(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 3:45 PM
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [POWYS] POWYS Digest, Vol 7, Issue 54
Mary,
My apologies for being sloww to respond to your email.
>From the information I have at hand now, I don't see a connection to
>either your grandfather's brother JOHN POWELL or your father's cousin
>ELIZABETH ANN POWELL. However, this could still be so. Perhaps we'll know
>better one day when I have better information on the more recent members
>of the Powell tree.
I live about 90 minutes from Parksville, but do not know the Powells
there. Next time I'm up that way I'll keep a look out.
Mike
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> 1. Re: Montgomeryshire/Radnorshire border (mary.powell2)
> 2. Rail transport 1909... Lyonshall to Llanidloes (Carrol Drew)
> 3. Re: Rail transport 1909... Lyonshall to Llanidloes (Alison Bryan)
> 4. Powys interests (Roderick Ward)
> 5. Lloyds of Cefnbarrach (Roderick Ward)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:08:11 +0100
> From: "mary.powell2" <mary.powell2(a)ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Montgomeryshire/Radnorshire border
> To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
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> Hi Mike
>
> I don't know whether there is any connection ,but one of my grandfathers
> brothers JOHN POWELL ,although born in Hanwood Shropshire married in
> 1882
> to Ellen Pugh in Llanfair Builth Wells. They had 9 children . later when
> the
> parents had died the children move to Aberdare Glamorgan I am still
> trying
> to find and descendants of this family.
>
> Incidentally my father's cousin ELIZABETH ANN POWELL married Hanley
> Harrison
> and in 1901/2 they emigrated to Canada. Eventually they came to Vancouver
> Island and built a house at Harrison beach Auto Court at Parksville. I
> think
> they built holiday cottages there,
>
> Mary Powell
>
> Leicester UK
>
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> From: "Mike Powell" <mdpowell(a)gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:38 PM
> To: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
> Subject: [POWYS] Montgomeryshire/Radnorshire border
>
>> I'm looking for a map showing the M/R border at a sufficient level of
>> detail that I can pick out individual farms.
>>
>> I'm researching the Powells (and incidentally Hamers, Owens, Rees etc)
>> around and pre-1800 in the area bounded roughly by Llanbadarn Fynydd,
>> Llandinam, St Harmon and Abbycwmhir. I'd love to hear from anyone else
>> with similar interests.
>>
>> Mike Powell
>> Victoria, BC, Canada
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> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:10:45 -0400
> From: Carrol Drew <carrol.drew(a)sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [POWYS] Rail transport 1909... Lyonshall to Llanidloes
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> My husband's grandfather died in Lyonshall, HEF and was buried in Dol
> Halfren Cemetery, Llanidloes in 1909. His body was taken by train from
> Eardisley Station to Llanidloes as noted in the newspaper account below.
> Can
> any member of the list suggest the route the train would have taken? I've
> been trying to figure it out but there seem to have been so many
> different
> companies and lines that I'm quite confused.
>
>
>
> We are always very appreciative of the vast amount of knowledge of
> members
> of this forum and hope there is a train enthusiast who can help with this
> query.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any assistance that can be offered.
>
>
>
> Carrol Drew
>
>
>
> Kington Times
>
> May 8, 1909-8
>
> Lyonshall
>
> We regret to record the death at the age of 40 years of Mr
> William Francis, son of Mr & Mrs Francis, of the Holme, the sad event
> taking
> place on Tuesday, after a long illness, death being due to consumption.
> The
> first part of the funeral service was conducted at the Holme by The
> Reverend
> R R Davies, and interment took place at Llanidloes, deceased's native
> place
> yesterday (Friday), the coffin being conveyed by train from Eardisley
> Station. The chief mourners were Mr T Francis (brother), Mr R Francis
> (Luston), Mr Moore (Ashley) and Mr W Munslow (brothers-in-law), Mr
> Richards
> (Woonton Ash), Mr S Taylor (Holmesmarsh), and Mr T Thomas (Lyonshall).
> The
> funeral arrangements were carried out by Messrs Parker, Son, Co.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:38:29 +0100
> From: Alison Bryan <alison.bryan(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] Rail transport 1909... Lyonshall to Llanidloes
> To: powys(a)rootsweb.com
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> Hi Carrol
>
> Check this map out [PDF]:
>
http://www.geowiki.com/New_Adlestrop_Railway_Atlas.pdf
>
> The blue lines are lines that are currently open, the faded lines have
> since closed. Most of these were axed by Beeching
> (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beeching_Axe or similar links if you're
> interested).
>
> I would have imagined the route was via Builth Road and up to Llanidloes.
>
> Alison
>
>
> On 25 March 2012 18:10, Carrol Drew <carrol.drew(a)sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> My husband's grandfather died in Lyonshall, HEF and was buried in Dol
>> Halfren Cemetery, Llanidloes in 1909. His body was taken by train from
>> Eardisley Station to Llanidloes as noted in the newspaper account below.
>> Can
>> any member of the list suggest the route the train would have taken?
>> I've
>> been trying to figure it out but there seem to have been so many
>> different
>> companies and lines that I'm quite confused.
>>
>>
>>
>> We are always very appreciative of the vast amount of knowledge of
>> members
>> of this forum and hope there is a train enthusiast who can help with
>> this
>> query.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any assistance that can be offered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carrol Drew
>>
>>
>>
>> Kington Times
>>
>> May 8, 1909-8
>>
>> Lyonshall
>>
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?We regret to record the death at the age of 40 years of
>> Mr
>> William Francis, son of Mr & Mrs Francis, of the Holme, the sad event
>> taking
>> place on Tuesday, after a long illness, death being due to consumption.
>> The
>> first part of the funeral service was conducted at the Holme by The
>> Reverend
>> R R Davies, and interment took place at Llanidloes, deceased's native
>> place
>> yesterday (Friday), the coffin being conveyed by train from Eardisley
>> Station. The chief mourners were Mr T Francis (brother), Mr R Francis
>> (Luston), Mr Moore (Ashley) and Mr W Munslow (brothers-in-law), Mr
>> Richards
>> (Woonton Ash), Mr S Taylor (Holmesmarsh), and Mr T Thomas (Lyonshall).
>> The
>> funeral arrangements were carried out by Messrs Parker, Son, Co.
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:11:58 -0400
> From: Roderick Ward <rodericktward(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [POWYS] Powys interests
> To: POWYS(a)rootsweb.com
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> Hello. New to the list. Here are my interests:
>
> My most recent Powys ancestors are James Powell Brees, blacksmith, (born
> 24
> Nov 1784, Aberhafesp, died 1867 Shrewsbury) and Jane Pryce (born about
> 1794 in Llandinam, died 1863 in Shrewsbury). They were married 15 July
> 1809
> in Llandinam.
>
> I don't know for sure who Jane Pryce's parents were (and would love to
> find
> out).
>
> James Powell Brees' parents were Thomas Brees, blacksmith (died 29 Dec
> 1805, buried 2 Jan 1806 in Llanwnog) and Mary Powell (baptized 27 Feb
> 1754
> in Newtown, buried 15 Feb 1844 in Llanwnog). They were married 3 Feb 1784
> in Newtown. (Thomas had previously been married to a Mary Lewis.)
>
> I believe, although I am not absolutely certain, that Thomas Brees was
> the
> son of Thomas Brees and Ann Lloyd (married 26 Feb 1744/5 in Trefeglwys).
> I
> would be happy to see this confirmed (or disproved.)
>
> Mary Powell was the daughter of James Powell (maltster, buried 16 Jun
> 1780
> in Newtown) and Mary Thomas (buried 20 Feb 1792 in Newtown). They were
> married 11 Nov 1750 in Newtown.
>
> I don't know who Mary Thomas' parents were.
>
> James Powell is said to have been the son of a William Powell of
> Cilgwrgan,
> Llanmerewig, and the grandson of a William Powell and someone surnamed
> Pryce. Of course, I would like to know more about that.
>
> I am interested in the Lloyds of Cefnbarrach and the family of Andrew
> Brees, dyer, of Trefeglwys, under the assumption that I am descended from
> them, although I may be mistaken about that.
>
> Roderick Ward
> Canada
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 22:19:33 -0400
> From: Roderick Ward <rodericktward(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [POWYS] Lloyds of Cefnbarrach
> To: Powys(a)rootsweb.com
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> *I wonder if anyone can help me out with the origins of the Lloyd family
> of
> Cefnbarrach.
>
> In their article ?Traditional and Renaissance Elements in some late
> Stuart
> and early Georgian Half-Timbered Houses in Arwystli?, in Montgomeryshire
> Collections Volume 55, P. Smith and C.E.V. Owen note that: *
> *
> *
> *?Richard Bennett, M.A., in his note on the Lloyds of Cefn Barrach
> (Dolgoed, Llawr Penegoes, Glanrafon, etc. Pedigree 1922), wrote : "David
> Lloyd, commonly believed to have bought Cefn Barrach about 1691, was not
> the first of the line to own the place. The transaction in 1691 was
> rather
> that of redeeming a mortgage, than one of buying and selling. It is now
> known that the estate belonged to Lloyd's grandparents, who were both
> dead
> in 1672."
> From the statement made in 1648 by Edward Evans of Rhyd y Carw, that his
> property included "a Tenement and landes called Keven Barrode, in the
> possession off David Evans," one might conclude that the property was
> transferred from Edward Evans to the Lloyds round about 1650.?
>
> E.R. Morris, in his article ?Lloyd of Cefnbarrach, Trefeglwys,
> Montgomeryshire?, published in Cronicl Powys. No. 19 (1988), p. 12-15,
> has
> this to say about the earliest known Lloyd (a David Lloyd) of
> Cefnbarrach: *
> *
> *
> *[He] ?was dead before 1672 -- a deed of 1691 redeeming a mortgage by his
> grandson David Lloyd III mentions him and his wife Margaret Morgan. She
> may
> have been the heiress of Cefnbarrach -- a small estate which comprised
> Bwich yr helygen and Tylottyn as well. This first David Lloyd was a
> member
> of the Lloyd family of Cym-newidion in the parish of Llanfihangel y
> Creuddyn, Cardiganshire who were a cadet branch of the Lloyds of Mabws
> descended from Owain Gwynedd the 12th century prince of North Wales.?
>
> A family tree by Richard Bennett also has this David Lloyd as being of
> Cym-newidion.
>
> It is not clear whether these authors were aware of the 1653 PCC will of
> Edward Savage, which leaves his son, also named Edward Savage, the rent
> from a tan house and lands in Keven Barach in the tenure of John Brees (a
> nephew of Edward Savage, senior). The same will mentions that Edward
> Savage, senior, had purchased land (it is not clear to me whether it is
> the
> same land) from David Lloyd, Doctor of Law, and Edward Evans.
>
> Does anyone know what evidence exists linking the Lloyds of Cefnbarrach
> with the Lloyds of Cym-newidion? Or even better, what the line is?
>
> A number of Pedigree Resource Files on the LDS Family Search site
> identify
> this first David Lloyd of Cefnbarrach with the Warden of Ruthin (c.1596 -
> 1663), who was from the Berthlwyd Lloyds. Am I right in assuming that
> this
> is inconsistent with him being of the Cwm-newidion Lloyds? And is there
> any
> evidence that supports or contradicts the first David Lloyd of
> Cefnbarrach
> being the Warden of Ruthin, apart from the will of Edward Savage?
>
> All I know is that the Trefeglwys parish registers make it fairly clear
> that David Lloyd, the Warden of Ruthin, was married to a Margaret.
> (?David
> Lloyd, legum doctore?, is a godfather to a child of the vicar of
> Trefeglwys
> in 1630 and ?Marg'ta uxor Doctor Lloyd? is a godmother in 1632. David
> Lloyd, the father of Catherine Lloyd, baptized 1634, is described as
> Warden
> of Ruthin.) And the 1629 will of Richard Leighton (sheriff in 1599) left
> everything to David Lloyd, his wife Margaret, and their daughters Ursula
> and Dorothy.
>
> And finally, does anyone know more precisely what information is on the
> deed? (It sounds like it might be difficult to interpret.)*
>
>
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