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Dear List, I am looking for any information about my husband's family
connection to the BENBOW line from Montgomeryshire, Wales.
I have a little bit of info for a ,
Pryce Owen Bebow born 29/3/1775 died 13/10/1860, he was married twice,
1. Mary Boundford 1775 - 1819 to whom he had 10 children
2. Elizabeth Croft , no issue, they lived at Giant's Bank Farm, Llanmerewig,
Montgomeryshire.
His parents I believe are:
John Benbo 1746 - 1822 and Elizabeth Owen 1749 - 1808 they had 8 children.
I have nothing on his father or mother 's linage, who their parents where
and the family going back
I did find some info detail below from a web site but some of these
emigrated to USA only leaving John Benbow1697 - 1767 in Trefeglwys.
Could he be my link, but I cannot find out anything on him can anyone help
please.
I have try to include what I have to help someone understand what I am
looking for
Thank you all you read my request,
Yours sincerely
Sandra
Richard and Susanna Benbow had six children, as far as we know. They were:
(1) Thomas Benbow, born 7 October 1692, Trefeglwys Parish; nothing further
is known about him. His younger brother John apparently inherited the family
farm, so Thomas may have died young or without issue.
(2) John Benbow, born before 1 August 1697, Trefeglwys Parish, died before
12 May 1767, in Trefeglwys. He married Margaret Richards in 1731, and they
had issue. (This is the line from which Ronald Morris descends.)
(3) Susanna Benbow, baptized 11 April 1699, Trefeglwys Parish; nothing
further is known about her.
(4) Gershom Benbow (sometimes shown as Gershon, Gersham, Gresham), baptized
21 February 1700/01, Trefeglwys Parish, died between 12 January 1751 and 15
July 1751 in Bladen County, North Carolina. On 11 August 1726 he married
Sarah Powell, daughter of John Powell, at Goshen Monthly Meeting, Bucks
County, Pennsylvania. She preceded her husband in death. Gershom and his
brother Charles settled near each other in Bladen County, and "well-beloved
brother" Charles was named as one of the executors of Gershom's will.
(5) Richard Benbow (sometimes called "Benjamin" in America, but not in
Wales!), baptized 4 January 1702/03, Trefeglwys Parish; we do not know what
became of Richard and whether he married or had any children.
(6) Charles Benbow, baptized 25 February 1704/05, died between 25 January
1774 and 11 April 1775 in Bladen County, North Carolina. Before 7 May 1738,
he married Mary Carver, daughter of James Carver, Sr., who also settled in
Bladen County, North Carolina.
The two oldest brothers and an older sister remained in Wales. Their father
Richard Benbow had died several years before, and their mother Susanna had
married Edward Jennings. These three teenagers left the land of their birth,
their home, their family and friends, to make the arduous and dangerous sea
voyage to a new and unknown world.
Thank you, Shirley, for the compliment. I keep trying to add more to the
website and improve it. Contributions are welcome. I have a large "to do"
stack, so there is always more to come.
If someone knows or discovers the parents for John Benbow & Elizabeth Owen,
I'd be glad to see that information. I know that I do not have all the
children for Pryce Owen Benbow, so would welcome that info, also.
Liz Carmichael shared her cemetery photos, and those are on the website.
I would also welcome information on any other Benbow line in the UK or
elsewhere. Some of these lines have migrated to other parts of the UK,
Canada, and Australia and New Zealand. I try to verify what I receive or
find as much as I can, so supporting documentation is a wonderful bonus.
Katherine Benbow
Historian for the Charles Benbow Family: http://www.benbowfamily.com
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Shirley W. Vinall <s.w.vinall(a)reading.ac.uk
> wrote:
> Hi Sandra,
>
> I think we have been in contact about our Benbow links before. I have for
> some time been trying to confirm the parentage of my great-great grandfather
> Richard Benbow (or Bembow or Bembo) who was born about 1834 in Kerry (MGY),
> lived in Llanbadarn Fynydd and Llananno and died on 26 November 1862 at Rock
> House, Llananno (RAD). His marriage certificate identifies his father as
> Pryce Bembo, farmer. The two likeliest candidates are the Pryce Owen Benbow
> whom you mention, and Pryce's son Pryce Benbow (b. 1805, Kerry, d. 1872 in
> Monmouthshire). If it were the former, then he would have been a son of the
> second marriage. I don't think that marriage was without issue, as you
> suggest, as the 1841 census shows Pryce and Elizabeth with a 10 year-old
> daughter Jane.
>
> Liz Carmichael has done a lot of interesting research on this line (I think
> you have been in contact with her too), and Katherine Benbow's excellent
> website http://www.benbowfamily.com (which I take it is the one you refer
> to) is an extensive source on the Montgomeryshire Benbows, but I agree it
> doesn't trace this line further back than John and Elizabeth. So I too would
> be delighted if anyone has further information.
>
> All the best
> Shirley
>
>
>
Photos of: All Saints Church, Llangar, MER
Dear Listers,
The latest subject to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels
collection' is:
The 13th century All Saints Church and its 18th century lych-gate at
Llangar, in the old county of Merionethshire.
The photographs were kindly supplied by Glenys Travis.
Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/ and scroll down the index to the
relevant Llangar link.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2011.co.uk
Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists
Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society:
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What names/dates/places are you looking for Graham?
Regards,
Alison
-----Original Message-----
To anyone connected to/currently researching PROSSER family of
LlANGAMARCH,Brecon, please contact me sometime.
Graham.
Hi Alison and Graham,
There is a Prosser family near me ex NW BRE area, and I saw a new large
PROSSER SIGN up in Hereford by the Odeon Cinema.,, And good lady OAP I know
here in Llandrindod is from Llangammarch.......Yrs, Dennis in RAD, Powys.
In a message dated 15/06/2011 07:24:44 GMT Daylight Time,
alison(a)skippers.org.uk writes:
What names/dates/places are you looking for Graham?
Regards,
Alison
-----Original Message-----
To anyone connected to/currently researching PROSSER family of
LlANGAMARCH,Brecon, please contact me sometime.
Graham.
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To anyone connected to/currently researching PROSSER family of
LlANGAMARCH,Brecon, please contact me sometime.
I am still trying to get more information, and happy to share what I already
have.
Regards,
Graham.
Dear Listers,
A message purporting to be from Nancy Milne, containing a potentially
hazardous link, appeared on this mailing list yesterday. I hope that no one
clicked on the link.
I have temporarily unsubscribed the address from which the message was sent
until the person concerned can guarantee the incident will not recur.
Kind regards,
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Milne
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:29 PM
Subject: [POWYS] (no subject)
Hi Teena, There was a Havard man who worked on the railway gang after
the War and lived in the Builth Wells to Hay area and sadly comitted suicide
there after the War, . I think he worked with Mr Lloyd the GWR Ganger from
Newbridge-0n Wye - where I lived as a boy.......Dennis Cleaton,in RAD,
Powys. I can get more gen from my old Railway pals here.
_dcleatond(a)aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com) . The HAVARDS are NORMAN stock...
In a message dated 13/06/2011 19:00:45 GMT Daylight Time,
havardsofhay(a)gmail.com writes:
Hello All
Still searching for the HAVARD's of Hay & Cusop.
James b 1833 Huntington Herefordshire d 1915 age 78 at Hay M 1st Caroline
JONES 1860
2nd Hannah BEAVAN 22 Sep 1874
Thomas James b 5 Dec 1875 at Hay
James' parents Thomas b 1804 Glascwm Radnorshire & Margaret LLOYD M 9 Apr
1830 at Huntington.
I cannot find out who Thomas' parents were but Margaret's parents were
James
LLOYD & Margaret Harper.
Any info Greatly received :-) Teena
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Hello All
Still searching for the HAVARD's of Hay & Cusop.
James b 1833 Huntington Herefordshire d 1915 age 78 at Hay M 1st Caroline
JONES 1860
2nd Hannah BEAVAN 22 Sep 1874
Thomas James b 5 Dec 1875 at Hay
James' parents Thomas b 1804 Glascwm Radnorshire & Margaret LLOYD M 9 Apr
1830 at Huntington.
I cannot find out who Thomas' parents were but Margaret's parents were James
LLOYD & Margaret Harper.
Any info Greatly received :-) Teena
Hello, I am interested in the Llanllwchaiarn Memorial inscription booklet. How can I purchase one?
Also, looking for information in Llanllwchaiarn for WILLIAM NOCK m. ELIZABETH DAVIES. about 1797. She was from Gwestyd. I have information on one son, Evan (Nokes) and a bit on another son, Richard (Nokes). I believe other children remained Nock. I would like to find parents of William and Elizabeth.
Thank you for any help.Tomi
Hi,
Does anyone have the Llanllwchaiarn Memorial Inscriptions booklet? If it is
not too much of an imposition, would a lookup be possible?
Kind Regards,
Georgia
Thanks to the list members who have helped with the Llanllwchaiarn Parish
Records and/or Bishop's
Transcripts question. The tip to use Findmypast was a great help and the
lookups were the correct MEREDITHs, helping me with my brick wall.
:)
Hello Georgia.
I have found him on Findmypast.
Bap 22/08/1813.
Father Thomas Meredith a Weaver.
Mother Jane
Abode Milford at Llanllwchairn.
Ann.
From: Georgia <flashquarter(a)gmail.com>
To: POWYS(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011, 15:02
Subject: [POWYS] Llanllwchaiarn parish records?
Hello,
I am new to this list and am looking for a small bit of help. Does anyone
have a copy of the Llanllwchaiarn Parish Records and/or Bishop's
Transcripts? I am looking for the baptism of Richard MEREDITH, christened 22
AUG 1813 Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomery, Wales.
Kind Regards,
Georgia
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Alison Bryan wrote:
This database of stain glass windows in Wales might be of interest:
http://imagingthebible.llgc.org.uk/
==============
Dear Alison,
Thanks for letting us know about the launch of the NLW's 'Imaging the Bible'
project.
They already have fairly comprehensive online coverage of Wales, although I
was surprised to see 'Camden Town, London' included on the list! This
particular entry refers to a mural by Welshman Archie Rhys Griffiths in the
Working Men's College in Camden Town.
Archie Rhys Griffiths (1902 - 1971) was born in Aberdare but brought up in
Gorseinon on the outskirts of Swansea.
See: http://www.swanseaheritage.net/article/gat.asp?ARTICLE_ID=1876
I notice that some entries in the 'Imaging the Bible' database are currently
without photographs, but such a major project is bound to take time to
complete.
As a photographer of Welsh churches and chapels, I'm sure I'll make good use
of this new facility.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2011.co.uk
Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists
Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society
Hello,
I am new to this list and am looking for a small bit of help. Does anyone
have a copy of the Llanllwchaiarn Parish Records and/or Bishop's
Transcripts? I am looking for the baptism of Richard MEREDITH, christened 22
AUG 1813 Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomery, Wales.
Kind Regards,
Georgia
Photos of: St Bride's Church, Llansantffraed, CGN
Dear Listers,
The latest subject to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels
collection' is:
St Bride's Church at Llansantffraed, in county of Ceredigion /
Cardiganshire.
The photographs were kindly supplied by Edward Llewellyn-Jones.
Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/ and scroll down the index to the
relevant Llansantffraed link.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2011.co.uk
Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/
Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/
Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/
GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
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Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society
Hello Peter
Thanks again for replying. If I come across anything interesting in
the future then I will send the data to you. Did you get to Shrewsbury
in the end?
Best Regards
Glyn
>----Original Message----
>From: pjrich.ntl(a)googlemail.com
>Date: 04/06/2011 20:17
>To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
>Subj: [POWYS] Fwd: Peter Richardson Gwilts
>
>Hello Glyn
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: <glyndwr49(a)tiscali.co.uk>
>To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 4:58 PM
>Subject: [POWYS] Peter Richardson Gwilts
>
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Well as promised I have collated the data that I have on the
Gwilts.
>> It is not as much as I originally thought so I do hope that you can
get
>> some good data from it. I have not put the data in any particular
order
>> and as I said previously it is not co-ordinated in any way.
>
>
>Thanks for these.
>
>
>> 1841 census
>>
>> Mary Gwilt aged 75 and of independent means living on Edenhope
(farm?)
>> Mainstone with a group headed by the Thomas family namely John
Thomas
>> aged 45 a farmer.
>
>I did not have this one. There was a Richard Gwilt who married a Mary
>Evans at Mainstone in 1794, but at the moment I am only guessing whom
>she might be.
>
>
>
>
>> Family of Gwilts living in Churchstoke
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Gwilt aged 45 an agricultural labourer and his wife Sarah
45
>> and children Emma 10, Eliza 8, Stephen 5 all from the county except
>> Sarah.
>
>The most likely Richard was christened at Churchstoke 27th February
>1796, son of John Gwilt and Mary Henry. I will call this Family A as
I
>think you have them below as well. I found them in 1851 too - I have
>Richard as b.c.1796 Churchstoke and Sarah as b.c.1793 Shropshire. I
do
>not have a marriage for them yet though.
>
>The John who married Mary Henry I have as son of Francis Gwilt and
>Elizabeth Price
>
>
>
>> On the same page a Thomas Gwilt aged 25 a mason with his wife
Hannah
>> aged 30 and daughter Jane aged 1 all from this county.
>
>Thomas I have as christened 19th May 1811, son of John Gwilt and Mary
>Henry (brother of Richard in Family A). By 1851 Jane had been joined
>by brothers Joseph b.c.1843 and Thomas b.c.1847.
>
>
>
>>
>> A family of Gwilts living at Clomandy,in Mellington and possible
>> including the Susan Gwilt who went on to marry Edward Crow. I think
>> that you already have this record.
>>
>> John aged 50 a farmer, presumably his mother Mary aged 80 and
>> independent; and his children Hannah Gwilt 15, Susan Gwilt 10 and
John
>> also aged 10: He has four workers also registered at this address
>
>I will call this family B. I have John christened 25 April 1786 at
>Churchstoke son of Richard and Mary. Mary aged 80 is probably Mary
>Stephens who married a Richard Gwilt by licence at Churchstoke on
16th
>April 1782. I have found no connection as yet to Family A. I'd also
>say family B were significantly wealthier than family A.
>
>
>
>
>> Living at Pentrenant, in Bachedrie a Mary Gwilt, who could well be
the
>> future wife of William Crow, aged 15 a servant working with four
others
>> with the Sankey family under Richard Sankey aged 55 a farmer.
>
>Richard Sankey may have married Margaret Bright at Clun on 15th
>October 1829 as per the IGI. No further info yet - I hope to get to
>Shrewsbury this coming Thursday.
>
>
>
>> Another family of Gwilts including the possible parents of Mary
Gwilt
>> who has left home. Living in Churchstoke. I think you alreadt have
this
>> one.
>>
>> Richard Gwilt aged 45 a Agricultural Labourer, his wife Sarah Gwilt
45
>> and children Emma 10, Eliza 8 and Stephen 5.
>
>I think you have them already - Family A - see above.
>
>
>
>> 1851 census
>>
>>
>>
>> Francis Gwilt 30 a dairymaid and servant b Churchstoke and working
for
>> the Kilvert family on Crowood Farm Bacheldrie. Richard Kilvert the
head
>> being 58 and managing a farm of 255 acres and employing five
workers.
>
>
>There is a Frances Gwilt christened at Kerry on 22nd February 1824,
>daughter of John and Mary.
>
>
>
>> In the next entry there is a
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward Gwilt aged 28 a waggoner who was born in Beguildy. He is
working
>> for a Thomas Bheese? aged 23 and his cousin Mary Vaughan aged 25 on
>> Lake Farm. Thomas is a farmer managing 70 acres and employs 7
workers.
>
>Edward, son of Richard and Mary was christened at Kerry on 10th
>February 1828. The Kerry baptism confirms the Beguildy birthplace so
I
>am pretty sure that it is the same Edward. I think this Edward
>subsequently moved to Walsall and married Jane Corbett there. There
is
>more information about him in the archives of this list, but I think
>the researchers must have unsubscribed between now and then.
>
>
>> On a page having many of my Crow family a family of Gwilts
>>
>> John Gwilt aged 34 a Agricultural labourer from Kerry with his wife
>> Mary aged 42 from somewhere that looks like Slaidyside?
>
>Llandyssil I think.
>
>
>> and four
>> children Mary 8, Sarah 7 both born same place as their mother and
>> Eliza born Kerry and finally Margaret born Castlewright. They are
>> living at Pulley Pish??? a farm Castlewright as is one of my Crow
>> relatives.
>
>There is a John age 27 and Mary age 30 and William age 1 in
Llandyssil
>in 1841, who could be the same family.
>
>I have a John christened Kerry in 1814 son of John and Mary, so
>possibly brother of the Frances b.c.1824 who was working for the
>Kilvert family.
>
>
>> Jane Gwilt aged 14 a servant from Kerry living at the Farmhouse
>> Castlewright with a retired farmer John Thomas aged 76.
>
>Jane of Bahaillon, daughter of John (a labourer) and Martha was
>christened at Kerry on 22nd January 1837.
>
>I have found John age 45 and Martha age 30 in the 1841 at Bahaithlon
>Kerry. John born in Kerry, Martha born outside, children Morris 12,
>Charles 10, Jeremiah 7, Eliza 6, Jane 4, James 2 and Harriet 6
months.
>
>
>> 1861
>>
>>
>>
>> Francis Gwilt aged 55 a servant living in Old Churchstoke with the
>> Marsten family headed by Edward a farmer.
>
>There was a Francis Gwilt christened in Churchstoke in 1803, son of
>John and Mary Henry (see family A).
>
>Regards
>Peter
>
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Hi All,
I use Thunderbird as my email client,
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/thunderbird/ Available in 50+
languages (but not Welsh) with versions for Windows, Mac OS X and
Linux. As my wife has her own email address her emails are
automatically filtered in to her own Inbox. Once read and finished with
my emails are moved to sub-folders, arranged by Surname or Place. Once
a year, I Archive them, within Thunderbird. There is a powerful search
engine that can search at any level. Thunderbird now works like a
modern Internet browser so emails are shown as tabs - useful when
comparing several emails. The search engine could make indexing
unnecessary.
Independently there is a small separate program called MozBackup,
http://download.cnet.com/MozBackup/3000-2242_4-10260383.html, that backs
everything up. And I do mean everything. ALL those twiddly settings,
bookmarks and extensions can be copied to where ever. I have twice
upgraded computers and had no problem restoring the original data. (On
new computer download and install Thunderbird and MozBackup and then
using the restore function everything is up an running in a few
minutes.) MozBackup does the same for the FireFox browser.
Hope that's clear
Mike Yegwart
Branch Chairman
Bromsgrove BMSGH
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:13:05 +0100
> From: "John Ball"<john(a)jlb2011.co.uk>
> Subject: [POWYS] Storing and searching family history e-mails
> To: "Powys List"<powys(a)rootsweb.com>
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>
> Dear Listers,
>
> A while ago, someone on another Mailing List asked a question that all of us
> might usefully ponder:
> --------------
> "Can anyone give me an idea on how to index all of the emails I have that
> pertain to family history? Is there a way to copy them and slide them into
> an Excel spreadsheet? I don't want to print them all but it is beneficial
> to go back and re-read them. Something that didn't make sense two years ago
> might make perfect sense with added info."
> ---------------
>
> Here are my own thoughts on the subject.
>
> I expect we each have our own way of organising and storing our family
> history e-mails. All I can do is describe the system I've developed over the
> years, and which suits my own needs.
>
> I use Windows Live Mail (formerly Outlook Express) as my main e-mail
> program, and I've evolved a hierarchy of e-mail folders in Outlook Express
> in which I store my family
> history e-mails for future reference. Even though I delete e-mails that
> don't contain potentially useful information, I've accumulated over 12,000
> family history e-mails, going back to 1997. All of them are stored on my
> current computer (and backed up on a DVD-R disc). I refer to them every day,
> but very rarely print any of them.
>
> My main geographical areas of interest are Warwickshire, the Isle of Man,
> and Wales, so for these specific interests I've created three main e-mail
> folders named 'FH IoM', 'FH Warwicks' and 'FH Wales' (FH = family history).
> In each of these main folders I've created a number of sub-folders.
> For example, my FH IoM folder contains a sub-folder for each of the main
> surname lines that I'm researching, plus a sub-folder for all the relevant
> lookups I've answered (I'm a volunteer on the Manx Lookup Exchange website)
> and one for each of the contacts with whom I regularly exchange information.
> My FH Wales and FH Warwicks folders are similarly subdivided.
>
> I've also created a main folder for all genealogy mailing list interests,
> subdivided into the nine different lists to which I subscribe.
>
> Then I have a main folder for e-mail correspondence relating to the Wales
> sections of my website. This too, is subdivided into different subject
> areas, e.g. Images of Wales, Ancestor List, Wales of Old, etc.
>
> Finally there is a main folder for e-mails relating to various projects with
> which I'm involved, now or in the past. Each project has its own sub-folder.
>
> When e-mails arrive they are directed, either automatically or manually,
> into the main folders to which they relate. As I answer them, I move them
> into their final subfolders for storage. Unanswered messages are flagged by
> being marked as 'unread', so they do not get ignored.
>
> With thousands of messages stored in Outlook Express, finding specific
> e-mails could present problems.
> I do not have an index to my e-mails, but I have two methods of searching
> for e-mails relating to a particular topic:
>
> 1. I use Windows Live Mail's 'Find' function, especially if I know in which
> folder or subfolder the e-mail is likely to be stored. I then use the option
> to 'Find message in this folder...'.
>
> 2. I use the Google Desktop search tool, especially if I'm looking for
> e-mails that could be in many different folders or subfolders. Entering a
> key word in Google Desktop search box produces an instant result in my web
> browser, where I can look specifically at 'E-mails' as opposed to 'Files' or
> 'Web history'.
> For example, I've just conducted a Google Desktop search using the key word
> 'Breconshire'. Google found 482 e-mails on my computer containing the word
> 'Breconshire'. Google Desktop maintains its own continually updated index of
> all the material on one's computer, which enables it to produce an instant
> search result.
>
> I'd be very interested to hear how other Listers organise, store and search
> their e-mails.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> John
>