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Hi Jane
At this stage, I have no idea who she was related to - she seems to be a
serial bride :o)
I'll keep your details if you don't mind as I am in the early stages of
researching this lady & may find the link. I haven't found any baptisms in the
local parish church for her children so wondered if perhaps she was a non
conformist.
Bye
Eileen
Hi Glyn
Thank you very much for your help - that is the Elizabeth I'm looking at.
Her daughter Margaret, married my 2 x gt uncle & emigrated to Irwin in
Pennsylvania. I just met up with her descendents last week & I became intrigued by
Margaret so decided to research her.
Elizabeth goes on to marry another William Powell in 1871; the 1st William
Powell died in 1866.Very confusing but that's the fun of it.
Hope you are keeping well & your research is going well too.
Bye
Eileen
Montgomeryshire Genealogical Society has recently published the following
booklets:
a) Memorial Inscriptions
MI/40 Carno: Parish Church & Chapels [3rd ed] £7.50
MI/83 Kerry: Parish Church £6
MI/84: Kerry: Cemeteries & chapels £4.50
b) Parish Registers
PR/53 Hirnant: M 1601-1958; B 1600-1990 £6
PR/54 Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa M 1662-1813; B 1662-1812 £7
C/11 Welshpool: Bapts 1772-1812 [2nd ed] £8
C/30 Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa: Bapts. 1662-1812
B/18 Llanfyllin: Burials 1813-55 £4
For a full list of previous publications and how to purchase, and other
links, please see:
http://home.freeuk.net/montgensoc/pages/pubns.htm
The MI series is of memorial inscriptions. These booklets are the result of
the work of teams of transcribers. All partly legible or otherwise obscure
inscriptions are subjected to further research involving Parish Registers,
Bishop's Transcripts and GRO indexes wherever appropriate, and are therefore
quite comprehensive.
The PR series is of Parish Registers, again the work of volunteer
transcribers. [C=Christenings, M=Marriages, B=Burials]. Gaps and illegible
sections in the registers are supplemented by entries from the Bishop's
Transcripts. The publications are therefore again quite comprehensive.
You may also find it of benefit to join the society which publishes a
journal three times a year.
Bryn Ellis
Dear Listers,
I noticed the newspaper obituary yesterday of Peter Clement Bartram, the
highly respected genealogist who was particularly famed for his research
into the genealogies of old Welsh families.
Amongst his published works were: 'Welsh Genealogies AD 300-1400'; 'Welsh
Genealogies AD 1400-1500'; and 'Early Welsh Genealogical Tracts'.
Dr Bartram was in his 101st year.
His obituary is accessible on-line at http://tinyurl.com/3fooey
Kind regards,
John
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Does anyone have a Ivor Morgan in their family tree, please?
I have just received a copy of the death certificate of my Samuel Smith who
died aged 67 years at Yscoedreddfin Traiangias Trecastle on the 8 September
1935.
Person present at Samuel's death was Ivor Morgan son-in-law of the same
address.
Thanks
Heather in West Yorkshire
Good morning list
I am new to this list. I am researching my 2 x gt aunt Margaret BOULDIN nee
PRICE. In the 1871 census she says she was born in Kilwhibert in Breconshire.
I have now found that Cilwhybert is or was the name of a farm / house in the
parish of Llanspyddid.
I have found Margaret's father & mother, Rees & Elizabeth Price in
Llanspyddid in the 1851 census but Margaret is missing. In 1861 Rees has died &
Elizabeth has remarried William POWELL & Margaret is with them aged 11 years. I
have no idea where she could be in 1851, a search of the census index on
Ancestry does not reveal anyone remotely likely.
Margaret emigrated to Irwin, Pennsylvania in 1878/1880 & was a member of the
Baptist church there; I have been unable to find a baptism for her in
Llanspyddid parish church & wonder if anyone knows if there was / is a chapel in
this area she may have attended?
Thanks
Eileen
Dear kind and helpful people,
I have two William EDWARDS in my family tree and I have not been able to find a way to identify their deaths (well even their births) I know that the first William was married to Elizabeth BUXTON on 11th of October 1828 and seems to be in the 1861 census remarried aged 56 years. At this time he is listed at Maestrefgomer and Bodaioch (I don't actually know where this is but somewhere near Trefeglwys)
with a new wife. I cannot find evidence of him later.
William EDWARDS number 2 married Ann LLOYD on 19th June 1828 in Merthyr Tydfil and was dead by his daughter's wedding day in 1855. His daughter Sarah variously lists her birth place as Bedwelty, Dowlais and Blackwood. I can't find him on any census ...don't know why. . with a wife Ann and a daughter Sarah the names are too common and I do not know any sisters or brothers names.
Any way if anyone can help I would be very grateful.
Cheers,
JILL Cummins
Melbourne, Australia
Pictures of: The Bridge at Pontrypridd, GLA; and Brychgoed Chapel, Heol
Senni, BRE
Dear Listers,
This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, include:
1. The 250-year-old 'new' bridge at Pontypridd in the county of Glamorgan
(seven pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in
February 2003.
2. A two-page exploration of the remotely situated Brychgoed Independent
Chapel and its graveyard, in the parish of Defynnog, county of Breconshire
(seventeen pictures). This feature was first shown on 'Images of Wales' in
June 2004.
As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/retro/retro.htm
After viewing the Retrospectives, why not explore my 'Webpage Archive' and
make your own Retrospective requests.
Kind regards,
John
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Message below forwarded to List on behalf of Margaret, whose address
<williamj(a)crouch37.freeserve.co.uk> is not currently subscribed to the List.
Please send any response directly to Margaret as well as to the List.
John Ball
Joint List Administrator
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Crouch" <williamj(a)crouch37.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <leselaine(a)sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:51 PM
Subject: re POWYS Tawel Fan, Llanbrynmair
Dear Leslie
Thank you very much for taking an interest in my Evans family of
LLanbrynmair. I see that you've already had a response from Rina Callingham
explaining why she doesn't think there's likely to be a connection between
your family and mine, and I have to agree with her.
This genealogy business is fascinating isn't it?
Regards, Margaret
A little background that might be of interest:
"I came across your research on Bebb family history while googling 'Tawelfan'. My parents have lived in the old farmhouse of Tawelfan for the past 15 years. The old farmhouse was derelict for many years prior to its refurbishment in the late 1980's, the old part of the house is still intact, with its original inglenook fireplace and its said to date back to the 15th century and we believe that it was known as a meeting place. Tawelfan is translated as Quiet-place, it a wonderful location with views looking down on the villages of Llan and Llanbrynmair."
Cheers,
Malcolm
Thanks Malcolm, It is nice to see you online today re Llanbrynmair. I am
busy ref the Lost Street Lights in Powys CC area these days, all in the press
today!!
Best wishes, Dennis Cleaton _dcleatond(a)aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)
HER MAJESTYS BIRTHDAY
This day was celebrated at Swansea with the usual demonstrations of loyalty
the fine bells of our Parish Church sending forth their merry sounds at
intervals from early morn until dewy eve, in honour of the event.
ROYAL COLLEGE OF SURGEONS Among the names of the various gentlemen who
have undergone the necessary examination for their diploma at this college,
we observe that of our young townsman, Mr. James COUCH.
VESTRY MEETING- A Vestry Meeting was held at the Vestry Room of the Parish
Church, Swansea, on Friday last, for the purpose of auditing and passing the
Churchwardens accounts for the past year. The Rev. E.B. SQUIRE, Vicar,
presided, and Mr. GASKOM attended in the absence of Mr. J.G. JEFFREYS, the
Vestry Clerk. The attendance of parishioners was small as usual, there being
nothing of an exciting character to attract attention. The auditors
appointed were Mr. James JAMES, and Mr. Joseph RICHARDSON, who, after a
careful examination of the different items, pronounced the accounts to be
correct, and they were passed pro forma. The total amount of the receipts
for the year was £335.19s.9d., and the expenditure amounted to £285.1s.8d.,
leaving a balance in hand of £50.18s.1d. Mr OAKSHOT, the Vicars Warden
however explained that there were sums due which would nearly amount to the
surplus, but these were not brought forward in consequence of the bills not
being received in time. The fabric was pronounced to be in an excellent
state of repair, and was considered not to require any more outlay on it for
sometime.
SWANSEA UNION WORKHOUSE - A strong feeling prevails amongst a large body of
the ratepayers against the building being erected on the proposed site. It
is said that a public meeting of the ratepayers, with a view to deliberate
and take their opinions on the matter, is in contemplation.
Lyn
In Oz.
Hello List,
Hoping someone may be able to help me identify some more detail about the Rev. D. Jones from the following passage found in a tribute to Rev. Roger Howell of Beckington:
"After spending some of his early years in schools in the neighbourhood, he was removed to Brecon, and placed under the care of his maternal uncle, the Rev. D. Jones, who officiated there as a dissenting minister and kept a seminary for the education of youth."
That's all it says I'm afraid. Rev. Howell was born circa 1742 and would probably have attended his uncle's seminary during the period 1755-1761 - after which he attended Carmarthen Presbytarian College. Rev. Jones might possibly have been born around 1710-20.
It's a long shot I know, but does the name ring any bells for anyone?
For grateful for any help,
Rina
http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html
Hi Leslie,
Am I right in thinking that you believe Catherine Jones and Anne Owen to be
daughters of Evan & Gwen?
Look like you will need to refer to the parish records to confirm this, as
all of Evan & Gwen's children appear to have left home by 1841. If you
can't find appropriate baptism records, you may have more luck with marriage
records. Records of marriage banns (if they exist) can sometimes be more
helpful than the marriage records themselves as they may give some detail of
the family home (as opposed to the place of residence at the time of
marriage).
I don't think Margaret's Evan Evans is closely related to your Evan & Gwen
as, with an approx DOB of 1835, he was too young to be their son (and wasn't
recorded with them in 1841) and was too old to be their grandson (son of
Richard). He also consistently gives his place of birth as Garthbeibio
which doesn't seem to suggest a connection to your family.
Also, have you tried looking for a will? If one exists, it's often one of
the best way of confirming family ties.
Best wishes in your search,
Rina
http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie Michaelson" <leselaine(a)sbcglobal.net>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Pandy and Tafolwern, Llanbrynmair
> Hi Ria,
> I'm new on the list and wondering if I have any connections here with Evan
> Evans and Hannah at Pandy Hamlet, Llanbrynmair in 1881.
>
Ellen Edwards <ellenonpine(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
I'm in awe at the age of these stone buildings you find. St. Cynin Church
must look quite fascinating inside - built in 13th to 15th
centuries. Are there other photos to share? And - who was St. Cynin??
==============
Dear Ellen,
I have a few other photos of the exterior of St Cynin's, but none of the
interior. The church was locked on both of my visits.
Breverton (2000) has the following entry for St Cynin:
----------------
Cynin (Cunignus) 5th-6th century
The son of Tudwal Befr, by Nefydd a daughter of Brychan, and the founder of
Llangynin near St Clears in Carmarthen[shire]. St Clears may also have been
a Cynin foundation, where he may have been counted as a bishop. Nearby is
Afon [river] Cynin, three farms named after him, and a stone inscribed
'Cunegni' (probably his gravestone) was found at Newchurch and is now at
Traws Mawr. In the graveyard at Eglwys 'Gummun' a stone was found inscribed
in Ogham and Latin, commemorating Cynin's daughter Avitoria: 'AVITORIA FILIA
CUNGINI'.
---------------
Source: BREVERTON, T. D. (2000) "The Book of Welsh Saints", Glyndwr
Publishing, Cowbridge, Glamorgan. ISBN 1-903529-01-8
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
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Hi Margaret,
With the details you give, an Evan Evans, born circa 1874 at Llanbrynmair is
enumerated with parents, Evan (a general labourer) & Hannah at Pandy Hamlet,
Llanbrynmair in 1881. The parents are both recorded as being 69 years old,
which given that the 4 children in the household (ages 7-12) are described
as being their children rather than grandchildren, seems to be a mistake.
The children are Charles (12), Mary & Martha (both 9) and Evan (7).
Searching for the same family in 1871 (using eldest son, Charles as a point
of reference), they are enumerated at 10 Pandy, Rhiwsaeson, Llanbrynmair.
Evan and Hannah are both recorded as being 36 years of age in this census.
As in 1881, Evan's place of birth is recorded as Garthbeibio, Mont. while
Hannah was born in Llanbrynmair. As well as 2 year old son, Charles they
have a 5 year old daughter, Anne.
Looking back to 1861, Evan & Hannah were already married and living at
apparently the same address with a 2 year old son, John. They are both
recorded as being 26 years old. Evan is an Ag. Lab. & Hannah is a wool
weaver. FreeBMD has a possible marriage for an EWvan Evans and a Hannah
Evans in the Dec. Quar. of 1858 at Machynlleth.
Jumping ahead to 1891, this couple were living at Tafolwern (similar in
sound to Tawel Fan), with only their 1 year old grandaughter, Mair. They
are both recorded as being 56 years and Evan is a general labourer. In
1901, they are at Penygraig, Tafolwern with a 9 year old niece, Elizabeth
Evans. Do you think the name Olwern could be derived from Tafolwern?
Rina
Ref: ancestry.comhttp://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret Crouch" <margaret.crouch23(a)yahoo.co.uk>
To: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Tawel Fan, Llanbrynmair
> One of my grandfathers, Evan Olwern EVANS,was born in 1873/4 in
> Llanbrynmair. He died in 1910 in Bedlinog, Glamorgan where he was a
> congregational minister. (His father's name also was Evan Evans, a wood
> ranger according to his son's marriage certificate). I'm having some
> problems identifying the family, but I've just remembered that my uncle
> gave his house the name Tawel Fan , saying that there was a connection
> with his father's family.
> I believe there was a farm of this name in Llanbrynmair. Does anyone know
> anything about it?
>
> Hopefully, Margaret
Margaret
I have made a transcription of the Llanbryn-Mair register of baptisms for
the period. However the only entry near the date you suggest is as follows:
6 Jan 1880 Evan William Evan son of Evan Evans
and Margaret of Trefolwern [exact spelling in the register but may be a
misspelling by the curate of Tafolwern which is a township in the parish]
The father is recorded as a labourer.
Kind regards
David Stick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Margaret Crouch" <margaret.crouch23(a)yahoo.co.uk>
To: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Tawel Fan, Llanbrynmair
> One of my grandfathers, Evan Olwern EVANS,was born in 1873/4 in
> Llanbrynmair. He died in 1910 in Bedlinog, Glamorgan where he was a
> congregational minister. (His father's name also was Evan Evans, a wood
> ranger according to his son's marriage certificate). I'm having some
> problems identifying the family, but I've just remembered that my uncle
> gave his house the name Tawel Fan , saying that there was a connection
> with his father's family.
> I believe there was a farm of this name in Llanbrynmair. Does anyone know
> anything about it?
>
> Hopefully, Margaret
>
>
>
>
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One of my grandfathers, Evan Olwern EVANS,was born in 1873/4 in Llanbrynmair. He died in 1910 in Bedlinog, Glamorgan where he was a congregational minister. (His father's name also was Evan Evans, a wood ranger according to his son's marriage certificate). I'm having some problems identifying the family, but I've just remembered that my uncle gave his house the name Tawel Fan , saying that there was a connection with his father's family.
I believe there was a farm of this name in Llanbrynmair. Does anyone know anything about it?
Hopefully, Margaret
Hi Ria,
I'm new on the list and wondering if I have any connections here with Evan
Evans and Hannah at Pandy Hamlet, Llanbrynmair in 1881.
One of my grandfathers, Evan Evans was born 1786 and died 02 Jan 1880 in
Glandwr, Llanbrynair.
He was married to Gwen Humphrey 06 Oct 1810.
Their children: Jane, Margaret, Ann, Elizabeth (born Sept. 1824 and d.17
April 1881), Richard (b.15 September 1827 and died
16 July 1916 in Glynteg, Llanbrynmair), and Evan.
Richard married Sarah O6 Oct 1856. Richard was a Boot & Shoe Maker. Their
children: Richard David, Evan, Edwin, Alfred, Hewell, Ann and Mary.
Elizabeth married Nicholas Jones. Their children: Mary Ann, Samuel and
Evan.
I have Catherine Jones, died 1880 in Pandy, Llanbrynmair and Anne Owen died
1880 in Melia Tafolwern, Llanbrynmair. She was married to Richard Owen.
I'm having problems connecting Catherine and Anne within the family tree.
Sincerely,
Leslie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rina Callingham" <emma.callingham(a)tesco.net>
To: <POWYS(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Tawel Fan, Llanbrynmair
> Hi Margaret,
> With the details you give, an Evan Evans, born circa 1874 at Llanbrynmair
> is
> enumerated with parents, Evan (a general labourer) & Hannah at Pandy
> Hamlet,
> Llanbrynmair in 1881. The parents are both recorded as being 69 years
> old,
> which given that the 4 children in the household (ages 7-12) are described
> as being their children rather than grandchildren, seems to be a mistake.
> The children are Charles (12), Mary & Martha (both 9) and Evan (7).
> Searching for the same family in 1871 (using eldest son, Charles as a
> point
> of reference), they are enumerated at 10 Pandy, Rhiwsaeson, Llanbrynmair.
> Evan and Hannah are both recorded as being 36 years of age in this census.
> As in 1881, Evan's place of birth is recorded as Garthbeibio, Mont. while
> Hannah was born in Llanbrynmair. As well as 2 year old son, Charles they
> have a 5 year old daughter, Anne.
> Looking back to 1861, Evan & Hannah were already married and living at
> apparently the same address with a 2 year old son, John. They are both
> recorded as being 26 years old. Evan is an Ag. Lab. & Hannah is a wool
> weaver. FreeBMD has a possible marriage for an EWvan Evans and a Hannah
> Evans in the Dec. Quar. of 1858 at Machynlleth.
> Jumping ahead to 1891, this couple were living at Tafolwern (similar in
> sound to Tawel Fan), with only their 1 year old grandaughter, Mair. They
> are both recorded as being 56 years and Evan is a general labourer. In
> 1901, they are at Penygraig, Tafolwern with a 9 year old niece, Elizabeth
> Evans. Do you think the name Olwern could be derived from Tafolwern?
>
> Rina
> Ref: ancestry.com
> http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html
Dear Listers,
The latest three subjects to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels
Collection' are all from Carmarthenshire:
Nazareth Chapel, Pontyates, Llangyndeyrn (photos by Pat Powell)
Bryn Chapel, Llangynin (photo by John Ball)
St Cynin's Church, Llangynin (photo by John Ball)
Go to:
www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/search-fram.htm
and scroll down to the relevant Llangyndeyrn and Llangynin links.
Kind regards,
John
--------------------
John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK
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