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Hi,
Searching back I find at least 3 generations of James Duppe's in Glascwm.
Each appears to have been a Church Warden at St David's in Glascwm ( In the
1800's). Could someone tell me the duties of a Church Warden. Also how where
they picked. Most of my family were Ag Labs and none of them seem to have been
selected to be Wardens.
If anyone has researched the Duppe's or Duppa's family from the Glascwm area
would be interested in talking to you. My ancestor was Sarah "Duppah"
married to Edward Jarman in Llansanfraed.
Thanks, Jim
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Hi Arlene,
Although I have Davis/Davies in my line, it does not sound like we
are related.
I still wanted to respond to your message to give you some
encouragement about finding
birth records for your ancestors who were born in Wales. I, too, had
hunted and hunted
and no success, with common names and not knowing exactly where they
were from.
But I did eventually find the births of all the children -- my great-
grandmother and her
siblings -- and discovered where in Wales the family had lived when
each of the kids was born.
My suggestion, if you have not already done this, would be to send a
message to
this list with whatever details you do have about the ones born in
Wales -- full names,
whatever you know about ages, etc, and maybe somebody will have an
idea or a connection.
(I actually found mine, initially, through the Carmarthen list --
family lore said they were from
Llanelly, which is a city in Carms. Somebody on the Carms list found
them in a census -- living
in the parish/region of Llanelli in Breconshire. Once I had that bit
of info, I was able to find them.)
The other suggestion has to do with your grandfather who died in New
York. You mention
his gravestone. Do you also have his actual death certificate? If
not, you might try to obtain that
document. Some of my ancestors died in Pennsylvania, and when I got
their death certificates,
one or two of them were particular gold mines of info, listing even
the parents' names which allowed
me to go back another generation. (If you google New York or the
county name, you'll probably
be able to find the office to contact regarding death certs.)
Good luck!
Norma in Colorado
On Oct 21, 2008, at 1:01 AM, powys-request(a)rootsweb.com wrote:
>>
>> I have been looking for for my grandfather for 4 years now. Have
>> his grave
>> stone here in Salisbury Ctr, NY Thomas Davis, 90 years old when
>> died. Son,
>> David D. Davis and his son Thomas, ages 70, abt 40 and abt 12 when
>> came over
>> from Wales. Davis D. supposedly met his second wife aboard ship, Mary
>> Roberts, first child Margaret born in Stuben, NY They had 8
>> children in all,
>> my grandfather Stephen was the last one born in 1871. I can find
>> all the
>> siblings here in Herkimer county. I cannot find what ship they
>> came over in
>> or where in Wales they came from. All censers just say Wales. Good
>> luck and
>> if by chance someone is reading this and can help me, it would be
>> appreciated. I have belonged to this group a few years now and read
>> everything pertaining to the Davis/Davies. Arlene
>>
Hello List,
With all the talk about the surname Davies I thought I'd throw my family names out there too. I have a John and Elizabeth (Prosser) Davies married 2 Nov 1834 Llanelly, Bre. They were probably born abt 1810. They lived in Monmouthshire in 1841 then emigrated to Pennsylvania sometime around 1841. I believe they lived in Bedford then Bloom, Columbia County in 1860. On this 1860 census they live with Sarah Prosser, Elizabeth's mother. I can't find anything about John and Elizabeth after the 1860 census and I have no information on John's family in Wales.
I also have an Esther Ann Davies b. about 1806 Glascwm, Rad. who married William Lewis 19 July 1827 Glascwm. I don't know anything about her family.
Do these people sound familiar to anyone out there?
Best regards,
Tomi
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I have my ancestors Richard JONES and wife Gwenllian in the 1851
census, his entry says birthplace unknown although in 1861 it's
Montgomeryshire. Gwenllian has just named the county of birth, place
unknown. Please can anyone confirm that it says Pembrokeshire, or is it
another county.
The page is 1851 census, piece 2458, Folio 155, page 24, for Merthyr
Tydfil, I would appreciate any help with this Gwenllian, possibly nee
WILLIAMS.
Kind regards,
Cate
Thanks Margaret, We are away in Hants this week, so I will call you again
then. I am still doing the Roman DNA stuff with Chester Museum and a few
others at ISOOG, all very interesting too! Yrs, Dennis
Hello Dennis,
Thanks for your email. I have Evans ancestors who lived at Nantymestyn,
Cwmdeuddwr, Rhayader however I am sure we have already checked to see if
there is a connection to your Llanwrthwl ones and couldn't find one.
My Mills moved to Llangurig about 1911 from Llananno, Radnorshire so there
is no history of them living in the parish and I haven't found any in the
Newbridge area.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Margaret Harvey
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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
> Thanks for this Margaret,
>
> There was a Fred? Mills, a postman in Newbridge-on -Wye in WW2 days, and
> he
> ran the big Radnorshire Co Store shed at the GWR railway station, and the
> weighbridge there. I think he or his wife were from Llangurig, and were
> related
> to my Uncle Richard Hamer Evans, who's mother Mary Jane Evans from
> Rhayader
> was my Gt Grandmother - married to Thomas Evans at Llanwrthel in
> 1875.........
> Best wishes, Dennis Cleaton, RAD. Powys.
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Dear Rina, Margaret, Gordon et al,
Rina, I am going to send your email to Richard Mills who lives in Maryland as I am not sure if he is subscribed to this list. His ancestors are the Trefeglwys Mills and the name Richard appears. He is the researcher interested in DNA testing and appears on the Mills website. His address is there if you want to write to him direct. The website which is coordinated by Cynthia Mills is at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~millsofmidwales/
I hope you find it helpful.
Margaret, I found your email interesting as I have often been surprised to find certain ancestors couldn't read and write when I discovered they had marked their names in the marriage registers.
Gordon, there are several of us working on my extended Mills family history and I am sure there is a reference to Herefordshire. I will check and see if the name Miles appears and get back to you.
Regards,
Margaret Harvey
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From: Rina Callingham
To: Margaret Harvey ; powys(a)rootsweb.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
Dear Margaret,
Many thanks for taking the trouble to check this for me.
I'm researching Jane Mills on behalf of an American descendant. Jane's husband, Samuel Williams was ordained as a non-conformist minister a year after their marriage on 8th November 1821. He served at Zion (Seion) chapel, Llanidloes for 8 years, before moving to Capel Isaac and later, Llanedi in Carmarthenshire. In 1840 he emigrated to America and ministered both at Deerfield, New York and later at Neath, Bradford Co., Pennsylvania.
From the details of Lloyd's message, one of the witnesses to Jane's marriage was a possible relative, Richard Mills. I wondered if the marriage entry gives any details about the couples home parishes? William was reputed to have been born in Breconshire but so far, I have no evidence of this.
I would be very grateful for details of Cynthia Mills' website.
Many thanks again,
Rina
----- Original Message -----
From: Margaret Harvey
To: powys(a)rootsweb.com ; emma.callingham(a)tesco.net
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
Hi Rina, Dennis and Lloyd,
I am a Mills researcher although mine originated mainly in Radnorshire. I have a copy of "Llanidloes Town and Parish" by E. Ronald Morris and he has printed a Mills tree in it, many of the family were composers and printers. Edward, a weaver is recorded as being born in 1785 and married to Mary Evans of Llanwnog, his children are the same as you quote although again the dates vary. Edward was an Astronomer, Henry emigrated to America, Richard was a publisher, writer, and Mayor of the town and John became a clergyman. Edward and Mary also had a daughter however her name is Mary not Jane and I have no date of birth for her, she married Owen Mills of Caernarfon. The marriage information sent to you by Lloyd shows that your Jane made a X instead of signing the register. This Mills family were very well educated so I would have expected that any daughter would have been able to read and write so perhaps that rules out your Jane.
There is a Mills website including this family and others in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire and it is organised by Cynthia Mills of Llanidloes with the aim of finding a connection between the various Mills in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire. Let me know if you want more information about it and I can also put you in touch with a descendant of this family. By the way several Mills descended from the Llanidloes and Trefeglwys families have undertaken DNA tests and I can give you further details if you wish. I have not been able to take part as I need to be a male with the surname Mills and I can't find anyone who qualifies.
I hope this is of interest to you.
Regards,
Margaret Harvey
Thanks for this Margaret,
There was a Fred? Mills, a postman in Newbridge-on -Wye in WW2 days, and he
ran the big Radnorshire Co Store shed at the GWR railway station, and the
weighbridge there. I think he or his wife were from Llangurig, and were related
to my Uncle Richard Hamer Evans, who's mother Mary Jane Evans from Rhayader
was my Gt Grandmother - married to Thomas Evans at Llanwrthel in 1875.........
Best wishes, Dennis Cleaton, RAD. Powys.
My grandfather Arthur Rogers EVANS b 14/12/1867 Nobley Walton Radnorshire
married
Sarah Jane BOWEN b 24/3/1872 Drivers Glott Titley Herefirdshire
They were married on the 22/5/1899 in St Johns Church KINGS LYNN
Three questions:- 1/ Why were these two Welsh boarder people married so far away from friends and family
2/ What is DRIVERS GLOTT Titley
3/ Is NOBLEY the name of a house or area in Walton
Pictures of: Snow Scenes in the Brecon Beacons, BRE; and Llangyfelach
Parish, GLA
Dear Listers,
This week's Retrospectives, just uploaded onto my website, are:
1. Winter scenes shot after a snowfall in the Brecon Beacons National Park
in the county of Breconshire (eight pictures). This feature was first shown
on 'Images of Wales' in February 1999.
2. A two-page display featuring rural scenes in the parish of Llangyfelach
in the county of Glamorgan (eight pictures). This feature was first shown on
'Images of Wales' in September 2004.
As usual, these webpages will be on display for one week.
'Retrospective Images of Wales' is at
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After viewing the Retrospectives, why not explore my 'Webpage Archive' and
make your own Retrospective requests.
Kind regards,
John
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Hello Margaret,
I have been unsuccessfully chasing the Miles family in the Radnor/Hereford
area for several years, and I wondered if there are any examples of
confusion with the name Mills. If you know of any instances, I should be
very pleased to discuss the problem, perhaps off list as it may not be of
general interest, because it concerns mainly the Hereford border area
Regards
Gordon.
-----Original Message-----
From: powys-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:powys-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Margaret Harvey
Sent: 18 October 2008 01:00
To: powys(a)rootsweb.com; emma.callingham(a)tesco.net
Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
Hi Rina, Dennis and Lloyd,
I am a Mills researcher although mine originated mainly in Radnorshire. I
have a copy of "Llanidloes Town and Parish" by E. Ronald Morris and he has
printed a Mills tree in it, many of the family were composers and printers.
Edward, a weaver is recorded as being born in 1785 and married to Mary
Evans of Llanwnog, his children are the same as you quote although again the
dates vary. Edward was an Astronomer, Henry emigrated to America, Richard
was a publisher, writer, and Mayor of the town and John became a clergyman.
Edward and Mary also had a daughter however her name is Mary not Jane and I
have no date of birth for her, she married Owen Mills of Caernarfon. The
marriage information sent to you by Lloyd shows that your Jane made a X
instead of signing the register. This Mills family were very well educated
so I would have expected that any daughter would have been able to read and
write so perhaps that rules out your Jane.
There is a Mills website including this family and others in Montgomeryshire
and Radnorshire and it is organised by Cynthia Mills of Llanidloes with the
aim of finding a connection between the various Mills in Montgomeryshire and
Radnorshire. Let me know if you want more information about it and I can
also put you in touch with a descendant of this family. By the way
several Mills descended from the Llanidloes and Trefeglwys families have
undertaken DNA tests and I can give you further details if you wish. I
have not been able to take part as I need to be a male with the surname
Mills and I can't find anyone who qualifies.
I hope this is of interest to you.
Regards,
Margaret Harvey
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Hi Rina, Dennis and Lloyd,
I am a Mills researcher although mine originated mainly in Radnorshire. I have a copy of "Llanidloes Town and Parish" by E. Ronald Morris and he has printed a Mills tree in it, many of the family were composers and printers. Edward, a weaver is recorded as being born in 1785 and married to Mary Evans of Llanwnog, his children are the same as you quote although again the dates vary. Edward was an Astronomer, Henry emigrated to America, Richard was a publisher, writer, and Mayor of the town and John became a clergyman. Edward and Mary also had a daughter however her name is Mary not Jane and I have no date of birth for her, she married Owen Mills of Caernarfon. The marriage information sent to you by Lloyd shows that your Jane made a X instead of signing the register. This Mills family were very well educated so I would have expected that any daughter would have been able to read and write so perhaps that rules out your Jane.
There is a Mills website including this family and others in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire and it is organised by Cynthia Mills of Llanidloes with the aim of finding a connection between the various Mills in Montgomeryshire and Radnorshire. Let me know if you want more information about it and I can also put you in touch with a descendant of this family. By the way several Mills descended from the Llanidloes and Trefeglwys families have undertaken DNA tests and I can give you further details if you wish. I have not been able to take part as I need to be a male with the surname Mills and I can't find anyone who qualifies.
I hope this is of interest to you.
Regards,
Margaret Harvey
Hi Malcolm,
Would you know if there was a Rachel Williams living Llanspyddid around the
1840-1850's. I believe my Rachel Maddy married a David Williams and that
they lived at Llanspyddid. I would just like some proof that she did
actually marry a Williams.
Best wishes
Sue in Suffolk
----- Original Message -----
From: <malcolm.rhydyfro(a)talktalk.net>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: [POWYS] PRICE, Llanspyddid (Bre/Powys)
Dear Eileen
The graveyard is not very big and very overgrown - I guess there are around
70 headstones.
I know that a graveyard survey consisting of 12 pages was done by Gareth
Jones who lives near Stoke on Trent in England.
Do you want me to order a copy - the cost would only be £2 - £3.
I was not able to find Margaret Price in the Breconshire 1851 census,
probably left off the census.
I did find Rees & Elizabeth Price in the 1851 census & William & Elizabeth
Powell in Talgarth in the 1861 census.
Regards
Malcolm
----- Original Message -----
From: ANDYBOYT(a)aol.com
To: malcolm.rhydyfro(a)talktalk.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] PRICE Llanspyddid
Dear Malcom
Thank you so much for your e-mail and the information about Kilwhibert
farm & the Baptist chapel.
Are there headstones at the graveyard of the Baptist chapel? I wondered if
Rees was buried there - a long shot probably. I am pleased that the farm
still exists, the family in Pennsylvania will be really pleased to hear
that.
Thank you for your offer to look for Margaret in the 1851 census; I have
found Margaret's parents, Rees & Elizabeth PRICE but I cannot find her
anywhere - I wondered if they omitted her from the census returns.
Their details are:
According to the 1851 census, Rees PRICE was born about 1822 in
Crickardan, Elizabeth was born about 1815/6 in Battle. Rees is a farmer and
they have children from his first marriage with them.
Margaret was born in July 1850 so would be about 8 or 9 months old and was
born at Kilwhibert farm.
in the 1861 census, Rees has died and Elizabeth is married to William
POWELL. Margaret is with them listed as a step daughter to William. Also
with them are two children, William & Joseph POWELL. If I remember
correctly, they are living in Talgarth.
Thank you again
Eileen
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Hi Rina,
Sorry dont know off hand but will check the Register when I'm next at the
National Library
Regards
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rina Callingham" <emma.callingham(a)tesco.net>
To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
> Hello again Lloyd,
> Would you happen to know if Jane Mills (born circa 1801) was the daughter
of
> Edward Mills (1780-1850), the weaver & flannel manufacturer of Llanidloes?
> A member of Bethel chapel, Llanidloes, Edward was known to have 4 sons
> (Edward, Henry, Richard & John) and a daughter - possibly Jane?
> Many thanks for any help,
> Rina
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lloyd Lewis" <lloyd.lewis1(a)virgin.net>
> To: <powys(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] (MGY) Parish records Llanidloes
>
>
> > Hi Rina,
> >
> > Here are the details for Rev Samuel Williams.
> >
> > Marriage Register Number #161.
> >
> > Samuel Williams Bachelor
> > Jane Mills Spinster Signed by Mark.
> > Married by Licence. 12th July 1820. Llanidloes Parish Church.
> > Witnesses Richard Mills & Richard Lewis.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lloyd,
> > Editor, Cronicl Powys
> > www.rootsweb.com/~wlspfhs
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Dear Listers,
Peter Thomas <peter.thomas(a)nidum.plus.com> a member of the Dyfed and
Glamorgan lists, has been able to identify the 'churches' shown in my
photos.
The first photo is of Muckross Abbey, Killarney, see:
http://tinyurl.com/3f7zcu
The second photo is of Ross Castle, Killarney, see:
http://tinyurl.com/4ens79
Many thanks to all who tried to assist.
Kind regards
John
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Thanks John, do you know who has the same old book for Milford Haven and
Pembrokeshire please John? With many old Brunel ships and others, and various
places there. Published for Pembroke / Dyfed Council I think. My copy is
adrift at present.......Yrs, Dennis, _dcleatond(a)aol.com_
(mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)
John Ball wrote:
> Dear Listers,
>
> Can anyone help me identify the church ruin shown in two old photographs on
> my website? The owner of the photos writes:
> ------------------
> The photos were in my grandfather's photo album and he came from Liverpool.
> As 3 of the 4 grandparents came from Wales I thought there might be a
> connection. Paternal grandparents, John Evans b. 1791 from Llanstephan
> Radnorshire and Martha Walters b. 1803 from Camrose, Pembrokeshire and
> maternal grandparents William Swallow b. 1813 Almondbury, Huddersfield,
> Yorkshire and Elizabeth Shone b. 1813 Hawarden, Flintshire.
> -------------------
>
> The photos are accessible on my website at:
> http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/mystery-photo.jpg
>
> I'd be most grateful for any help in identifying this old church.
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> John
>
John,
Can't identify it, but to my (untrained) eye, the two photos don't
appear to be of the same building. I wouldn't have expected to see a
large square window as seen in the lower pic in the church tower. Also
the two towers appear to be of different construction?
--
Cheers
Peter
Neath
In a message dated 15/10/2008 18:42:02 GMT Standard Time,
john(a)jlb2005.plus.com writes:
http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/mystery-photo.jpg
Dear John,
It looks like an old church and castle in the Pembroke Dock/ Milford Haven
area to me, and it has Victorian iron railings on the roadside. I had a
brown pbk book of old photos and the history ref Milford Haven and Pembrokeshire,
published by a company that does them for most UK areas like Llandrindod and
Newtown locally , The Chalford Publishing Co Ltd, St Mary's Mill, Stroud,
Gloucestershire, GL6 8NX.. They may know of it perhaps? Yrs, Dennis Cleaton
_dcleatond(a)aol.com_ (mailto:dcleatond@aol.com)
Dear Listers,
Can anyone help me identify the church ruin shown in two old photographs on
my website? The owner of the photos writes:
------------------
The photos were in my grandfather's photo album and he came from Liverpool.
As 3 of the 4 grandparents came from Wales I thought there might be a
connection. Paternal grandparents, John Evans b. 1791 from Llanstephan
Radnorshire and Martha Walters b. 1803 from Camrose, Pembrokeshire and
maternal grandparents William Swallow b. 1813 Almondbury, Huddersfield,
Yorkshire and Elizabeth Shone b. 1813 Hawarden, Flintshire.
-------------------
The photos are accessible on my website at:
http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/mystery-photo.jpg
I'd be most grateful for any help in identifying this old church.
Kind regards,
John
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