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Just a reminder: we already have a set of bylaws, but they are very spare. It is generally a good idea to keep them small, but there are still some important ways they could be filled out.
My personal feeling is that the best place to start are some rules to facilitate our meetings in the "delayed response" environment we are in. That will allow subsequent actions to proceed more rapidly.
A committee will allow many ideas to be developed in a "smaller" and more "interested" environment, without the need to run every idea past everyone in here in OHGenWeb. Once these ideas have been "shaken out" and carefully crafted, they will necessarily need to be brought to the entire group for possible amendment and approval.
I also volunteer to be on this committee. However, I don't see a reason to exclude anyone who wants to participate, and it would be counter-productive to do so.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Scott
Guernsey C.
On Monday, November 17, 2008 5:37 AM MT, Dale Grimm <dale(a)kbanet.com> wrote:
> Right now the only rules governing OHGenWeb are a handful of motions that
> were put into place to handle specific issues as they arose.
>
> I believe that it's time we looked at adopting an official set of bylaws to
> govern the organization. The time to protect our investment in time and
> money is before problems arise, not after.
>
>Your thoughts?
My suggestion to the committee whom ever it ends up being is: PLEASE make the wording simple and in plain English.
Don't take five paragraphs to say one simple thing. Less is better!
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Mike, please don't ever hesitate to express your thoughts or opinions on
this list. I listen to every voice.
If someone volunteers for the list and you believe that they would be a bad
choice, please contact me privately with your concerns. Some CC's I have
come to know quite well. Some I have only acquaintance with. And others I
know by name only. However, I think voting on each individual volunteer
would take far too much time. In fact, I think we would have to hustle to
have this completed by the end of my term in April, 2011.
There will be plenty of time for discussion. And the main thing I would
like to see in the discussions would be what the OHGenWeb CC's would like to
see in the bylaws. I would expect the committee to take our input very
seriously.
I allowed 10 days for discussion on November 17. That 10 days ends on
Thanksgiving. Unless there are objections to the motion as presented, it
will pass by acclamation on Friday and we will start accepting volunteers
and discussing what we want in the bylaws.
And thank you for all of the votes of confidence.
Dale
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-----Original Message-----
From: ohgen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Joan Asche
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:07 PM
To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
I'm sorry that you feel this way, after all, your voice was heard and that
is evident by the fact that comments were made to your posts.
J. Asche
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think I will just keep my suggestions and opinions to myself from now
on.
> I have been with OHGENWEB for several years now. I can base my
> decision to stay with the project to not get involved with the
> political aspect since my voice is never heard anyway.
>
> Mike
>
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Hi, Mike,
I'm sorry if I came out sounding argumentative, but it was not
really a response to you. It was from the past, where we argued every
tiny point to the nth degree, and sometimes never came to a decision.
The process is extremely long, so expediting was my point.
I almost never voice my opinion because I really don't want to be
involved in all the politics, but it comes into my computer anyway. I
just want to get it over as quickly and amicably as possible. If someone
else has already expressed my opinion, I try not to clutter the e-mails
with a repeat.
Also, if you had the voice inflection added to everyone's
comments, it would sound better. I think everyone wants the best for the
organization, and discussion is a way to do it. It usually comes across
as an argument in e-mail. On occasion a person will push his/her point,
because he/she thinks it is the only right one, and things feel a bit
uncomfortable. Additionally, when a suggestion is made, everyone answers
at once, when they get their e-mail. They don't know the point will be
made by others. Don't be put off, because we should have a variety of
suggestions and opinions.
Cynthia Turk
Lake County OHGenWeb
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I think I will just keep my suggestions and opinions to myself from now on.
I have been with OHGENWEB for several years now. I can base my decision to
stay with the project to not get involved with the political aspect since my
voice is never heard anyway.
Mike
In a message dated 11/24/2008 12:38:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
myancestry(a)msn.com writes:
Being fairly new to the project also I have to agree with both Joan & Polly.
I personally think that anyone who has so graciously volunteered their
free time here at OHGenWeb is more than worthy of serving on a Committee and
I don't think we need to get into any discussions as to who is "more
worthy". Just to personal and political. That type of discussions
ultimately end up with hurt feelings and resentment. We seem to have a
great group of volunteers who seem to work well together, lets try and keep
it that way.
I think Dale's more than capable as our State Leader to come up with whom he
thinks is good if no one volunteers for the committee.
Chyrl Lawrence-Bulger
Pickaway & Ross County Coordinator
>From: "Joan Asche" <jasche45133(a)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:32:44 -0500
>
>The only problem I see with deciding on voting for committee members
>is that it may scare off some good people from volunteering.
>
>The second problem is that I don't know all of cc's very well being a
>rather new to the GenWeb project. I came on as a volunteer in 2006
>and I am still not familiar with all of the folks because so many of
>them stay quite on the list. So I don't trust my judgment to make a
>good decision.
>
>I don't have a problem letting Dale make the final decision on
>appointing the committee from a list of volunteers because by now he
>probably knows more who has a higher level of commitment to OHGenWeb
>than others.
>
>I would think that Dale can remain impartial and choose folks who are
>capable and not play favorites.
>
>J. Asche
>
>On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
> > volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the
>committee
> > members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few
>in mind
> > that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I
>would not
> > like to see on the committee.
> >
> > I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are interested
>in
> > serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could
>discuss
> > whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
> >
> > I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
> > involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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I think I will just keep my suggestions and opinions to myself from now on.
Mike
In a message dated 11/24/2008 12:38:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
myancestry(a)msn.com writes:
Being fairly new to the project also I have to agree with both Joan & Polly.
I personally think that anyone who has so graciously volunteered their
free time here at OHGenWeb is more than worthy of serving on a Committee and
I don't think we need to get into any discussions as to who is "more
worthy". Just to personal and political. That type of discussions
ultimately end up with hurt feelings and resentment. We seem to have a
great group of volunteers who seem to work well together, lets try and keep
it that way.
I think Dale's more than capable as our State Leader to come up with whom he
thinks is good if no one volunteers for the committee.
Chyrl Lawrence-Bulger
Pickaway & Ross County Coordinator
>From: "Joan Asche" <jasche45133(a)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:32:44 -0500
>
>The only problem I see with deciding on voting for committee members
>is that it may scare off some good people from volunteering.
>
>The second problem is that I don't know all of cc's very well being a
>rather new to the GenWeb project. I came on as a volunteer in 2006
>and I am still not familiar with all of the folks because so many of
>them stay quite on the list. So I don't trust my judgment to make a
>good decision.
>
>I don't have a problem letting Dale make the final decision on
>appointing the committee from a list of volunteers because by now he
>probably knows more who has a higher level of commitment to OHGenWeb
>than others.
>
>I would think that Dale can remain impartial and choose folks who are
>capable and not play favorites.
>
>J. Asche
>
>On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
> > volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the
>committee
> > members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few
>in mind
> > that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I
>would not
> > like to see on the committee.
> >
> > I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are interested
>in
> > serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could
>discuss
> > whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
> >
> > I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
> > involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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Mike - in my opinion you should always express your thoughts whether they
are agreed with or not. You never know who may be just lurking and agreeing
but remain silent.
As to the Committee and how it gets created I must now comment. I have been
a member of the Ohio GenWeb longer than most (but surely not all), having
joined when less than half the counties were represented with a coordinator.
That in and of itself doesn't make my opinion any more relevant. But it
does allow me to say that I would find it hard to pass judgment on who gets
appointed in spite of the fact that I have long tenure and have watched a
lot occur over the past 10 plus years. I know a couple of people who I feel
would make a good contribution. I know some people who think very
differently than I do about "things" - the but their passion for the Project
is no less than mine. Without the person to person contact on a sustained
basis I can not make a good judgement about any of my CC peers.
With that as background -- we elected Dale as our State leader. Just as the
US President has the right -- Mike has the right to appoint people he feels
will make a strong contribution. If he is smart, he will make sure the
Committee is represented with people who are "self-thinkers" and can express
their opinion with conviction. If we end up nominating and voting on who
sits on the Committee we will never get this done. We have to trust our
leadership. And let us not forget, we will have the right to vote on what
the Committee proposes.
If the Second Continental Congress can send Thomas Jefferson off to write
the Declaration of Independence "out of his head" and all by himself, surly
we can trust a Committee to come up with a proposal for the rest of us. As
with Jefferson's first draft, much was changed. We will have opportunity to
do same.
Dale needs to move the process forward, appoint the Committee and put them
to work.
----- Original Message -----
From: <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com>
To: <ohgen(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
>
>
>
> I think I will just keep my suggestions and opinions to myself from now
> on.
> I have been with OHGENWEB for several years now. I can base my decision to
> stay with the project to not get involved with the political aspect since
> my
> voice is never heard anyway.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/24/2008 12:38:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> myancestry(a)msn.com writes:
>
> Being fairly new to the project also I have to agree with both Joan &
> Polly.
>
> I personally think that anyone who has so graciously volunteered their
> free time here at OHGenWeb is more than worthy of serving on a Committee
> and
> I don't think we need to get into any discussions as to who is "more
> worthy". Just to personal and political. That type of discussions
> ultimately end up with hurt feelings and resentment. We seem to have a
> great group of volunteers who seem to work well together, lets try and
> keep
> it that way.
>
> I think Dale's more than capable as our State Leader to come up with whom
> he
> thinks is good if no one volunteers for the committee.
>
> Chyrl Lawrence-Bulger
> Pickaway & Ross County Coordinator
>
>>From: "Joan Asche" <jasche45133(a)gmail.com>
>>Reply-To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>>To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>>Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
>>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:32:44 -0500
>>
>>The only problem I see with deciding on voting for committee members
>>is that it may scare off some good people from volunteering.
>>
>>The second problem is that I don't know all of cc's very well being a
>>rather new to the GenWeb project. I came on as a volunteer in 2006
>>and I am still not familiar with all of the folks because so many of
>>them stay quite on the list. So I don't trust my judgment to make a
>>good decision.
>>
>>I don't have a problem letting Dale make the final decision on
>>appointing the committee from a list of volunteers because by now he
>>probably knows more who has a higher level of commitment to OHGenWeb
>>than others.
>>
>>I would think that Dale can remain impartial and choose folks who are
>>capable and not play favorites.
>>
>>J. Asche
>>
>>On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
>> > volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the
>>committee
>> > members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few
>>in mind
>> > that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I
>>would not
>> > like to see on the committee.
>> >
>> > I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are
>> > interested
>>in
>> > serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could
>>discuss
>> > whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
>> >
>> > I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
>> > involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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Being fairly new to the project also I have to agree with both Joan & Polly.
I personally think that anyone who has so graciously volunteered their
free time here at OHGenWeb is more than worthy of serving on a Committee and
I don't think we need to get into any discussions as to who is "more
worthy". Just to personal and political. That type of discussions
ultimately end up with hurt feelings and resentment. We seem to have a
great group of volunteers who seem to work well together, lets try and keep
it that way.
I think Dale's more than capable as our State Leader to come up with whom he
thinks is good if no one volunteers for the committee.
Chyrl Lawrence-Bulger
Pickaway & Ross County Coordinator
>From: "Joan Asche" <jasche45133(a)gmail.com>
>Reply-To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject - The Committee
>Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:32:44 -0500
>
>The only problem I see with deciding on voting for committee members
>is that it may scare off some good people from volunteering.
>
>The second problem is that I don't know all of cc's very well being a
>rather new to the GenWeb project. I came on as a volunteer in 2006
>and I am still not familiar with all of the folks because so many of
>them stay quite on the list. So I don't trust my judgment to make a
>good decision.
>
>I don't have a problem letting Dale make the final decision on
>appointing the committee from a list of volunteers because by now he
>probably knows more who has a higher level of commitment to OHGenWeb
>than others.
>
>I would think that Dale can remain impartial and choose folks who are
>capable and not play favorites.
>
>J. Asche
>
>On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
> > volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the
>committee
> > members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few
>in mind
> > that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I
>would not
> > like to see on the committee.
> >
> > I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are interested
>in
> > serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could
>discuss
> > whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
> >
> > I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
> > involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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Good morning!
Regarding selection of a bylaws committee - In my experience, the
committee is appointed by the president/chairman, often from a list of
volunteers that he/she thinks will work well together. This committee is
charged with putting together a draft of bylaws that they feel would best
serve the organization. This is no small job, and the more people you
have doing it, the longer it takes. A committee of three seems good to
me, but five would work. It would be especially good if they could meet
in person. The entire draft is usually presented so that the membership
has an idea of what they are working with. A change in one section often
will necessitate changes in many others.
Now this draft, we have already decided, will be discussed line
by line by the entire membership. In my estimation, if there are about
three pages of bylaws, at 10 days of discussion and ten days of voting
for each little section, we ought to have bylaws by 2012 at the very
best. It will be a lot longer if we fuss a lot over tiny details and do
introductions and web pages for each member of the potential committee,
discussions, voting, etc. on the committee. Please, let's expedite and
get this done.
Cynthia Turk
Lake Co. OHGenWeb
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The only problem I see with deciding on voting for committee members
is that it may scare off some good people from volunteering.
The second problem is that I don't know all of cc's very well being a
rather new to the GenWeb project. I came on as a volunteer in 2006
and I am still not familiar with all of the folks because so many of
them stay quite on the list. So I don't trust my judgment to make a
good decision.
I don't have a problem letting Dale make the final decision on
appointing the committee from a list of volunteers because by now he
probably knows more who has a higher level of commitment to OHGenWeb
than others.
I would think that Dale can remain impartial and choose folks who are
capable and not play favorites.
J. Asche
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:06 PM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
> volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the committee
> members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few in mind
> that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I would not
> like to see on the committee.
>
> I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are interested in
> serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could discuss
> whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
>
> I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
> involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
>
> Mike
>
I understand that the committee is made up of volunteers. We are all
volunteers of OHGENWEB. I feel the CC's have a right to vote for the committee
members they feel would represent our interests. I know Dale has a few in mind
that he would like to have for the committee. I myself have a few I would not
like to see on the committee.
I also feel it should be posted on the list of those who are interested in
serving on the committee as soon as possible so that all CC's could discuss
whom or whom not they would like to see serve.
I am not trying to be difficult. I just feel all CC's should be more
involved in what happens in OHGENWEB.
Mike
In a message dated 11/20/2008 8:00:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jasche45133(a)gmail.com writes:
Hi,
If you look at a earlier thread where this was discussed the committee
is made up of volunteers.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/OHGEN/2008-11/1226930942
It's not been stated anyone interested in volunteer is are to make
themselves known or if are to contact Dale privately.
J. Asche
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:21 AM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> How is the committee going to be picked? Is that entirely up to Dale to
> decide or do we get to vote for the committee members?
>
> I know Dale had said he had at least 5 people in mind but that does not
mean
> the rest of the CC's will agree.
>
> I feel several things need to be discussed in-depth as we proceed with our
> amendments and bylaws.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth
>
> Mike Sandridge
> Defiance, Henry, Paulding & Williams Co, OH
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Hi,
If you look at a earlier thread where this was discussed the committee
is made up of volunteers.
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/OHGEN/2008-11/1226930942
It's not been stated anyone interested in volunteer is are to make
themselves known or if are to contact Dale privately.
J. Asche
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 2:21 AM, <GenealogyLookUp(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> How is the committee going to be picked? Is that entirely up to Dale to
> decide or do we get to vote for the committee members?
>
> I know Dale had said he had at least 5 people in mind but that does not mean
> the rest of the CC's will agree.
>
> I feel several things need to be discussed in-depth as we proceed with our
> amendments and bylaws.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth
>
> Mike Sandridge
> Defiance, Henry, Paulding & Williams Co, OH
>
>
> In a message dated 11/19/2008 10:40:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wnoliver(a)sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> 'siyo Folks,
>
> It was moved and seconded that ... "a committee be formed to develop
> bylaws for the OHGenWeb Project; that the membership be asked for
> discussion and amendments; and, that each section of the bylaws proposed
> be handled separately. "
>
> It seems that this has been laid aside and superseded by discussion of
> charging dues [at the national and state levels]. This is a great
> discussion going; however, I'd like to see our motion before the group
> get some action going and resolved.
>
> We have plenty of time to resolve presentation/sponsorship of an
> amendment to our USGWP.
>
> Sgi,
>
> Bill
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>
>
>
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How is the committee going to be picked? Is that entirely up to Dale to
decide or do we get to vote for the committee members?
I know Dale had said he had at least 5 people in mind but that does not mean
the rest of the CC's will agree.
I feel several things need to be discussed in-depth as we proceed with our
amendments and bylaws.
Just my 2 cents worth
Mike Sandridge
Defiance, Henry, Paulding & Williams Co, OH
In a message dated 11/19/2008 10:40:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
wnoliver(a)sbcglobal.net writes:
'siyo Folks,
It was moved and seconded that ... "a committee be formed to develop
bylaws for the OHGenWeb Project; that the membership be asked for
discussion and amendments; and, that each section of the bylaws proposed
be handled separately. "
It seems that this has been laid aside and superseded by discussion of
charging dues [at the national and state levels]. This is a great
discussion going; however, I'd like to see our motion before the group
get some action going and resolved.
We have plenty of time to resolve presentation/sponsorship of an
amendment to our USGWP.
Sgi,
Bill
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'siyo,
No Problem. Like I said, there's plenty of time.
Sgi,
Bill
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Dale Grimm wrote:
> Bill,
>
> The motion was made and seconded. I have to allow time for discussion of
> the motion and allow for any objections. If there are no objections, I can
> declare it passed by acclamation. I believe 10 days is sufficient time.
>
>
> Dale
>
>
Bill,
The motion was made and seconded. I have to allow time for discussion of
the motion and allow for any objections. If there are no objections, I can
declare it passed by acclamation. I believe 10 days is sufficient time.
Dale
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From: ohgen-bounces(a)rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On
Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:03 AM
To: ohgen(a)rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [OHGENWEB] On a related subject,
'siyo Folks,
It was moved and seconded that ... "a committee be formed to develop bylaws
for the OHGenWeb Project; that the membership be asked for discussion and
amendments; and, that each section of the bylaws proposed be handled
separately. "
It seems that this has been laid aside and superseded by discussion of
charging dues [at the national and state levels]. This is a great
discussion going; however, I'd like to see our motion before the group get
some action going and resolved.
We have plenty of time to resolve presentation/sponsorship of an amendment
to our USGWP.
Sgi,
Bill
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Thanks for the reminder. I believe it is important to get our own state bylaws going, since I believe that states bylaws trump national ones, and since there are some strange phraseology in the national bylaws, we can correct those for our state. For example, wording about the logo placement is confusing--we should be able to make that clearer for Ohio counties. That's just one area--I know there are others.
Alice Allen
US GenWeb Project County Coordinator for
Geauga Co., OH
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgeauga/geauga.html
Seneca Co., OH
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html
NENC CC Rep
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On 11/19/2008 at 10:02 AM wnoliver(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>'siyo Folks,
>
>It was moved and seconded that ... "a committee be formed to develop
>bylaws for the OHGenWeb Project; that the membership be asked for
>discussion and amendments; and, that each section of the bylaws proposed
>be handled separately. "
>
>It seems that this has been laid aside and superseded by discussion of
>charging dues [at the national and state levels]. This is a great
>discussion going; however, I'd like to see our motion before the group
>get some action going and resolved.
>
>We have plenty of time to resolve presentation/sponsorship of an
>amendment to our USGWP.
>
>Sgi,
>
>Bill
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>
I do not need to do the genealogy sites to be online. I have my own part
of the internet completely separate from USGenWeb.
I do the USGenWeb genealogy websites to further free genealogy and help
out with volunteering.
I have trouble envisioning paying dues to be a volunteer. If it comes
to paying dues to USGW, I will be rethinking my involvement.
And please do not send me any more off-list email about this subject.
This discussion is on the list. I will delete any email on list-subjects
sent to me privately.
Sheila
Sandy,
I don't really want to stir up a hornets next but I can't afford to
pay dues. I don't belong to any organizations because of this and I
would have to quit GenWeb if dues were required.
I think there are more GenWeb volunteers who are in the same situation
as I and if GenWeb starts to require dues they would loose a lot of
good volunteers and not pick up anymore.
I couldn't do this if I had to pay for webspace. The fact that that
free webspace makes it possible for me to devote the hours that I do
to my sites.
Those of us who do this believe in free genealogy do this because it
is free, but after all these years if we have to start to pay dues to
volunteer the project will loose a lot of devoted people.
I can assure you that Ohio would have three adoptable counties.
Joan
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Sandra Quinn <ohgen(a)alltel.net> wrote:
> I am slightly behind in reading of all the emails, I just got home from
> 14 days out of state. After reading everyones emails, it seems things
> are being handled well.
>
> Just one note about what is provided though that is being discounted is
> that yes we are getting something in return for our volunteerism in
> USGenWeb, we are being _*freely published*_ on to the world wide web.
> For just a few rules we are able to put our ideas, thoughts, creativity,
> and information that we choose to share with the world online. Pretty
> amazing when you think about it.
>
> I have published several books for my county and have *paid quite a cost
> to do so* and then wait years for reimbursement to come. To print and
> publish 700 books with a 52 page limit costs 3200 dollars at my local
> printers. We actually get a lot for our time like contact with people
> from all over the world whom we may never have reached without our
> websites.
>
> Just another way of looking at all this about dues.
>
> Sandy Quinn
ops! If we pay dues, then the "organization" should supply us with equipment, supplies and any charges for our access to the internet and web sites (if we are charged for them) and I think maybe at least minimum wages.
What would the "dues" be used for anyway? Don't we pay enough not even including our time?
I'd love a new computer and faster internet access...dibs first!!!!!!!!
Carol
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