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Mike,
Thanks for that information, I shall contact Mr Powell in due course to see
how far he has progressed towards 1837.
Terry
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Steve,
I suggest you also post this query to the Midmarch and Glamorgan mailing
lists.
Best regards,
Juile Preston
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-----Original Message-----
From: Triceratops <triceratops9(a)argo.net.au>
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 2:08 AM
Subject: JOB
>Hi all,
> As most of those reading this email are researching their family tree
>I'm looking / hoping for a link to or, information on the following family:
>
>Evan JOB, bc1831, Monmouthshire.
> parents Evan Job & Harriet Smith.
>
>wife:
>Mary JOB (nee PROTHERO) bc1837, Nantyglo, Glamorgan.
> parents: John Prothero & Joan Predith
>
>kids:
>Harriet, bc1857, Old Monkland, Sct.
>Mary Jane, bc1859, Witten Park, Dur.
>Elizabeth, bc1865, Motherwell, Sct.
>John Evan, bc1870, Workington, Cul.
>Abraham, bc1873, Workington, Cul,
>Joseph, bc1875, Workington, Cul.
>Annie, bc1877, Workington, Cul.
>
>In 1881 Evan was living in Workington, Cul,
> whilst Mary and the children were in Llanelly, Carmarthen.
>
>Looking forward to any response.
>
>Take Care & Enjoy Life
>Steve
>Perth.
>Western Australia
>triceratops9(a)argo.net.au
>research interests:
>http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/wel01.html
>
>______________________________
Fred,
I beg to correct you here, as the one near Aberystwyth in Cardiganshire is
Llanbadarn Fawr. There is also a Llanbadarn Fawr in Radnorshire, as well as
Llanbadarn Fynydd and Llanbadarn-y-garreg.
Best regards,
Julie Preston
anpreston(a)msn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Griffiths <griffco(a)mail.cadvision.com>
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:10 PM
Subject: Llanbadans (plural)
>There IS a Llanbadarn near Aberystwyth, but that one is Llanbadarn
>Fynydd. Then there is the Llanbadarn Fawr near Llandrindod Wells, but
>there is also a Llanbadarn-y-garreg south east of Builth Wells
>(South-south east of Llandrindod Wells).
>
> Since they are all named in honour of St. Padarn, its not
>unusual to have many places with the same name. Think of how many "St
>Andrews Anglican churches" you see in state or province. Then imagine
>in the old days (before mass travel, TV etc) how the place around each
>church became known as "St Andrews", etc.
>
>Cheers,. Fred
>
>Cheers, Fred
>--
>Fred & Wendy Griffiths
>Calgary, Canada
>mailto: griffco(a)cadvision.com
>http://www.cadvision.com/griffco/index.htm
>
>______________________________
Dear Paul,
No village, it's a farm.
best wishes,
richard
PAUL BROOKER wrote:
> --- Received from VCC2.BROOKER 595862 99-06-30 13:54
> -> POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Hi All,
> Is anybody familiar,with a farm or village called Brynnyrhdd.
> Its quoted in the 1841 census index,Radnorshire.
> I believe it is sited between Glasbury and Llowes.
> Anybody information confirming what it is and whats there would be
> great.....
> Thanks
> Paul Brooker
> HAVARD/DAVIES (still looking Mike) :-)
--
Richard J. Meredith
Professional Welsh Historian & Genealogist
Mayfair Research Services/Gateway USA
3230 32nd Way
West Palm Beach
Fl, 33407
http://genealogypro.com/mayfair-research.html
--- Received from VCC2.BROOKER 595862 99-06-30 13:54
-> POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
Hi All,
Is anybody familiar,with a farm or village called Brynnyrhdd.
Its quoted in the 1841 census index,Radnorshire.
I believe it is sited between Glasbury and Llowes.
Anybody information confirming what it is and whats there would be
great.....
Thanks
Paul Brooker
HAVARD/DAVIES (still looking Mike) :-)
Dear Fred,
Llanbadarn fawr is the parish immediately as you enter
the outer limits of Aberystwyth town. The church itself is on the hill
above the main road into Aber. As has previously been stated there are
many churches and regions with the same name - there is more than one
Llanafan for instance and so forth.
best wishes,
richard
Fred Griffiths wrote:
> There IS a Llanbadarn near Aberystwyth, but that one is Llanbadarn
> Fynydd. Then there is the Llanbadarn Fawr near Llandrindod Wells, but
> there is also a Llanbadarn-y-garreg south east of Builth Wells
> (South-south east of Llandrindod Wells).
>
> Since they are all named in honour of St. Padarn, its not
> unusual to have many places with the same name. Think of how many "St
> Andrews Anglican churches" you see in state or province. Then imagine
> in the old days (before mass travel, TV etc) how the place around each
> church became known as "St Andrews", etc.
>
> Cheers,. Fred
>
> Cheers, Fred
> --
> Fred & Wendy Griffiths
> Calgary, Canada
> mailto: griffco(a)cadvision.com
> http://www.cadvision.com/griffco/index.htm
--
Richard J. Meredith
Professional Welsh Historian & Genealogist
Mayfair Research Services/Gateway USA
3230 32nd Way
West Palm Beach
Fl, 33407
http://genealogypro.com/mayfair-research.html
Georgia,
If you use the Census Place Index fiche (England, Scotland, Wales) at the
LDS FHC, you can look up the parish and find the correct census film for the
township(s) you need.
Best regards,
Julie Preston
anpreston(a)msn.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ggeske <Ggeske(a)email.msn.com>
To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Place Location
>I would like to thank those who responded to my query regarding Beaufort.
>The location I was given of Beaufort is southwest of Llangattock and
>Crickhowell on the
>other side of the mountain. Why was it still in the Crickhowell
>registration district when it is so close to Ebbw Vale?
>I guess the next question I have regarding Beaufort is what census
district
>is it in? The marriage reg. district was Crickhowell with Llangattock as
>sub district. Would it be the same for the census return for 1861 since it
>is a civil registration district? Any help would be appreciated.
>Thank you again,
>Georgia
>
>______________________________
If there is anyone who is researching the SWEET Family that came from Wales
, I would like to contact them. Also does anyone know if MODBURY , ENGLAND
was ever a part of Wales.
Hi Jerry!
I have SWEET ancestors. My line starts with Fanny FARROW who married Stephen
Sanders SWEET in 1840. All the way back to 1654 the line is around the
Connecticut/Rhode Island USA area and then John SWEET married to Elizabeth
JEFFREYS/JEOFFRIES was born in Modbury Devonshire England but married and
died in Rhode Island. His parents were John SWEET and Mary PERIAM and this
John was born 1579 Traine Modbury Devonshire England, married in London and
died in Rhode Island. His father was Isaac (Robert) SWEET married to Joanna
RAINHAM.Isaac was born1552 Hackney London England, married Rainham Essex
England and died in Essex. His father was John SWETE married to Mary-----..
This John was born 1530 Modbury Devonshire. His father John SWETE married
Johane SCOOS. And I have his father as John SWETE born 1504 Devonshire. And I
have the line ending there (for now). If this is the ancestors you are
looking for I have the rest of the info for the line including dates and
histories on the wives and their lines as well. Will gladly share with you.
Hope this helps! Ele...
Hi all,
As most of those reading this email are researching their family tree
I'm looking / hoping for a link to or, information on the following family:
Evan JOB, bc1831, Monmouthshire.
parents Evan Job & Harriet Smith.
wife:
Mary JOB (nee PROTHERO) bc1837, Nantyglo, Glamorgan.
parents: John Prothero & Joan Predith
kids:
Harriet, bc1857, Old Monkland, Sct.
Mary Jane, bc1859, Witten Park, Dur.
Elizabeth, bc1865, Motherwell, Sct.
John Evan, bc1870, Workington, Cul.
Abraham, bc1873, Workington, Cul,
Joseph, bc1875, Workington, Cul.
Annie, bc1877, Workington, Cul.
In 1881 Evan was living in Workington, Cul,
whilst Mary and the children were in Llanelly, Carmarthen.
Looking forward to any response.
Take Care & Enjoy Life
Steve
Perth.
Western Australia
triceratops9(a)argo.net.au
research interests:
http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/wel01.html
Hi Ele: I am new too, and had similar fears about downloading. A kind soul
told me about this URL www.download.com and told me to try it. They have
a section from the main page about viruses and offer free download of
Mcaphee virus scanner. I downloaded it and never have had a problem. By
the way, it's a great site for games and computer updates as well and
apparently very secure. Whether they are completely secure, I don't know,
but I thought I would share it with you anyway.
Good luck
Robin
----- Original Message -----
From: <Elesaxony(a)aol.com>
To: <POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 4:57 AM
Subject: Re: PAF 4.0 Gen Software
> Hello! I am fairly new to the internet (although I have been doing family
> history for 25 years now) I would really like to download this
program---but
> I'm concerned---because of virus problems. I know that there couldn"t be
a
> more reputable group than the LDS. I tried to download onto a 3.5 disk
(which
> probably shows how new I am to this) and of course---the program wouldn"t
> fit! Then--- a security warning came up on the screen saying that the
program
> had not been "signed" by the publisher. Question is---Should I be
concerned
> about downloading this onto my "D" Drive? Help!!!! Ele...
>
There IS a Llanbadarn near Aberystwyth, but that one is Llanbadarn
Fynydd. Then there is the Llanbadarn Fawr near Llandrindod Wells, but
there is also a Llanbadarn-y-garreg south east of Builth Wells
(South-south east of Llandrindod Wells).
Since they are all named in honour of St. Padarn, its not
unusual to have many places with the same name. Think of how many "St
Andrews Anglican churches" you see in state or province. Then imagine
in the old days (before mass travel, TV etc) how the place around each
church became known as "St Andrews", etc.
Cheers,. Fred
Cheers, Fred
--
Fred & Wendy Griffiths
Calgary, Canada
mailto: griffco(a)cadvision.com
http://www.cadvision.com/griffco/index.htm
Hi Listers.
I have downloaded the PAF 4.0 and it is completely safe, no virus. Its free
software, you don't get asked any questions other than your name and address
and email for registration.
It will not download to a floppy, its too big for that. I downloaded to my
hardrive, got my computer to find my 3.0 file and copied it to the 4.0
I did it this way to check it out to see if I liked it. This gives me a copy
in the 3.0 version and one in 4.0. I have yet to try the photo feature
(which I was looking to find in another software program), as the 3.0 did not
have it.
So far, so good ....
Georgina in Orange, Ca.
Hi.
I am the one who posted to the list about the download.
I downloaded it onto my harddrive and it took about 15 minutes. It is great
and no you are quite safe to do so.
Georgina in Orange, Ca.
Richard Meredith <hanescymru(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
Unfortunately there are very few surviving coroners records for
Radnorshire. The few that I managed to find, I donated to the Powys
archive Office a few years ago. Occasionally local legal offices will
have spares of some of those records and as Duggan was based in
Knighton, you may want to try Edwin Kelcher at the Knighton registrars
offices to see if he can help. Other than that there is little you can
do. The few records that I had rescued from destruction were primarily
concerned with the areas of Rhayader and Cwmdeuddwr. Try asking
Catherine at the Powys archives if they have anything else.
==================
Hi Richard,
Thanks for your help. You really confirmed what I'd suspected might be
the case, but I'll certainly follow up your suggestions. It was of
course Mr Kelcher who provided me with the death certificate.
Another possibility is a local newspaper report - Kington Library has a
good (indexed!!) run of the Kington Times, which covers Old Radnor - but
I think 1886 might be just a few years too early.
Hope you enjoyed your recent visit home.
Kind regards,
John
- -----------------------------------------------------
John Ball (Ystalyfera, South Wales)
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
John's Welsh Family History Archive:
http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm
Julie's Welsh Surname List:
http://home.on.rogers.wave.ca/bozzy/index.html
Dear John,
Unfortunately there are very few surviving coroners
records for Radnorshire. The few that I managed to find, I donated to the
Powys archive Office a few years ago. Occasionally local legal offices
will have spares of some of those records and as Duggan was based in
Knighton, you may want to try Edwin Kelcher at the Knighton registrars
offices to see if he can help. Other than that there is little you can
do. The few records that I had rescued from destruction were primarily
concerned with the areas of Rhayader and Cwmdeuddwr.
Try asking Catherine at the Powys archives if they have anything else.
That's about all I can do for you?
best wishes,
richard
WFHA wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> I've just received an interesting death certificate for a death by
> suicide which took place in 1886 in Old Radnor, apparently in the
> Radnorshire East registration district.
>
> In the column where the informant's details are normally recorded, the
> registrar wrote:
> "Certificate received from Thos. E. Duggan, Coroner for Borough of
> Radnor. Inquest held June 17th 1886".
>
> Does anyone one know where I might find records of the inquest
> proceedings??
>
> Many thanks,
>
> John
> -------------------------------------------------------
> John Ball (Ystalyfera, South Wales)
> E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
> John's Welsh Family History Archive:
> http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm
> Julie's Welsh Surname List:
> http://home.on.rogers.wave.ca/bozzy/index.html
--
Richard J. Meredith
Professional Welsh Historian & Genealogist
Mayfair Research Services/Gateway USA
3230 32nd Way
West Palm Beach
Fl, 33407
http://genealogypro.com/mayfair-research.html
I found in the British Library the original application documents to the
East Indian Company as an Assistant Surgeon of my great grandfather, Richard
WHITTALL (1818-1890). The information given on his application indicated
that he was the son of Richard and Anne WHITTALL and that they had
registered his birth (or baptism) on the 9th of may 1818 at the Parish of
Llandrindod in the county of Radnor. At the time he applied, November 27th
1840, to the East Indian Company his father was a farmer at Lodge
Huntington, Herefordshire. I therefore assume he migrated from Radnor to
Herefordshire circa 1820+.
I am trying to find out all I can and if possible who were the parents of my
great, great grandfather Richard "The farmer" who married Anne and who had a
son in 1818 and registered at Llandrindod Hall. I assume he was born in the
1790's and married Anne circa 1810.
I have heard that there was a Jones in there somewhere...maybe Anne was a
Jones?
If you have any clues please let me know.
yours and hoping,
Peter
Peter G. Chapuisat
Chemin Oche Combe, 31
CH-1297 Founex / Vaud
Switzerland
Tel.No. 0041 22 989 08 54
Fax.No. 0041 22 989 08 51
email: Peter.Chapuisat(a)Boucledor.com
Hi Listers,
I've just received an interesting death certificate for a death by
suicide which took place in 1886 in Old Radnor, apparently in the
Radnorshire East registration district.
In the column where the informant's details are normally recorded, the
registrar wrote:
"Certificate received from Thos. E. Duggan, Coroner for Borough of
Radnor. Inquest held June 17th 1886".
Does anyone one know where I might find records of the inquest
proceedings??
Many thanks,
John
- -----------------------------------------------------
John Ball (Ystalyfera, South Wales)
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
John's Welsh Family History Archive:
http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm
Julie's Welsh Surname List:
http://home.on.rogers.wave.ca/bozzy/index.html
Susan A. Moyer <suemoyer(a)pacbell.net> wrote:
I have been reading about Llanbadarn Fawr with interest as I too and
researching relatives who lived in this parish and attended St. Padarn's
... only the one I am researching is just outside of Aberystwyth. This
is the first time I have come across a parish and church with the same
names. Is this common? I was just curious and thought you might know.
=================
Hi Susan,
I think it is quite common for parishes in different parts of Wales to
bear the same name.
The word "Llanbadarn" means "church of (saint) Padarn", so anywhere
there is a church dedicated to St Padarn, there could be a parish called
"Llanbadarn". In Radnorshire there are three such parishes, called
Llanbadarn Fawr, Llanbadarn Fynydd, and Llanbadarn Garreg to distinguish
them from each other.
According to the "Gazetteer of Welsh Place-Names", Cardiganshire has
five such parishes: Llanbadarn Fawr (the one near Aberystwyth),
Llanbadarn Odwyn, Llanbadarn Trefeglwys, Llanbadarn-y-Creuddyn Isaf, and
Llanbadarn-y-Creuddyn Uchaf, suggesting that each of these has (or had)
a parish church dedicated to St Padarn. However, "Phillimore's Atlas and
Index of Parish Registers" only lists the first three of these.
Sources:
"A Gazetteer of Welsh Place-Names" by Elwyn Davies. University of Wales
Press. 1996. ISBN 0 7083 1038 9
"The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers", by Cecil
Humphery-Smith. Phillimore & Co. 1995. ISBN 0 85033 950 2
There are lots of other examples of parishes with the same names
appearing in different parts of Wales.
Kind regards,
John
- -----------------------------------------------------
John Ball (Ystalyfera, South Wales)
E-mail: wfha(a)clara.co.uk
John's Welsh Family History Archive:
http://home.clara.net/wfha/wales/index.htm
Julie's Welsh Surname List:
http://home.on.rogers.wave.ca/bozzy/index.html