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Earl,
You didn't do anything wrong. Guess I could not read!! At least I
overlooked the first number 1 in your address and it bounced. The message
was not much, but I always like to thank everyone for their help.
Have a good week end
Wanda
in New Mexico
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:37:17 EST EBru121324(a)aol.com writes:
>Hi Wanda:
>Now what have I done? My E-mail address is EBru1213124(a)aol.com
>
>My home address is:
>955 Cohasset St.
>Las Vegas, Nevada 89110-2762
>
>Happy hunting,
>
>Earl C. Brunner
>
>
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Hughes Families chartered in VA on March 20,
1997, and now have 150 members, publish a QT Newsletter, and assist our
members with research.
Many of our immigrant ancestors came from Wales including my own,
Orlando Hughes in 1690.
Hughes Families welcomes members from our native country. We can be of
benefit to each other by exchanging information. Our dues are only
$10.00 annual. Please reply if interested in joining and we will give
details.
Robert L. Hughes, 1st VP/Exec.Sec.
Hughes & Related Families Int'l., Inc.
Hi Wanda:
Now what have I done? My E-mail address is EBru1213124(a)aol.com
My home address is:
955 Cohasset St.
Las Vegas, Nevada 89110-2762
Happy hunting,
Earl C. Brunner
Sorry I can't help you. My LEWIS's are in Sussex from mid-1600's to
mid-1800's, I have'nt found a LEWIS/VAUGHAN connection in the PR's for
Willingdon Sussex
Val Hobson
Calgary
hobsonlv(a)cadvision.com
>
>
>Subject: Re: surname Lewis
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>Greetings,
>Any record of any of your Lewis ever adopting OR marrying a Vaughan?
Early-mid
1800's, Meifod, Montgomeryshire area.
Just a long shot.
Thanks,
- Pete
PVaughan(a)warwick.net
Larry & Val Hobson wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why a LEWIS should move from Wales (yes, I know it would
> likely be South Wales) to Sussex in the 1600's?
>
> I have John LEWIS born in Eastbourne C1676. The story from two different
> branches of the family is that the original Lewis came from Wales, but I
> think it is more credible that the name is taken from the nearby ancient
> town of Lewes in East Sussex. Obviously his parents must have abandoned the
> patronymic style of surname.
>
> Was there migration at that time? The only thing in common between the two
> areas that I can think of is sheep .... but why go to Sussex?
>
> Any ideas are welcome --- historical, not facetious please!
>
> Val Hobson (Hammond-Williams)
> Calgary
> hobsonlv(a)cadvision.com
Many thanks to Keith, Mike, Richard and the people who responded to my plea
for help, I now have several directions to rush off in! Probably keeping me
busy for the rest of my life,
Val Hobson
Calgary
hobsonlv(a)cadvision.com
I have tried to send Earl Brunner a message personally and it was
returned POST OFFICE NOT FOUND. If he sees this will he please respond
to me with his personal address or if anyone can tell me what it is, I
would appreciate it .
Thanks,
Wanda
wrtracy(a)juno.com
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Hello all,
My first posting, I am Janet Graham from Des Moines, Iowa, USA.
Looking for info on Evan ap Evan a.k.a. Evan Lloyd Evan, Episcopalian
minister,
died 1690, buried at Llanfor Church near Vron (or Fron?) Goch, Merionethshire
also said to be from Fron Goch, Denbighshire. Any information or suggestions
on how to procede would be greatly appreciated!
I have what is "supposed" paternal line going back 27 generations to Merfyn.
Have spend the last two weeks on the Internet immersed in Welsh history.
Thank you <http://freespace.virgin.net/david.ford>,<http://www.
fairacre.demon.co.uk>,
and British Internet Magazine, its been fascinating. Also found <http://www.
dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/royal> and traced Merfyn back another 41
generations through the grandson of Noah through Wodin through Priam of Troy,
what fun!!!
Regards,
JG
E-mail: WeeseKin(a)aol.com
Hello everyone
For all those who like me, have not been able to find the new Wales
newsgroup,
I had written to Earthlink Techies this morning requesting that it be added
to my 30,000 already there. I just received an e-mail from Rob Techie at
Earthlink. He said it might end up under an "alt" prefix but I searched
there and it is not there either. He promised to look into it and get back
to me. He said they watch to see how much activity there is before making
it available. I did explain that it is fairly new and until everyone
receives it, posting might be a bit sparce, but for Earthlink not to worry,
since it will be running red-hot as soon as everyone has access to it.<G>
He says withing a couple of weeks I should be able to access it. I shall
keep you informed as soon as I see it, and if not will drop Rob another
note. Obviously it is worth contacting your own ISP's about this.
And regarding newsreaders, a big YES for Freeagent which I downloaded for
free from Earthlink's homepage. Having tried others, Agent is the only game
in town.
Blessings
Liz
GENEALOGY
In Cornwall & Devon
Martin, Cowling, Stanaway, Copplestone, Teague & Wellington
In India - Martin.
|> In Wales |>
/""""\ Davies, Evans, Price and Bevans /""""\
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|
In a message dated 10/29/98 6:15:59 AM Pacific Standard Time,
micronic(a)hallmark.kc3ltd.co.uk writes:
> I can recommend ' The Family Tree Detective' by Colin D Rogers, published
> by Manchester University Press, 3rd Ed. 1997. ISBN 0 7190 5213 0
> paperback.
>
Mike:
Do you have and address where I can purchase this?
Thanks,
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, Nevada
On 29 Oct 98, at 18:48, Vic Roberts said:
> The Wales.nnnnnn newsgroups are now being carried in the UK by Demon,
> Freeserve, Pipex and Netcom, to my knowledge. No doubt there will soon
> be more.
Excellent! Should be an interesting hierarchy!
> One thing is for sure - the Wales.genealogy NG hasn't been "approved"
> (insofar as anything on the Internet can be approved) by the people
> responsible for the soc.genealogy.nnnnn hierarchy of NGs. They aren't
> going to like that - and I suspect that there will be some "fun and games"
> in the near future!
Nod! In a semi-perfect world I think we would expand and have:
soc.genealogy.britain.wales
soc.genealogy.britain.wales.breconshire
I used to be very retentive about newsgroups falling into logical
hierachies and such, but these days I would far rather have fun and
learn things in a group like w.g than spend 8 months in flame wars and
posturing fits to try to see s.g.b.w come about. I have to admit I don't
know how alt.genealogy survives, though - genealogists are just so
tenacious I guess! I'd really love to see specific surname newsgroups
be more supported. But how I would reorganize the entire genealogy
newsgroup hierarchy is probably a topic best left exploring elsewhere,
and with more chocolate on hand...
> By the way, I'm a confirmed user of Forte Agent <g>.
Of course you are - all true usenet groupies must be, it's a law!
Shari (ex-tin user, corrupted by the admittedly wonderous joys of a
graphical interface)
P.S. I probably should say something more relevant to the list here
but hmmm ummmm still looking for a Thomas PRICE who married a
Martha (?) in Wales and left for Australia bef. 1877. No idea where,
I lean towards Bre/Rad, but lately I have strong suspicions that
Thos' parents could have been either Andrew & Elizabeth or less
likely Thomas & Elizabeth. Or maybe even possibly Richard & Ann.
Or a slim chance of a mother named "Amy L." *cough* *returns to
drawing board* :)
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 11:52:55PM +0000, Vic Roberts wrote:
> My own ISP says that no-one has posted anything to them (which I
> happen to know isn't correct) - therefore it won't make them
> available.
There has been over 250+ posts to the wales.* hierarchy since
Monday - excluding the wales.test newsgroup.
> I've already pointed out the flaw in that argument!
Other people have complained to netcomuk.co.uk on the same
lines : please persist and point out to them that Demon,
Freeserve, Pipex, Easynet and a host of the big UK ISPs
have access.
As I noted previously, the mail-to-news gateway works,
and people are using it to post to wales.genealogy
( mail2news.wales.genealogy(a)A470.demon.co.uk )
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:20:15 -0600, "Shari" <shari(a)viptx.net> wrote:
>I too have not been able to find wales.genealogy with either
>supernews (who claim to and seem to have it all) or dejanews (who
>probably do too, come to think of it). Any confirmed sightings yet? :)
Hello Shari,
The Wales.nnnnnn newsgroups are now being carried in the UK by Demon,
Freeserve, Pipex and Netcom, to my knowledge. No doubt there will
soon be more.
One thing is for sure - the Wales.genealogy NG hasn't been "approved"
(insofar as anything on the Internet can be approved) by the people
responsible for the soc.genealogy.nnnnn hierarchy of NGs. They
aren't going to like that - and I suspect that there will be some "fun
and games" in the near future!
By the way, I'm a confirmed user of Forte Agent <g>.
--
Regards,
Vic Roberts.
vroberts(a)netcomuk.co.uk
I too have not been able to find wales.genealogy with either
supernews (who claim to and seem to have it all) or dejanews (who
probably do too, come to think of it). Any confirmed sightings yet? :)
Shari
P.S. Re: the post for those not familiar to newsgroups - they are really
worth learning about, esp. for genealogy! I heartily recommend using
a product made specifically for newsgroups (I use Forte Agent) to
participate so you can easily filter out spam/porn, munge your address
in headers to avoid being harvested for spam (use your sig file to
explain how to contact you), and do advanced watching, decoding,
organizing, offline reading, etc. I have seen lots of people who were
put off news because they tried it through their web browsers become
proper Usenet junkies with a full-featured reader. ;) (Which is nothing
against using newsreaders integrated in web browsers as some people
may be far more comfortable with this method.) Forte Agent cost
money but they do have a freeware version called Free Agent
somewhere at www.forteinc.com. (Nope, I don't work for them :)
Anyway, really looking forward to a wales hierarchy if it propagates!
Hello all,
Glyn Davies has graciously volunteered the following index, posted for
lookups on all pages of the Mid-Wales Lookup Exchange at:
http://members.aol.com/johngareth/johngareth.html (BRE,MGY,RAD).
Gareth Hicks has also added it to the One Name Database Pages (POWELL) at:
http://members.aol.com/FamChaplin/OND.html# (also linked from the MWLE
pages under "The John Gareth Hicks Links Pages").
"Index of POWELL Deaths in Brecknock 1837 -1980" by Glyndwr Davies.
Comprises all POWELL entries in the GRO ("St. Catherine's House") Death
Indexes for the Registration District of Brecknock (area surrounding and
including the town of Brecon). Index may be searched alphabetically by
forename (or variants) or chronologically. Entries include Age, Year and
Quarter, Page and Volume numbers. After Sept. Quarter, 1969, entries
include date of birth.
Remember, this index covers POWELL's who *died* in the Brecknock
Registration District --- they may have originated in another county
entirely, so if your POWELL's death isn't recorded in the county/area where
you'd expect him/her to be, you might find it here.
Glyn has also deposited this index with the libraries of the Society of
Genealogists and the Powys FHS for members research purposes.
Many thanks to Glyn for volunteering and to Gareth for making these
additions!
Best regards,
Julie Preston
anpreston(a)msn.com
Hi Tony
> Is there anyone researching the WATKINS family in the Crickhowell area in
Have you checked out the Powys FHS Website?:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/michaelmacsorley/powys1.htm
There is a list of Member's Research Interests for Bre/Mgy/Rad and contact
addresses. You may find someone researching the same interest.
If not, try contacting the Brecknock Group Librarian of Powys FHS who
welcomes queries - address under 'Officers' on the Powys FHS site.
Good Luck
Mike Hall
Editor, 'Cronicl Powys',
POWYS FHS journal.
Erwood, in flooded Powys.
Email: micronic(a)hallmark.kc3ltd.co.uk
URL: http://www.kc3ltd.co.uk/~micronic/
----------
> From: Tony Meighan <meighan(a)alpine.albury.net.au>
> To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: CRICKHOWELL. Watkins. 1857.
> Date: 29 October 1998 06:46
>
> Hi,
>
> I have recently been informed that my GGmother was born in Crickhowell in
1857
> and baptised in 1859.
> Is there anyone researching the WATKINS family in the Crickhowell area in
> that period that may have come across ELVIRA(H) ANN Watkins born in the
> June Qtr 1857, Daughter to George Watkins.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
> Tony Meighan <meighan(a)alpine.albury.net.au
> Bright, Victoria, Australia.
> Researching in England & Wales:
> JELLEY/JELLY: Som. & Mnm. // MEIGHAN: Dur & Yks.// HORLER Som. & Mnm.
> JONES: Abertillery, Mnm.// MOORE: Frome, Som. // WATKINS:
Crickhowell,
> Powys.
> CREW // SLOUGH Hrts. // MUSGRAVE // GREATHEAD // MARKY: Dur.
Hi Liz
Have you tried asking your own ISP for the newsgroup to be carried. Mine
added a couple of groups I wanted.
Mike Hall
Editor, 'Cronicl Powys'.
Email: micronic(a)hallmark.kc3ltd.co.uk
URL: http://www.kc3ltd.co.uk/~micronic/
----------
> From: Elizabeth <elizabethk(a)earthlink.net>
> To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: new all-wales genealogy forum
> Date: 28 October 1998 22:35
>
> At 02:10 PM 10/28/98 +0000, you wrote:
> >There's a new all-wales genealogy forum called
> >
> > wales.genealogy
> >
> >It is available on the Usenet system, and is
> >the *only* Welsh genealogy forum on Usenet (out
> >of 30,000+ newsgroups).
>
> Hello Darren
> I have all 30,000 + listed Usenet newsgroups and also updated for this
> morning, but wales.genealogy does not appear.
> I looked under all-Wales genealogy and also Wales genealogy.
> Any ideas?
> Liz
>
>
> GENEALOGY
> In Cornwall & Devon
> Martin, Cowling, Stanaway, Copplestone, Teague & Wellington
> In India - Martin.
> |> In Wales
|>
> /""""\ Davies, Evans, Price and Bevans /""""\
> | " |"""""""|""""""|""""""| |"""""""|"""""""|""""" | "
> |
Hi Geoff
>From 1837 to 1874 registration was not compulsory. The onus to register
fell on the registrar not the parents (apparently registrars were paid on
commission until 1929).
>From 1875 birth registration became compulsory, a £GBP 2 fine was
introduced for failing to register and there was a 7s 6d penalty for late
registration (over 6 weeks following birth). Registration after 6 months
was not permitted.
I can recommend ' The Family Tree Detective' by Colin D Rogers, published
by Manchester University Press, 3rd Ed. 1997. ISBN 0 7190 5213 0
paperback.
All the best
Mike Hall
Editor, 'Cronicl Powys',
POWYS FHS.
Erwood, Powys.
Email: micronic(a)hallmark.kc3ltd.co.uk
URL: http://www.kc3ltd.co.uk/~micronic/
----------
> From: Geoff Thomas <bargoed(a)nildram.co.uk>
> To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Birth registration
> Date: 29 October 1998 02:13
>
> After public registration of births was introduced in Britain in 1837,
> what was the system adopted for registering the birth? Which public (or
> church) official was responsible for taking the details and did they
> wait for the woman to go to them or did they tend to pressurise the
> family into registering the birth? How soon after the system was
> introduced were records kept centrally (in London) as well as locally?
Hello Geoff,
The country was divided into Registration Districts and the Chief Registrar
appointed a local Registrar to each district. these were Government posts
i.e. they were civil servants. The local registrar recorded births,
marriages and deaths in each district and originally it was the
responsibility of the Registrar to gather the information on births and
register them. I don't know how he found out about a birth, possibly he
visited churches in his district to check on baptisms, then visited the
parents to obtain details for his register. It was found that this system
proved inefficient as an appreciable number of births went unregistered, so
in 1876 it was made compulsory for the parents to register the birth
within, I think, six weeks of the event taking place.
The local registrar periodically (quarterly?) sends details of births,
marriages and deaths to the central General Registry Office.
Regards,
Gordon Foulkes-Jones Nottingham
----------
> From: Geoff Thomas <bargoed(a)nildram.co.uk>
> To: POWYS-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Birth registration
> Date: 29 October 1998 02:13
>
> After public registration of births was introduced in Britain in 1837,
> what was the system adopted for registering the birth? Which public (or
> church) official was responsible for taking the details and did they
> wait for the woman to go to them or did they tend to pressurise the
> family into registering the birth? How soon after the system was
> introduced were records kept centrally (in London) as well as locally?
>
The family was their from the1700s to the end of the farm in c1865
when Llandudno was being developed.
-----Original Message-----
From: RICHARD B JONES [SMTP:DICKJONES1@prodigy.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 12:27 AM
To: Hughes,Mark
Subject: Re: [JONES-L] PWLLEGWICHIAD - JONES - 1800s
Mark......Any dates or other family given names ??
-----Original Message-----
From: Hughes,Mark <markhu(a)charterhouse.co.uk>
To: JONES-L(a)rootsweb.com <JONES-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 2:06 PM
Subject: [JONES-L] PWLLEGWICHIAD - JONES - 1800s
My gt gt gt gt grandmother was from Pwllegwichiad Farm in Llandudno
(what is now South Parade). Her name was Elizabeth Jones and she
married Richard HUGHES 1815-1897. They later lived at "Morfa" and 15
Madoc Street.
Any connections or info?
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