Joseph Burch Jr. and Elizabeth Thomas (daughter of Gen. Tristram Thomas)
named a daughter Sarah Fithner--not Fisher--Burch. A Fichtner surname for
the first wife of Joseph Burch Sr. is certainly a possibility. Of the seven
children who arrived on the ship Cunliffe with Theodosius Fichtner in 1752,
some are identified later: 1) Elizabeth married George Frederick Knobel in
1753; 2) Margaret married Jacob Ott in 1754; 3) Apollonia married Henry
Dantzler after 1757 (he paid the taxes on his wife's adjacent land in 1771).
The Elizabeth Fithnor who petitioned for 100 acres on the Bounty on 4 May
1773 is "probably" one of the children. There is no surviving record of a
land petition from a Mary Ann (or Anna Maria) Fichtner, but not every woman
got land in her own name prior to marriage.
A man named Theodor Fichtner emigrated from Bretten in the
Rheinpfaltz/Saarland in 1752, per the Werner Hacker index. The index entry
does not mention his family. It seems unlikely that two men with the same
less-common name would have emigrated in the same year. The Bretten parish
records might include a reference to a daughter Anna Maria who would be of
marriageable age in 1762.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark James" <tmarkjames(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ORANGEBURGH_SC] COL. JOHN FISHER ~ LOYALIST
A researcher named Sara Powell has uncovered some evidence that Mary Fisher,
who married Joseph B. Burch in 1762, may really have been Mary Fichtner of
1. Joseph Burch's second wife, Mary Ott, was the daughter of Jacob Ott and
Margaret Fichtner, so clearly Joseph had some relations with the Orangeburgh
2. A John Henry "Festner" had board arrangements with Joseph Burch in
It's not proof, but it does open up a new avenue for investigation.
-- Mark James <tmarkjames(a)yahoo.com>
--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Kathy Williams <kb-smwilliams(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
From: Kathy Williams <kb-smwilliams(a)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [ORANGEBURGH_SC] COL. JOHN FISHER ~ LOYALIST
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 2:50 PM
Looking for information regarding Col. John Fisher and family.
John Fisher, a native of Scotland, immigrated to America 1760 with sister
1768 Sep 12 Granted Lot 271. Orangeburgh Merchant. To England 1775 returned
and settled St. Augustine and then Savannah. Returned Orangeburgh 1780
Colonel in militia.
* John Fisher was born in Scotland ca. 1720(?).
* I believe he may have died in Jamaica ca. 1792(?).
* His property was confiscated during(?)/after(?) the Revolutionary War.
* Owned 3000 acres in Orangeburgh District
I believe John Fisher to be my 6th great grandfather, the father of my 5th
great grandmother, Mary Ann Fisher. Mary Ann Fisher married Joseph B. Burch
11 May 1762 at St. Philips Parish, Charleston, South Carolina. They resided
in Georgetown District (later Marion District).
* Was John Fisher Mary Ann Fisher's father?
* Who was John Fisher's wife?
* Who were John Fisher's children?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Kathy Burch Williams