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Thankyou Lloyd, I shall do that.
Patricia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Lewis" <lloyd.lewis1(a)virgin.net>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
> Hi,
> Yes the CDs can be ordered from the Powys FHS site at www.parishchest.com
> or by post from
> Mike MacSorley,
> 20 Hospital Road,
> Penpedairheol.
> Hengoed, Mid-Glam, CF82 8DG.
>
> Regards
> Lloyd,
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patricia Williams" <tishanne(a)tesco.net>
> To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
>
>
> > Is it possible to purchase this CD please?
> > Patricia Williams
> > Llanrwst
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mrs Glenys Travis" <glenys(a)travis.ndo.co.uk>
> > To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
> >
> >
> > >
> > > This is from the 1871 Census CD:-
> > >
> > > WILLIAMS Anne, h, w, 74, -, RAD Llanyre, Village, /f24/p9
> > > HUMPHRIES Sarah, d, m, 31, dressmaker, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village,
> /f24/p9
> > > HUMPHRIES Robert T, gs, u, 2, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
> > > HUMPHRIES Elizabeth A, gd, u, 6, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
> > > HUMPHRIES Thomas, sl, m, 40, miner, SAL Chirbury, Village, /f24/p9
> > > HUMPHRIES Sarah A, gd, u, 1m, -, MGY Machynlleth, Village, /f24/p9
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Sorry to hear about you mothers loss. It is sad at any age. Wow, 91 is
wonderful.
I am so jealous of you living there. Seems like most of my family secrets
are hidden there. I get so frustrated that every other day, I threaten my
husband and tell him I am getting on a plane. He wouldn't mind but there
are the 6 kids under 15 that would. So I am waiting as patiently as
possible. So I thank you so much for your help till I can get there.
My biggest mystery ( I like that better then brick wall) is the Jenkins
family. I know Thomas was born about 1829 and the different census list St
Harmon's and Llanidloes Rads. as place of birth. His marriage has Edward
Jenkins as his father. That is who I can't find. The marriage was in
Tredegar. I have not been able to find Edward at all.
The only clue other then the marriage certificate is from a journal entry
about Edward and his brothers that all lived to be over 100 years old. And
lived close to each other. They were called Old Die, Young Die and Die Come
Lately. For 3 men who lived a long life, I can't find them any where. And
wondering if one of them was named David from the nick name Die. So any
help there would be wonderful.
Thanks so much. I am sure you have plenty of your own genealogy to do so I
appreciate the time you are taking to help me.
Jill
----- Original Message -----
From: <DCLEATOND(a)aol.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] JARMAN Nantmel, Rads,
> Thanks Jill,
>
> I remember you calling from Alaska some time ago! I am in Llandrindod
Wells,
> Radnorshire, Powys, very near Nantmel/Rhayader/St Harmon/Llanyre, etc, so
well
> placed to help you out a little. I was born here in 1932, and my wife
Audrey
> is from Rhayader, but we have have been away in UK and overseas in
> Africa,etc, for over 40 years, except for visits. We know this area well
from our early
> days, but many have passed on since then!
>
> There are some Jenkins and Jinkins in the little 1841/1851 Rads books for
> Rhayader/ Nantmel areas,etc, did we check them before?? These and/or the
the Rads
> 1841 cd would be fine for you really. You can order any of them online
with
> Visa card,etc, via -
> www.parishchest.com/
> Look for the Powys list of CD's and books, etc. The Rads 1841 cd is £13
post
> paid in UK, there are also Rads 1851, 1861, and others for MGY and
Breconshire
> CD's/books
>
> Which Jenkins do you still seek? I will look again for you.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis Cleaton
>
> (My Cleatons were all ex Montgomeryshire, first listed there in 1573. My
> mother was a Nantmel Evans, and sadly died 6 weeks ago at 91)
>
Powys FHS CDs -
1871 and 1861 seem to cover the whole of Breconshire including the parishes
of Builth and Llanafan Fawr & Fechan but I have not tested them in depth!
The 1851 contains all 4 enumeration districts, Brecon, Builth, Crickhowell &
Hay. I think this is fantastic work by the Powys FHS whose volunteers
deserve all the credit.
Subject: Re: [POWYS] JARMAN Nantmel
Hi Jill,
Have you talked to Gareth Jones about Jarman/Jerman?
I think he's collected quite a lot of them over the years.
He was at <jermanproject(a)btopenworld.com> a year or more ago.
Try searching the archives on this list. He was a frequent participant.
cheers, Tony
----------------------------------------------------------
>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:38:34 -0800
>From: J F <jnjfife(a)gci.net>
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] JARMAN Nantmel
>X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/13067
>Dennis, Thank you for trying to help.
>The only info I have is :
>
>Catherine Jarman married William Samuel Morgan
>Catherine was born 27 Aug 1832 Bettws Disserth
> married 20 Jun 1856 USA
>They had Sarah Elizabeth, Margaret, William, Evan, Annie, Thomas, John
>and Daniel.
>
>Her father John Jarman born 16 Jun 1784 Nantmel
> married 10 Nov 1809 Llandirndod Well to Margaret Price.
>They had Thomas, Evan, Catherine, Samuel, Livia, Michael, David, Daniel.
>
>His father Lewis Jarman Born about 1759 Nantmel
> married Ann Lloyd 15 Feb 1784 Nantmel
> He died 4 Jan 1829 Nantmel.
>John is the only child I could find for this marriage.
>
>I do not have anything else.
>An aunt sent this to me and was not able to confirm any of it.
>I am trying to find anything I can. I have not address.
>Hope this is enough information to go on.
>I appreciate any help you can give.
>Jill
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <DCLEATOND(a)aol.com>
>To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:46 PM
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] JARMAN Nantmel
>
>>Hi Jill,
>>There are some Jarmans listed under Rhaeadr/Nantmel/Llanyre/St Harmon
>>areas in the 1841/1851 Powys FHS census booklets, but not yours perhaps.
>>Do you have any addresses please?
>>The name is also found in Montgomeryshire with Jerman, and German
>>in some places.
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis Cleaton
>> Rads, Powys
Hi,
Yes the CDs can be ordered from the Powys FHS site at www.parishchest.com
or by post from
Mike MacSorley,
20 Hospital Road,
Penpedairheol.
Hengoed, Mid-Glam, CF82 8DG.
Regards
Lloyd,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia Williams" <tishanne(a)tesco.net>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
> Is it possible to purchase this CD please?
> Patricia Williams
> Llanrwst
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mrs Glenys Travis" <glenys(a)travis.ndo.co.uk>
> To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
>
>
> >
> > This is from the 1871 Census CD:-
> >
> > WILLIAMS Anne, h, w, 74, -, RAD Llanyre, Village, /f24/p9
> > HUMPHRIES Sarah, d, m, 31, dressmaker, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village,
/f24/p9
> > HUMPHRIES Robert T, gs, u, 2, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
> > HUMPHRIES Elizabeth A, gd, u, 6, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
> > HUMPHRIES Thomas, sl, m, 40, miner, SAL Chirbury, Village, /f24/p9
> > HUMPHRIES Sarah A, gd, u, 1m, -, MGY Machynlleth, Village, /f24/p9
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
You're welcome Joanne.
It is the record for the parish of Llanafanfawr and I can only guess that
"Village" simply means the populated centre of the parish. I have come
across this previously and wondered what exactly it meant!
Thanks again
it helps a great deal :>)
best wishes
joanne in manchester
>From: "Mrs Glenys Travis" <glenys(a)travis.ndo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:44:05 +0100
>
>You're welcome Joanne.
>
>It is the record for the parish of Llanafanfawr and I can only guess that
>"Village" simply means the populated centre of the parish. I have come
>across this previously and wondered what exactly it meant!
>
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Thanks Dennis,
i'll dig out my bits, i know they married in 1865, so can i get back to you,
with possibly an address for Sarah, know that there daughter ELIZABETH A was
born in 1861
bye for now
joanne in Manchester
>From: DCLEATOND(a)aol.com
>Reply-To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:08:38 EDT
>
>Hi Joanne,
>
>Can't see any of these on the 1861 NW Breconshire Census booklet by Powys
>FHS, (cost is £3 plus pp), that covers Llanafan Fawr, etc. There is a Mary
>Anne
>Humphreys aged 12 at Ty Rosser, born in BRE Llanafan Fawr.
>
>Also, a Joan Humphries, 29, cowmans wife, Maes-fanog, born locally.
>and, John Humphries, 40, sv, cowman, Llanfechan, born Flintshire.
>
>No others, and no Robert Thomas, but many Sarah Williams's! Do you have any
>ages and addresses please?
>
>Best regards,
>Dennis Cleaton
>Rads, Powys
>
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THANK YOU SO MUCH GLENYS ! :>)
Does the "village"bit mean they were living in the village of Llanafanfawr,
was there an actual address for them?
this confirms the Chirbury bit for Thomas as on another census he gave
Chirbury & and the 81 said Bishops castle ashis birthplace
forever in your debt! :>)
thanks again
joanne
>From: "Mrs Glenys Travis" <glenys(a)travis.ndo.co.uk>
>Reply-To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] HUMPHREYS
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:57:34 +0100
>
>
>This is from the 1871 Census CD:-
>
>WILLIAMS Anne, h, w, 74, -, RAD Llanyre, Village, /f24/p9
>HUMPHRIES Sarah, d, m, 31, dressmaker, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
>HUMPHRIES Robert T, gs, u, 2, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
>HUMPHRIES Elizabeth A, gd, u, 6, -, BRE Llanafanfawr, Village, /f24/p9
>HUMPHRIES Thomas, sl, m, 40, miner, SAL Chirbury, Village, /f24/p9
>HUMPHRIES Sarah A, gd, u, 1m, -, MGY Machynlleth, Village, /f24/p9
>
>
>
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Hi All,
Does the Brecon part 1871 cd cover Builth/Llanafan, etc, please? I only have
the book for 1861 NW Breconshire that does so. Books and cd's can be purchased
online with visa,etc, at www.parishchest.com/ Look for the the Powys FHS
items there.
Best regards,
Dennis Cleaton
Rads, Powys
Thanks Jill,
I remember you calling from Alaska some time ago! I am in Llandrindod Wells,
Radnorshire, Powys, very near Nantmel/Rhayader/St Harmon/Llanyre, etc, so well
placed to help you out a little. I was born here in 1932, and my wife Audrey
is from Rhayader, but we have have been away in UK and overseas in
Africa,etc, for over 40 years, except for visits. We know this area well from our early
days, but many have passed on since then!
There are some Jenkins and Jinkins in the little 1841/1851 Rads books for
Rhayader/ Nantmel areas,etc, did we check them before?? These and/or the the Rads
1841 cd would be fine for you really. You can order any of them online with
Visa card,etc, via -
www.parishchest.com/
Look for the Powys list of CD's and books, etc. The Rads 1841 cd is £13 post
paid in UK, there are also Rads 1851, 1861, and others for MGY and Breconshire
CD's/books
Which Jenkins do you still seek? I will look again for you.
Best regards,
Dennis Cleaton
(My Cleatons were all ex Montgomeryshire, first listed there in 1573. My
mother was a Nantmel Evans, and sadly died 6 weeks ago at 91)
Hello
after a very long time away an new email address ( and new home), i thought
i would return as my father's side was slacking a bit
anyone with connections to THOMAS HUMPHREYS , wife SARAH ( nee WILLIAMS) &
son ROBERT THOMAS living in LLANAFANFAWR ( there are others but havent
unpacked all details yet), circa 1861
have found them in 1881
please could anyone tell me if there is a census lookup available for
1861/71 fo this area, if so ill dig out the address
many thanks
joanne newbery
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Hi Joanne,
Can't see any of these on the 1861 NW Breconshire Census booklet by Powys
FHS, (cost is £3 plus pp), that covers Llanafan Fawr, etc. There is a Mary Anne
Humphreys aged 12 at Ty Rosser, born in BRE Llanafan Fawr.
Also, a Joan Humphries, 29, cowmans wife, Maes-fanog, born locally.
and, John Humphries, 40, sv, cowman, Llanfechan, born Flintshire.
No others, and no Robert Thomas, but many Sarah Williams's! Do you have any
ages and addresses please?
Best regards,
Dennis Cleaton
Rads, Powys
Hi Jill,
There are listed in 1841 -
Catherine Jarman 30, not born in Radnorshire, living at White Hall, Llanyre,
LY/f12/p17
near Nantmel.
Daniel Jarman 40, farmer, not born in Rads, living at Tyncwmb, St Harmon,
SH/f12/pp18, near Rhayader, plus others. These may not be linked to you.
There are about 20 Jarmans in the Rhayader/Nantmel area in 1841. Have you
got the Powys FHS cd for Radnorshire 1841 please? That may help a little. I will
ask if anyone here knows of your family locally if you wish.
Best wishes,
Dennis Cleaton
Llandrindod Wells,
Rads, Powys
Has anybody come across the dwelling of Bryn coch in Llysdinam. I cannot see it on the modern Landranger map or Old Maps online. I wonder if it still exists or like so many others now a heap of stones. A PRITCHARD family lived there 1841, 1851 and 1861 census. I don't have access to the 1871 so can't check.
Lesley
Hi Jan,
Powys Archives hold the following school records for Llanwnnog CE school.
Log Book 1900-1971
Admission 1908-1960
Attendance 1939-1963
Reference: ME/PS/38
They have a researcher available for a small charge.
Email archives(a)powys.gov.uk
Regards
Lloyd,
Editor Cronicl Powys
Powys FHS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin and Jan Braithwaite" <cjbrthwt(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:55 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Clatter school in Llanwnog
> I have a photograph of Clatter school dated 1908, with pupils and staff
standing in the school yard. Amongst them is my Grandmother Gwladys Margaret
THOMAS and her sister Ethel Maud THOMAS.
> Does anyone know if there are school records for this time? I am hoping to
find the address where they were staying.
> I would be grateful for any help or ideas.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Jan
> Aberdeen. Scotland.
>
Hi Jill,
There are some Jarmans listed under Rhaeadr/Nantmel/Llanyre/St Harmon areas
in the 1841/1851 Powys FHS census booklets, but not yours perhaps. Do you have
any addresses please? The name is also found in Montgomeryshire with Jerman,
and German in some places.
Best regards,
Dennis Cleaton
Rads, Powys
Hi Lesley,
Bryncoch is about a mile NW of Llysdinam Hall GR 989594 on Landranger 147, I
am not sure of who lives there now. One Pritchard family left the area about
1945 to live near Ledbury, Herefordshire, the sons were Billy and Ken Pritchard
who were in school with me!
Yrs, Dennis
Hi Jenny,
There were voting rights for landowners, and tenants with property values
above a certain level it seems, not sure of the exact details. And no votes for
ladies until 1918
I think.
Best regards,
Dennis
Yes, good. Ha or Haf can mean summer. I don't understand the ending but I
guess we don't need to. You figure this is in Trefeglwys? When I got it as a
placename on a topographic map at multimap.com it looked like it might be a
mining area, with tumulus slopes north and south of it. But mining probably
would have come much later. Closest town: Staylittle, probably less than 1
km to the NW. Closest airport: John Lennon in Liverpool!