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Thanks Tony,
I had forgotten we had corresponded before about these and you helped me
with a couple of Ashton queries - I've been away from this for a while.
I haven't got any more on Valentine's wife other than she was Mary. I
have Valentine's sister Martha married to Richard Jerman, who was a
brother of the Daniel Jerman who married Elizabeth Stephens in 1776.
However, I don't have any children recorded for Martha and Richard,
other than a note that they had some. So Edward might be one of them.
As for Elizabeth, I have Valentine as one of six children, but only have
further children for his brother Edward (b.1761), who produced the D+D
children with cousin Anne. But you probably know more about this than I
do.
Incidentally, did we previously establish before our own link through
Daniel Jerman (my 5xG Grandfather) who married Elizabeth Stephens in
1776?
Gareth Jones
>www.btinternet.com/~jermanproject
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Francis [mailto:afrancis@mail.pacificcoast.net]
Sent: 29 May 2003 23:04
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: RE: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Subject: RE: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Hi Gareth,
We've talked before about the genetic possibility of inbreeding being
the
cause of D&D -as this was recorded, I am told. I don't know how much
science is behind it. Similarly, all I've heard about lead poisoning is
its
stealthy deterioration of the brain and perhaps the nervous system. I
was
wondering if lead poisoning has a genetic effect.
The will NLW 1847/277W of shopkeeper Valentine ASHTON of Llawryglyn
made
28 May 1844 left:
To nephew Edward JERMAN of Esquir in the p of Llandinam, farmer - £20
To niece Elizabeth JARMAN of said Glynhafron - £2
Gwyneth Davies of Bridgenorth told me that Valentine's sister Martha
had
married Richard Jarman in 1764 in Llanidloes and it is their son, here
"nephew Edward of Esquir", who is in the will but that she didn't
recognize
"niece Elizabeth of Glynhafren". Her legacy was the smallest of each
described. I wondered if Elizabeth might be a niece of Valentine's wife
Mary/Martha, who might then perhaps have been a JARMAN.
Cheers, Tony
---------------------------------------------------------
>From: "jerman project" <jermanproject(a)btopenworld.com>
>Subject: RE: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:04:14 +0100
>X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10707
>Tony,
>I am interested in these Ashtons as they tie in (very closely) with my
>Jerman/Jarman families over the generations. Indeed, so close are the
>links, and the Edward/Anne marriage of 1st. cousins you cite being a
>good example, that it has been suggested by some that congenital
defects
>would inevitably have resulted in some cases. I have a few other
>examples in my records and I am sure there are many more which we will
>never know about.
>
>While also being 1st cousins, this Edward and Anne's forebears are
>intertwined in also much more complicated ways. The Ashtons and the
>Jermans farmed the same areas north of Llanidloes for hundreds of years
>and didn't seem to stray very far when looking for spouses! Their
>closeness may also have been based on sound economic reasons - to
>protect assets and to create family units based on notions of need and
>expediency rather than romance!
>Gareth Jones
>www.btinternet.com/~jermanproject
Hi Listers
I wonder if someone could manage a look up for me in the above - probably in
the Hundred of Merthyr Cynog - for Thomas ARTHUR aged about 20. Might be with
father of same name, stepmother Mary Ann & siblings Benjamin, Mary, Betsy??
Jane, Jenny.
Many thanks, Ruth
Dear List,
Below is a query I received today from Margaret Ashby. I was able to locate
some of the individuals she mentioned in the 1881 Census Index but have no
pertinent details on the PARTRIDGE family who ultimately farmed at
Gilwern, Pant-y-beiliau near Llanelly, near Bryn Mawr, in the 1920's. (The
Lt. Colonel Llewellyn PARTRIDGE was age 3 in 1881, living with his family in
Winshill, Derbyshire.)
I advised Margaret to subscribe to the Powys list but if anyone has
knowledge of this family, please reply directly to Margaret (not to me) at:
mash59(a)bigpond.com
Thanks,
Julie Preston
juliefpreston(a)sbcglobal.net
####################
Margaret Ashby wrote:
Dear Julie
Thank you for your time.
Lt Colonel Llewelyn Partridge is listed in 1920 Kellys Dir for Wales as
farmer Gilwern and his residence is listed as Pant-y-beiliau near Llanelly,
near Bryn Mawr.
I am wanting to know more about him of course and to try and trace
descendants. His wife Cecily Mary Cuthbert married him in 1903. She is a
Buchan descendant, as I am.
Llewelyn and his brother Noel Henry Essex Partridge married 2 Cuthbert
sisters in London.
Llewelyn's father was Henry Partridge a banker who lived at Bletchingly in
1901. Henry's father was Edward John Partridge and Henry was born at
Ludlow, Shropshire . I noticed that a Edward John Partridge was born in
1905 in Brecon region and I am wondering if he could be Llewelyn's son.
I am wondering if there is something written about the family, he was
obviously wealthy and the Cuthbert girl would have inherited well.
Only last night on my search a Mr and Mrs L Partridge were mentioned in the
Pony and Cob Club at Gelli Fawr Farm, Henllys, Cwmbran,Gwent. I will write
to them
Thank you Julie for any assistance that you can give me.
Another great interest is Thomas Adye Buchan born Newton Nottage, 1851 son
of Captain David Adye Buchan, Porthcawl harbour master. I know where the
captain retired (Plymouth) but I cannot trace a death or marriage for Thomas
.
David Adye Buchan's father was Captain David Buchan who led the 1818 Arctic
Voyage with young John Franklin.
Margaret Ashby
mash59(a)bigpond.com
71 Oceana St
NARRAWEENA 2099
AUSTRALIA
(02) 99822683
Hi Everyone,
I have just been looking at the documents on line site at the PRO for my
Lewis family of Glamorgan, but in doing so came across a number of entries both in
Radnorshire and Brecknock. For those of us who cannot find Wills for our
ancestors in Wales this site is perhaps worth while looking at. The URL is
http://www.documentsonline.pro.gov.uk/
Good hunting,
Regards
Tricia Heseltine
Corfe Mullen, Dorset
tribobhes(a)aol.com
Hello my name is Robert Williams I have just subscribed to this list to
see if you can help me with my Brickwall
I have little or no information on the family except for what was passed
down:
Howell Parry b. 1798 in Llangattock Brecon Wales he married Margaret
Howells 11 September 1819 also in Llangattock his occupation was listed
as a "Lime Burner" he was in the Crickhowell Union Workhouse at the time
of his death on Mar. 26,1860. Margaret Howells(his wife) was born
abt.1801
in Llangattock(this is obtained from her age given on the census of
Breconshire in 1841 she was 40 years old) she died 10 March 1844 place of
death listed as "Kelly Cottage".
their children were:1-Mary b. 1821 d.1884
2-William b. 1823 d.1856
3-Sarah b. 1828 d. 1842
4-Howell b. 1831 d.1855
5-Anne b. 1834 d.1874
I need any help at all to try to locaterecords on Crickhowell Union
Workhouse,anyidea where Kelly cottage would be? and what it was?,a census
lookup for 1841 to verify what we have on her from Breconshire, And any
help to set me on the right path to find Margarets parents and siblings.
Thanks in advance to all who
will help me
Robert Williams
Hello Jo,
Thank you for the info.
The only Travish I have to date is Jane Travish who married Benjamin Farr in
Glasbury on May 1st 1719.
He was the son of Richard and Susan Farr,b Glasbury 21 Jan 1690, not sure
where they were born or Susan`s maiden name.
Haven`t looked at the IGI for some time so will do that.
Don`t forget the sun block.
regards,Jill ,Sussex by the sea.
----- Original Message -----
From: "karenza4" <karenza4(a)btopenworld.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 29 May 2003 15:32
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Interests., Glasbury area.
> A mini-reply, as your email bit sort on dates and christian names. No
> personal interest.
> Found a THOMAS FARR, boot and shoemaker, in Glasbury, entered in 1835
> and 1844. Maybe a relative of the Thomas Farr entered on the 1881
> census.
>
> HANNAH TRAVISH christened (from IGI on line) 1817, Glasbury. Also
> but a different spelling at Glasbury,William TRAVIES. Christened 1816.
>
> Jo. sweltering in Shropshire sun.
>
>
>
Charles,
Further to my previous reply, I do know that the Newtown Area Library holds
the entire set of Monts. Collections. I had to get special permission to
view them as they keep them off limits to the general public.
Best,
Julie Preston
juliefpreston(a)sbcglobal.net
Charles,
I'm still interested in your STEPHENS of Berthddu research so wouldn't mind
following your off-list thread with Angie if you'd be inclined to cc me on
your exchanges. (I still owe you a reply from your last emails to me --
sorry, I got sidetracked and your list postings have reminded me!)
BTW, the LDS may have microfilmed the Monts. Collections so you may wish to
check their online catalogue.
Best,
Julie Preston
juliefpreston(a)sbcglobal.net
----- Original Message -----
From: <charlesstephe80(a)talk21.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Mont. Collections / STEPHENS
> Thanks Angie,
>
> I'm very interested to hear that you are from the Thomas/Elizabeth
Stephens line, as I've been trying to work out how this line relates to my
own Stephens line. I think your Thomas was probably a brother of the John
Stephens of Berthddu, Llandinam, who died in 1711, who is my ancestor. Not
to be confused with another John Stephens, also of Llandinam, who died in
1712 as you say.
>
> Yes, I do have the Barker CD and from other sources I have pieced together
trees, but we should perhaps pursue this off-list to save boring other
listers! Will drop a separate line shortly.
>
> Meantime my appeal for help with the Mont. Collections still stands if
anyone can help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charles Stephens
>
>
> > Hi Charles
> >I can't help with the Montgomeryshore Collections sorry but there are
> >mentions of a John Stephens in Bill Barkers MOntgomeryshire families -
have
> >you seen them?
> >I didn't know the timescale but there are mentions of a John circa 1712
> >(will), John bap 1686 son of Thomas and Elizabeth (my line!), John b
circa
> >1708 son of Owen, John b. 1754 son of Stephen.
> >Hope that these may be useful
> >Good Luck
> >Angie
> >
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A mini-reply, as your email bit sort on dates and christian names. No
personal interest.
Found a THOMAS FARR, boot and shoemaker, in Glasbury, entered in 1835
and 1844. Maybe a relative of the Thomas Farr entered on the 1881
census.
HANNAH TRAVISH christened (from IGI on line) 1817, Glasbury. Also
but a different spelling at Glasbury,William TRAVIES. Christened 1816.
Jo. sweltering in Shropshire sun.
Subject: RE: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Hi Gareth,
We've talked before about the genetic possibility of inbreeding being the
cause of D&D -as this was recorded, I am told. I don't know how much
science is behind it. Similarly, all I've heard about lead poisoning is its
stealthy deterioration of the brain and perhaps the nervous system. I was
wondering if lead poisoning has a genetic effect.
The will NLW 1847/277W of shopkeeper Valentine ASHTON of Llawryglyn made
28 May 1844 left:
To nephew Edward JERMAN of Esquir in the p of Llandinam, farmer - £20
To niece Elizabeth JARMAN of said Glynhafron - £2
Gwyneth Davies of Bridgenorth told me that Valentine's sister Martha had
married Richard Jarman in 1764 in Llanidloes and it is their son, here
"nephew Edward of Esquir", who is in the will but that she didn't recognize
"niece Elizabeth of Glynhafren". Her legacy was the smallest of each
described. I wondered if Elizabeth might be a niece of Valentine's wife
Mary/Martha, who might then perhaps have been a JARMAN.
Cheers, Tony
---------------------------------------------------------
>From: "jerman project" <jermanproject(a)btopenworld.com>
>Subject: RE: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
>Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:04:14 +0100
>X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10707
>Tony,
>I am interested in these Ashtons as they tie in (very closely) with my
>Jerman/Jarman families over the generations. Indeed, so close are the
>links, and the Edward/Anne marriage of 1st. cousins you cite being a
>good example, that it has been suggested by some that congenital defects
>would inevitably have resulted in some cases. I have a few other
>examples in my records and I am sure there are many more which we will
>never know about.
>
>While also being 1st cousins, this Edward and Anne's forebears are
>intertwined in also much more complicated ways. The Ashtons and the
>Jermans farmed the same areas north of Llanidloes for hundreds of years
>and didn't seem to stray very far when looking for spouses! Their
>closeness may also have been based on sound economic reasons - to
>protect assets and to create family units based on notions of need and
>expediency rather than romance!
>Gareth Jones
>www.btinternet.com/~jermanproject
Hello Tony
Haven't got her! Any idea where she was baptised/lived etc? if I find a link
I'll get back to you.
Best wishes
Angie
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Hi again,
The Pen-y-banc you have found is just farm land, the dwelling is nearer the
town on the north bank of the River Severn (Hafren).
For Bryntail Mines just go north from Llwyntew (Llwynderw) for a couple of
miles and it is just south of Llyn Clywedog. Dennis Cleaton gave me some
information on booklets about the lead mines and I have ordered three of
them from Amazon. I have just checked my order and they could take up to
six weeks from when it was placed on the 10th May.
I can't find 'Maenhinon' on the map but Ronald Morris doesn't live in the
area of the grid reference, he lives in Llanidloes. He knew both my parents
and has been a great help with my research knowing the people and area so
well. Vera Jones also knew my parents and I met her at my uncle's funeral
about three years ago, she also gave me a great deal of help.
Many young people move away from the area to find work, my parents moved
after the Second World War as did many families as jobs were difficult to
find. I do find, however, on my visits to Llanidloes that very little
seems to have changed unlike many towns. The people who live there probably
think otherwise but to me the main streets and the old market hall seem
timeless. I notice as well that many of the farms shown on modern maps
were marked on the first edition of the ordnance surveys one produced in the
mid to late 1800s. I expect some dwellings have been family homes for
several generations.
At least the name Llanidloes has remained the same unlike Lloyd's
Cwmdauddwr. It seems amazing that there were at least 24 different
spellings for that one parish!
Regards,
Margaret H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Francis" <afrancis(a)mail.pacificcoast.net>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Subject: Re: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Thanks Margaret.
I see it and have written in the name 'Old Hall'.
I have 'Llwyn-tew' printed above 2-3 black dots at about SN912849 and
'Pen-y-banc' is shown as an area just north of Bryn Mawr at about SN890872.
Glynhafren is at about SN894847 for which I have reference in a will, NLW
1847/277W, of Valentine ASHTON, shopkeeper of Llawryglyn at about SN924912
who left money: To sister Mary-b.1764 SMITH of Glynhafren near Llanidloes -
£10. She was wife of John Smith and their children were: - nephews Richard
and John SMITH of said Glynhafron - £20 each. To niece Elizabeth JARMAN of
said Glynhafron - £2. These were the gggGrandparents of Mrs. Vera Jones of
Oakley Park, mentioned several days ago.
Funny to think of all our ancestors rubbing shoulders at the market or
whatever.
"vivian edwards" <vivian.edwards(a)ntlworld.com> just asked
(X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10693) about
'Bryn-tail' lead mine, Llanidloes - I've no idea where that is.
Valentine and Mary's eldest brother Edward ASHTON, 1761-1811, married his
cousin Anne and they farmed Cwndylluan at SN952883 just a few hundred yards
from an old mine. Was this one of the lead-mines too? I'm interested
because many of Edward's children were born deaf & dumb and I wonder if it
was caused by lead poisoning?
I also notice 'Maenhinon' at about SN904896 and wonder if this might
relate somehow to the family of Mr. E.Ronald Morris, historian and author
of Llanidloes. Have you had the pleasure of talking with these most
knowledgeable people?
Cheers & thanks again, Tony
Thanks Angie,
I'm very interested to hear that you are from the Thomas/Elizabeth Stephens line, as I've been trying to work out how this line relates to my own Stephens line. I think your Thomas was probably a brother of the John Stephens of Berthddu, Llandinam, who died in 1711, who is my ancestor. Not to be confused with another John Stephens, also of Llandinam, who died in 1712 as you say.
Yes, I do have the Barker CD and from other sources I have pieced together trees, but we should perhaps pursue this off-list to save boring other listers! Will drop a separate line shortly.
Meantime my appeal for help with the Mont. Collections still stands if anyone can help.
Regards,
Charles Stephens
> Hi Charles
>I can't help with the Montgomeryshore Collections sorry but there are
>mentions of a John Stephens in Bill Barkers MOntgomeryshire families - have
>you seen them?
>I didn't know the timescale but there are mentions of a John circa 1712
>(will), John bap 1686 son of Thomas and Elizabeth (my line!), John b circa
>1708 son of Owen, John b. 1754 son of Stephen.
>Hope that these may be useful
>Good Luck
>Angie
>
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hello julie.
it seems that my 4 x grandfather JOHN HUGHES born 9-3-1785 at LLANGADFAN his father was Evan Richard a sawyer born 1761 [info nat lib of wales research llangadfan parish registers]who married Elizabeth Davies had three sons Hugh-John-and Thomas now possibly a daughter Elizabeth[married Evan Evans] that you have uncovered [and possibly Margaret]
I suspect Evan Richards father is the Richard Evan with wife Elizabeth.
But who did I get from the Hughes surname to the Richards surname----------am I confused or what?
would welcome your comments
jon
chichester.
Hi All I'm back on the list again trying to find my Stonehewers!
John Stonhewer born ca. 1792 in Carmarthen married an Ann from Battle. But I can't find the marriage. I have been in contact with other people researching Stonehewers and they have seen the name written as Stone, Stonuary, Stonehouse, and lots more.
I was wondering if somebody could look for a marriage (including variations), the earliest child was born in 1819. Although I do also have another (very Iffy) child called Anne Stone King who was born in 1813.
Is the marriage index easy to look up?
Regards
Debbie in Hong Kong
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Mont. Collections / STEPHENS
Hi Angie,
I see an Elizabeth Stephens b.approx.1755, who got married 27 Apr 1776 at
Aberhafesp, to Daniel JERMAN, b.about 1751-1842. Her daughter Martha
married into my ASHTON line.
Cheers, Tony
------------------------------------------------------------
>From: "Angela Jones" <angieprobertjones(a)hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [POWYS] Mont. Collections / STEPHENS
>Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:36:59 +0000
>X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10694
>Hi Charles
>I can't help with the Montgomeryshore Collections sorry but there are
>mentions of a John Stephens in Bill Barkers MOntgomeryshire families - have
>you seen them?
>I didn't know the timescale but there are mentions of a John circa 1712
>(will), John bap 1686 son of Thomas and Elizabeth (my line!), John b circa
>1708 son of Owen, John b. 1754 son of Stephen.
>Hope that these may be useful
>Good Luck
>Angie
Hello Julie,
Christopher John Russell was born in Newton St Craven Arms, Stokesay 3.6.1907.
His mother was Edith Elsie Russell a grocers assistant from Market St.
Thats all it says on the certificate.
I found that there was a grocers shop in Market St. but I cant remember the owners name.
There was a midwife on Newton St called Mary Williams who probably delivered the baby.
I cant find Edith on the 1901 census or 1881.
I have searched the electoral registers and trade directories,school records and poor law records.
Cant find any trace of her.
In the 1920s Chris was living with my great grand parents William & Caroline Jane Turner in Trewern near Buttington, Mont.
My great grandparents would not talk about his background.
I had a great uncle called William John Turner.
He was 17 on the 1901 census living with his family at Trewern.
He and his sister Sarah are the only two out of a large family that my mother & aunt cant remember.
I think William was Chris` father or possibly Sarah was his mother - but lied about her name on the birth certificate.
Chris died in 1944 in Holland.
I have written a small article for the Ludlow Advertiser this week and sent a photo of Chris.
Hopefully something will come of this.
Andy
Subject: Re: [POWYS] re In the Shadow of Pumlimon
Thanks Margaret.
I see it and have written in the name 'Old Hall'.
I have 'Llwyn-tew' printed above 2-3 black dots at about SN912849 and
'Pen-y-banc' is shown as an area just north of Bryn Mawr at about SN890872.
Glynhafren is at about SN894847 for which I have reference in a will, NLW
1847/277W, of Valentine ASHTON, shopkeeper of Llawryglyn at about SN924912
who left money: To sister Mary-b.1764 SMITH of Glynhafren near Llanidloes -
£10. She was wife of John Smith and their children were: - nephews Richard
and John SMITH of said Glynhafron - £20 each. To niece Elizabeth JARMAN of
said Glynhafron - £2. These were the gggGrandparents of Mrs. Vera Jones of
Oakley Park, mentioned several days ago.
Funny to think of all our ancestors rubbing shoulders at the market or
whatever.
"vivian edwards" <vivian.edwards(a)ntlworld.com> just asked
(X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10693) about
'Bryn-tail' lead mine, Llanidloes - I've no idea where that is.
Valentine and Mary's eldest brother Edward ASHTON, 1761-1811, married his
cousin Anne and they farmed Cwndylluan at SN952883 just a few hundred yards
from an old mine. Was this one of the lead-mines too? I'm interested
because many of Edward's children were born deaf & dumb and I wonder if it
was caused by lead poisoning?
I also notice 'Maenhinon' at about SN904896 and wonder if this might
relate somehow to the family of Mr. E.Ronald Morris, historian and author
of Llanidloes. Have you had the pleasure of talking with these most
knowledgeable people?
Cheers & thanks again, Tony
Hi Tony
They are the same mountain. Plynlimon is the English way of spelling, they
(the English) could not understand the Welsh alphabet so corrupted most
spellings. Pumlumon is of course the Welsh spelling although it is said very
much the same way.
We now have a 'politically correct' Welsh campaign by most local
authorities, who are correcting many old Welsh place names with modern
grammar versions.
You will find that in many of the census the spellings are phonetic, so we
are back to square one.
My village of Cwmdauddwr has at least 24 different spellings over the last
300 years, and now Powys County Council has decided that it should be spelt
Cwmteuddwr. All adds to the confusion.
Regards
Lloyd
----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Francis <afrancis(a)mail.pacificcoast.net>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: 28 May 2003 04:00
Subject: Re: [POWYS] In Shadow of Pumlumon - Old Hall
> Hi Lloyd,
> Many thanks for letting us know about 'In the Shadow of Pumlumon' by
> Thomas Bound, Published by Thomas Bound, Ceunant, Old Hall, Llanidloes,
> Powys SY18 6PW.
> My 1996 Road Atlas shows the mountain called Plynlimon, whereas my 1952
> Ordnance Survey map has Pumlumon. I assume we're talking about the same
> thing, so what's going on?
> Cheers, Tony
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> >From: "Lloyd Lewis" <lloyd.lewis(a)virgin.net>
> >Subject: Re: [POWYS] In Shadow of Pumlumon - Old Hall
> >Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:02:32 +0100
> >X-Mailing-List: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com> archive/latest/10685
> >Hi Tony
> >Yes, it is the same Old Hall. The book is really a local history diary of
> >the area and includes many photos of families and their occupations.
> >I know it may seem odd that the farms and houses are still lived in after
> >2-300 years but that's quite normal in Wales, unlike California where if
its
> >50 years old it's time to remodel.
> >Regards
> >Lloyd
>
>
>