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Simon
our e-mails are coming through on the 'spam' box, so people may not be opening
them up
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From: egansmith simon <segansmith(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
To: powys(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010 12:33:28
Subject: [POWYS] [off topic] Having problems with email
Dear Listers
over the last few days I have replied to a number of emails sent to the
list, none of which seem to have got through. I have sent this email as a
test to see if it gets through.
Simon
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Hello
I've found the family on the 1901 census, and also the 1911. If you like, I can check furher back.
1901
Resident at 4 Powells Lane, Llanerclwyd
Samuel Jarman (father), born 1826, Machynlleth, Boot and shoe maker
Elizabeth Jarman (wife) born 1845, born Manafon
Elizabeth Mary, (daughter) born 1872, Welshpool, Housemaid
Sarah M. (daughter), born 1881, Welshpool. Dressmaker
Harriet E. (daughter) born 1881, Welshpool, Dressmaker
ALBERT E. (son), born 1884, Welshpool, Rural postman
Edith M. ( daughter) born 1886, Welshpool - no occupation given
Albert's family (on 1911 census)
Resident at 5 Lorne Street, Oswestry, Shropshire
Albert Jarman, aged 27, born 1884, Railway engine fireman
Emily Jarman (wife) aged 25, born 1886, Oswestry
Minnie Jarman (daughter), aged 4, born 1907, Oswestry
William Jarman (son), aged 3, born Owestry
Albert Jarman (son), aged 1, born 1910, Oswestry
Hope this helps you
Regards
(my paternal grandfather, William Williams, also worked on the Cambrian railway at the same time, as a driver. I wonder if they ever worked together)
---- Patrick Humby <patrick3007(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just started to research my maternal grandparents who I understand
> were born in Montgomeryshire. My grandfathers name was Albert (Ernest?) and
> I believe was born in a village near Welshpool, possibly Trewern. I also
> understand that he was a postman before joining the Cambrian Railway.
>
> Unfortunately Grandfather and grandmother both passed away before I reached
> 20years, my grandfather in 1948. And all their offspring have passed away.
>
>
>
> I wonder if this name has emerged in anybody's family tree research as any
> information would be most helpful.
>
>
>
> Kindest regards
>
> Patrick Humby
>
> Grandson.
>
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Dear Listers
over the last few days I have replied to a number of emails sent to the
list, none of which seem to have got through. I have sent this email as a
test to see if it gets through.
Simon
Hello Dawn,
This may/may not be of help to you but never know until you try,right?
My Chambers Family who moved over the border to Wales from Hereford lived in
a village called Burghill and at least one of the Chambers family married
into the Walters/Warlters family there .Katherine Chambers married William
Walters at Hereford Cathedral in 1746.
Hereford is about 25 miles from Abergavenny so not that far away.
Lots of people from that area migrated to the ironworks areas looking for
work so worth a look at the Burghill Registers I would think.
If you find a Burghill connection I would love to know,
regards Jill.
----- Original Message -----
From: "D & H Stanton" <dandh(a)intas.net.au>
To: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:44 AM
Subject: [POWYS] Parish Registers to search?
> Hello again Listers,
>
> I am still searching WATERS/WALTERS and I really don't know where to look,
> now.
> I think I might have to search every Parish Register between Monmouthshire
> and Brecon!! Unfortunately, I think the family is gone before 1841 Census,
> so looking at BDM's pre 1837.
>
> Highly likely the name is sometimes WATERS, sometimes WALTERS. Possibility
> my 'tree' only flowered once in Wales, with 3xGrtGrandmother, SARAH, born
> abt. 1815(transported 1833) - roots may lie in a border County and
> migrated
> into Wales for the Iron Ore and/or Coal; however, I have seen a few
> WALTERS
> who may well have been around for a while. I have a few definite RECORDED
> FACTS. so I figure if I join the dots on the map (or somebody who knows
> what
> they're looking at, does that) some likely Parishes might emerge to be
> searched.
>
> Death Cert info - born Abergavenny (nothing on Baps, but could be
> somewhere
> in 'hundred of Abergavenny') - possibilty baptised elsewhere when
> convenient.
> Baptism for Sarah WALTERS in Llanelly in 1817, parents John & Sarah.
> (Death
> Cert info says parents John & Martha - could be informant error.) Court
> records show Sarah
> 16yrs in Jan, 17 yrs in Oct, 1832. Baptism can be years after birth.
> Known Parishes where Sarah resided (per Court Records) - St.Michael Cwmdu
> and St. Michael Cathedine (both searched by Powys Archives Research - no
> result.)
>
> LDS film for LLanelly showed a DEATH of JOHN WATERS in 1826, aged 33yrs,
> abode - BRYN MAWR. This is a perfect match, for someone probably at the
> Iron
> Works
> and leaving an 11yr old daughter, I believe, to fend for herself. No other
> info on Burial List. Mother may have died years previously, re-married, or
> simply, "left".
>
> Drawing a line from Abergavenny to Llanelly to Cwmdu and Cathedine - can
> somebody tell me the likely Parishes in-between, to search for BDM's re
> WALTERS and/or WATERS???
> Apologies for lengthy query; if you have read this, thank you for your
> patience.
>
> Tried working it out on Genuki but ashamed to say, I keep getting lost!!
> Really desperate now, if I don't find anything this time round, I may have
> to admit defeat. All suggestions welcome and any help truly appreciated.
> Thank you.
>
> Kind regards,
> Dawn Stanton (Tasmania)
>
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Hello Patrick,
If you could tell us how old your grandfather was when he died ,It would help us to help you,giving us an approximate year of birth etc.
Lynne.
Hello,
I have just started to research my maternal grandparents who I understand
were born in Montgomeryshire. My grandfathers name was Albert (Ernest?) and
I believe was born in a village near Welshpool, possibly Trewern. I also
understand that he was a postman before joining the Cambrian Railway.
Unfortunately Grandfather and grandmother both passed away before I reached
20years, my grandfather in 1948. And all their offspring have passed away.
I wonder if this name has emerged in anybody's family tree research as any
information would be most helpful.
Kindest regards
Patrick Humby
Grandson.
Welsh WW1 Prisoners in a POW camp
This is an item of interest to anyone who had a relative who was taken
prisoner in the Great War. I have a photo of 23 prisoners from Wales taken
in a POW camp in Minden, Germany, during 1918 and someone on the list may
recognise one of these as one of their relatives.
My grandfather's brother, Thomas Williams, from Penmachno, was a tailor with
H R Davies, Abergele Road, Colwyn Bay, when he enlisted in December 1915.
He was injured in August 1916 and came back for hospital treatment but
returned to France again in 1917 only to be shot and captured during the
Battle of Cambrai at the end of November 1917. He was taken to a POW camp
in Minden and I have a number of photos taken inside the camp.
The most remarkable photo is that of 23 prisoners with the caption "Some
jolly boys of Wales". This postcard was sent to my mother, aged 9 at the
time, on 18 May 1918. I assume that this card was also sent to at least 22
other families in Wales. The photo can be seen by visiting
http://blogs.caernarfonherald.co.uk/hywelroberts/ where you can also read
more about Thomas Williams in the Great War.
Does anyone else have a copy of this postcard? Does anyone recognise a
relative in the photo?
Hywel Roberts
Welsh WW1Prisoners in a POW camp
This is an item of interest to anyone who had a relative who was taken
prisoner in the Great War. I have a photo of 23 prisoners from Wales taken
in a POW camp in Minden, Germany, during 1918 and someone on the list may
recognise one of these as one of their relatives.
My grandfather's brother, Thomas Williams, from Penmachno, was a tailor with
H R Davies, Abergele Road, Colwyn Bay, when he enlisted in December 1915.
He was injured in August 1916 and came back for hospital treatment but
returned to France again in 1917 only to be shot and captured during the
Battle of Cambrai at the end of November 1917. He was taken to a POW camp
in Minden and I have a number of photos taken inside the camp.
The most remarkable photo is that of 23 prisoners with the caption "Some
jolly boys of Wales". This postcard was sent to my mother, aged 9 at the
time, on 18 May 1918. I assume that this card was also sent to at least 22
other families in Wales. The photo can be seen by visiting
http://blogs.caernarfonherald.co.uk/hywelroberts/ where you can also read
more about Thomas Williams in the Great War.
Does anyone else have a copy of this postcard? Does anyone recognise a
relative in the photo?
Hywel Roberts
Retrospectives: Crai Reservoir, BRE; Strata Florida Abbey, CGN
Dear Listers,
This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are:
1. Crai Reservoir, at the head of the Swansea Valley in the county of
Breconshire (one picture).
This feature was first one of the first shown on 'Images of Wales' back in
December 1997.
2. The remains of the 800-year-old Strata Florida Abbey, near the village of
Pontrhydfendigaid in the county of Cardiganshire (eleven pictures).
This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in May 1999.
As usual, these webpages will be displayed on my website for at least one
week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm
After viewing the Retrospectives, please explore my 'Webpage Archive' and
make your own Retrospective requests.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
E-mail: john(a)jlb2005.plus.com
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Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/
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GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/
Brecknock FH Group Webmaster: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wlsbfhs/
Joint Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists
Hello again Listers,
I am still searching WATERS/WALTERS and I really don't know where to look,
now.
I think I might have to search every Parish Register between Monmouthshire
and Brecon!! Unfortunately, I think the family is gone before 1841 Census,
so looking at BDM's pre 1837.
Highly likely the name is sometimes WATERS, sometimes WALTERS. Possibility
my 'tree' only flowered once in Wales, with 3xGrtGrandmother, SARAH, born
abt. 1815(transported 1833) - roots may lie in a border County and migrated
into Wales for the Iron Ore and/or Coal; however, I have seen a few WALTERS
who may well have been around for a while. I have a few definite RECORDED
FACTS. so I figure if I join the dots on the map (or somebody who knows what
they're looking at, does that) some likely Parishes might emerge to be
searched.
Death Cert info - born Abergavenny (nothing on Baps, but could be somewhere
in 'hundred of Abergavenny') - possibilty baptised elsewhere when
convenient.
Baptism for Sarah WALTERS in Llanelly in 1817, parents John & Sarah. (Death
Cert info says parents John & Martha - could be informant error.) Court
records show Sarah
16yrs in Jan, 17 yrs in Oct, 1832. Baptism can be years after birth.
Known Parishes where Sarah resided (per Court Records) - St.Michael Cwmdu
and St. Michael Cathedine (both searched by Powys Archives Research - no
result.)
LDS film for LLanelly showed a DEATH of JOHN WATERS in 1826, aged 33yrs,
abode - BRYN MAWR. This is a perfect match, for someone probably at the Iron
Works
and leaving an 11yr old daughter, I believe, to fend for herself. No other
info on Burial List. Mother may have died years previously, re-married, or
simply, "left".
Drawing a line from Abergavenny to Llanelly to Cwmdu and Cathedine - can
somebody tell me the likely Parishes in-between, to search for BDM's re
WALTERS and/or WATERS???
Apologies for lengthy query; if you have read this, thank you for your
patience.
Tried working it out on Genuki but ashamed to say, I keep getting lost!!
Really desperate now, if I don't find anything this time round, I may have
to admit defeat. All suggestions welcome and any help truly appreciated.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Dawn Stanton (Tasmania)
Hi Listers
After contacting Legacy the problems have been more or less sorted out. The trouble-shooter on the Legacy website advised that I should download direct from one of the Legacy servers rather than the CD I have. All I had to do was type in the customer number I was given when I originally purchased Legacy 7 for the full re-install of the De Lux version.
Thank you to all the listers who answered my emails.
................................................David
Hi
It seems like Windows 7 has a lot to answer for!
My tale is somewhat different....first I had to update the old version
of Family Tree Maker which I had been running for years and
therefore very familiar and easy to use (version 6).. to use on my new
computer.
I was informed by a helpful supplier that the best version of Family Tree
maker for me was version 16 - which would still run on the new computer
( and it's new operating programme Vista) - which would be still compatible
with Vista- and be OK to run my old data (on version 6) - with a "patch".
Still with me?
Apparently the newer versions of Family Tree Maker - now up to version 20!?
and very different from the older ones......so I bought version 16 and found
it
worked and all my data was there....but I'm still struggling with the new
gizmos
to add in and update new information
This problem of familiarisation has not gone away with the updating of
the new computer to Windows 7 from that dreadful Vista...just makes life
more complicated.
The outcome is that my Family Tree maker programme is rather on the
back-burner now
whilst I store facts about family history in Word and Excel files.
Consequently I'm not updating any family trees for the time being - which
rather
makes the genealogy programme redundant.
One of my ancestral cousins uses Excel to produce outline family trees -
that is the links
between key individuals in each of several families - with separate colour
coding of the names
of the families, and also a box showing the abbreviations for the coding of
individuals
with the same name (ie John = J1 J2 J3).
Using this format - including diagonal lines - it's possible to get all the
main branches
of a family tree including names of individuals and their brief bmd's , all
on one A4 sheet.
Mine is complicated on a conventional family tree using Family Tree Maker,
covering
lots of sheets of paper...but because one can be selective using Excel - it
shows key
information in a comprehensive and understandable way
Hope this is of interest!
Richard
Hi Mike
Further my last email. I did as you wrote and Windows 7 tried to run Legacy in XP mode. The error messages disappeared but the computer still froze and hung up on shutdown. The compatibility software also finds that it is an “incompatible application” so I have uninstalled it again.
Many thanks for your input..............................David
Hi Mike
Thank you for your input. Yes, I did know there is a facility to run programs for previous versions of Windows but as I have only had Windows 7 for a few days I was not sure how to use it. Your explanation about it is perfectly clear and I will give it a try.
.........................................David
Dear Nicola
Thank you for your input.
The baptism sounds as though it could be right but they have the child as male not female, so perhaps another brother of Ann.
Re 1861 census you found -that IS my family. John doesn't appear in my research until 1901 census when he is living with Ann/ Johannah as her brother and his age is stated as 73yrs and place of birth Brecon Barracks.
Re 1851 census - creates another problem as they are down as nephew and nieces not their children - Ho Hum! Definitely intrigueing.
Thanks again for info - I really appreciate the effort you have gone to.
Kind Regards
Mary
Australia
Hi David,
If you are using Windows 7 there is in the Control Panel a legacy
operating system. Control Panel>Programs (in green)>Programs and
Features> click on "Run programs made for previous versions of
Windows". A program Compatibility wizard then pops up. Follow
instructions.
When you next open Legacy 7.04 There is a hiccup on the screen whilst
the program loads. You are asked via a "User Account Control" if you
want to let the program take control of your computer. Say Yes.
Any other program you already have open or any new one still operates
under Windows 7.
Hope that makes sense
Mike
I have just got Family Tree Maker 2011. Upgraded from v16. Very big
and powerful, loads a lot quicker then v16, even though I have a lot of
images of census documents and photos, etc. Stores them outside the
main program.
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> 3. Re: POWYS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 308 (Nicola Bennett-Jones)
> 4. Re: Window 7 and Family Tree Software (John Ball)
> 5. Windows 7 and Family Tree Software - Replies. (David James)
> 6. Re: Can anyone help? (Martin Hodgson-Brown)
> 7. Photos of: St Bartholomew's Church, Llanover, MON (John Ball)
> 8. Re: Window 7 and Family Tree Software (Martin Hodgson-Brown)
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> Hi Listers
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> For the past few years I have been using Legacy Family Tree 7.04 software, but after updating to Windows 7 I find it does not work very well. Research on the Web shows that this is a common problem with Legacy and many other popular family tree databases because the manufacturers have not updated their software. However, according to what I have read it seems that Roots Magic 4 (standard addition) works perfectly well with Windows 7.
>
> Before I buy a copy can any listers who are running Roots Magic 4 with Windows 7 let me know whether it works OK or if they have had any problems.
>
> Many thanks.......................................David
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Dear List
Does anyone have the up to date e-mail address of Kyle D Williams who has transcribed various censuses of the area around Llandeilo'r Fan which are the web.
He lives in Woodbury, TN37190
I have sent some amendments to his listings to liberty(a)hotcom.net but they have bounced back.
Thanks
Malcolm