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>Allen Richmond wrote:
>> Wally Garchow <wally(a)calweb.com> wrote:
>> > >The requested URL /~usgenweb/oh/darke.htm was not found on this server.
>> > I must have missed it. When was this change/loss announced?
>> There hasn't been anything on the OH list posted about changes within
>> the USGW-OH portion of the USGW Archives.
The standard layout for the archives should have always had the page at
/!usgenweb/oh/darke/darke.htm (or index.htm) ... i.e., in it's own darke
county directory.
It appears that someone corrected this to be as it should be by moving
darke.htm to the darke directory, they also appear to have replaced it so
now it is in the oh and the darke directories.
>> Check it and see if that is the page you're seeking. From what I can
>> see at the Darke listing, though, the description pages are not
>> extant. Only the generic file-name is found when one clicks on the
>> links shown:
>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/bible/">Bible
>> Records</A>
<section of additional urls deleted>
ftp urls have always led to directory listings, I found all the toc's in
place with
http listings:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/darke/dk_bible.htm
and so forth
>> > Maybe every county should have the option to mount those themselves to
>index
>> > their county's archives and make the data more accessible.
>>
>> That sounds like a very good option - would provide double exposure
>> so visitors/researchers could easily find the information they seek
>> in more than one venue.
Individual counties have always been able to place a TOC on their site to
the contents of the archives. Few have bothered to do so.
>> > And the Archives has
>> > publicly announced (elsewhere) that CCs may not download from the archives
>> > for their pages.
>>
>> Apparently the unofficial word out "on the street" is that archive
>> materials *may* be posted at the county site through contacting the
>> contributor and asking for their permission to duplicate/post at the
>> county level, if the contributor has not already donated a copy to the
>> county site itself.
You can't go posting stuff places without the permission of the contributor
so I understand them saying we can't download freely for putting on our
county sites but I would very much like to see the Archives people
suggesting to any contributor that they also see if the county site would
like to put the file up or better yet, seek a permission for that from the
contributor at the time of receiving the file. The Archives has long asked
us CC's to send contributions of material to them, a one way street... why
can't the Archives people help push material back to teh county sites?
>> > Is it now US/OHGenWeb policy that all Archives are only
>> > accessible by search engine? If this US/OHGenWeb policy or Rootsweb
>policy????
The above simply isn't so.
>> I don't know if USGW has such a policy in place - nothing has been
>> mentioned at the upper levels of "management" (term used very
>> loosely). RW generally doesn't make their policies known (apparently)
>> until after-the-fact, given the developments of the last few weeks as
>> example.
RW has nothing to do with USGW decisions about internal directory
structures or contents.
>> Let's get some input in here from others in OHGW and see what we can
>> all learn.
It looks to me like someone in the archives tried to bring Darke County's
area into alignment with the rest of the structure. I am sure Darke County
is not the only one *out of alignment* but a consistent directory structure
is an admirable goal. I have often gone to a county I wanted by typing in
the basic url: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ and adding the two letter
state and then the county name.
There has never been a rule against counties listing and giving links to
specific files in the Archives, often a county can give better descriptions
and context. Freely downloading files for use on the county sites is a
problem as the contributor's permission is needed to put them up on the
county site. But, we do need more cooperation back from the Archives
people, including better information about contributed files and they ought
to ask contributors if files may also be added to the County Sites.
Holly Timm
Brown County
Allen Richmond wrote:
>
> Howdy Wally and All:
>
> Wally Garchow <wally(a)calweb.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here is the URL for my county's archives which I have used to point folks to
> > the Table of Contents for files submitted to the Archives for my county.
> >
> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/darke.htm
> >
> > When I take this link, I get this message:
> >
> > >Not Found
> > >The requested URL /~usgenweb/oh/darke.htm was not found on this server.
> >
> > I must have missed it. When was this change/loss announced?
>
> There hasn't been anything on the OH list posted about changes within
> the USGW-OH portion of the USGW Archives.
>
> > The link above
> > is now bad and browsing around I cannot find ANYWHERE that the old table of
> > contents (which provided information about the contents of each file
> > submitted) exists. If it does, what is the URL I should be reporting?
>
> Apparently the TOC for Darke Co has been relocated one directory level
> deeper into the archives, from what I can deciper from a look just
> now. Took me a few pages to get there (why?), but the URL now appears
> to be:
>
> [ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/oh/darke/darke.htm ]
>
> Check it and see if that is the page you're seeking. From what I can
> see at the Darke listing, though, the description pages are not
> extant. Only the generic file-name is found when one clicks on the
> links shown:
>
> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/bible/">Bible
> Records</A>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/bios/">Biographies</A>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/births/">Births</A></FONT>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/deaths/">Deaths</A>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/military/">Military</A>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/misc/">Miscellaneous</A>
> <A
> HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/obits/">Obituaries</A>
> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/darke/wills/">Wills</A>
>
> The only page which seems to have a subsequent page for description
> is:
>
> <A HREF="dk-census.htm">Census Images</A>
>
> I haven't been made aware of any restructuring going on in the
> Archives, but then again... (Judy, any word on your end??)
>
> > Has the Archives abandoned altogether those Tables of Contents for each
> > county?
> > How will browsers know what is in those files if there are no
> > titles/descriptions or meaningful file names?
> > Do those old tables of contents even exist any longer as files somewhere?
> > Maybe every county should have the option to mount those themselves to index
> > their county's archives and make the data more accessible.
>
> That sounds like a very good option - would provide double exposure
> so visitors/researchers could easily find the information they seek
> in more than one venue.
>
> > The Archives are
> > now gibberish without them and not worth linking to.
>
> Let's ask those who can answer the questions. Maggie? Carol?
>
> > And the Archives has
> > publicly announced (elsewhere) that CCs may not download from the archives
> > for their pages.
>
> Apparently the unofficial word out "on the street" is that archive
> materials *may* be posted at the county site through contacting the
> contributor and asking for their permission to duplicate/post at the
> county level, if the contributor has not already donated a copy to the
> county site itself.
>
> Maggie? Carol?
>
> > Is it now US/OHGenWeb policy that all Archives are only
> > accessible by search engine? If this US/OHGenWeb policy or Rootsweb policy????
>
> OHGW has no such policy in place. If the need is there, we can place
> a referendum up to our Buckeye CCs for input/discussion/placement
> within our policy pages.
>
> I don't know if USGW has such a policy in place - nothing has been
> mentioned at the upper levels of "management" (term used very
> loosely). RW generally doesn't make their policies known (apparently)
> until after-the-fact, given the developments of the last few weeks as
> example.
>
> Let's get some input in here from others in OHGW and see what we can
> all learn.
>
> Thanks!
> Allen
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Allen Richmond
> sciototrails(a)usa.net
>
> OHGenWeb Project State Coordinator
> http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/
>
> In the asking comes sharing;
> in sharing comes knowledge;
> in knowledge comes wisdom which lasts a lifetime. --ar.
>
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>
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I used the last link and found Darke county right away. I found
the census file and have found some of my relations there.
Martha Martin
Check our web pages at
http://www.geocities.com/heartland/hills/7680
Researching the Surnames:
Mooney..Long..Emery..Staples..Bond..Goodman..Shipman..
Hathaway/Hattaway..Stephens..Copeland...Brown:
Hi, wondered if someone could give me the url for the Adams Co. Ohio genweb
page?
I tried the one off the State page but evidently the page has been moved.
Thanks in advance.
Carol
Hi, wondered if someone could give me the url for the Adams Co. Ohio genweb
page?
I tried the one off the State page but evidently the page has been moved.
Thanks in advance.
Carol
Hi, wondered if someone could give me the url for the Adams Co. Ohio genweb
page?
I tried the one off the State page but evidently the page has been moved.
Thanks in advance.
Carol
----- Original Message -----
From: Bennie McRae <bjm(a)coax.net>
To: <OH-AfricaAmer-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:22 AM
Subject: African American Genealogy Group of the Miami Valley (AAGGMV)
> The first meeting of the African American Genealogy Group of the Miami
> Valley (AAGGMV) posted at:
>
> http://www.coax.net/people/lwf/aagg_pr1.htm
>
> ******************************************************************
>
> African American Genealogy Group of the Miami Valley (AAGGMV)
>
> *** PRESS RELEASE ***
>
> For further information contact: Mr. Robert Harris - E-mail:
harrisrl1(a)juno.com
>
>
>
> The first meeting of the African American Genealogy Group of the Miami
> Valley (AAGGMV) was held on Saturday, July 31 in the meeting room of the
> Yellow Springs Public Library, Yellow Springs, Ohio.
>
> An overflow crowd of more than fifty people braved ninety-degree plus
> temperatures to discuss advantages of membership in this new organization.
> Attendees came largely from three neighboring counties: Montgomery,
> Greene, and Clark; however some were from as far away as Mansfield, OH.
and
> Racine,WI. Among the audience were several noted local authors of books on
> African American genealogy and publishers of individual family histories.
>
> The crowd was addressed by four speakers. Mr. Robert L. Harris, a retired
AF
> engineer, and organizer of the meeting, presented arguments for formation
of
> the new group.
>
> Mr. Art Thomas, a noted Springfield, Ohio lecturer and writer of African
> American genealogy, who has traced his ancestors back to the 1740's, gave
a
> presentation of his personal experiences in genealogy, and identified
several
> important works and authors in the field.
>
> Mr. Bennie McRae, Trotwood Ohio, spoke about his award-winning Internet
web
> site devoted to African American history. (His site won awards by The
Dayton
> Daily News in 1998 and '99 for being among the best in the Miami
> Valley) He emphasized the link between genealogy and history.
>
> Mr. Jonas Bender, the group's publicist, noted the national attention that
> media has paid to the growing field of genealogy in recent years, and
> pointed to African Americans mentioned in recent articles.
>
> Dr. Olabisi Gwamna, from Nigeria, currently a professor of history at
> Wilberforce University, commented on genealogy's "reverse bridge," of
> Africans tracing their descendants to American slaves; and announced the
> upcoming Wilberforce International Conference on Slave Narratives with
it's
> theme: "Chronicling Our Present; Remembering Our Past; Predicting Our
> Future." She invited the AAGGMV to organize a genealogy workshop for
> the conference. This invitation was accepted.
>
> Ms. Deanna Ulvestad, Head Archivist for the Greene-County Room (Local
> History and Genealogy) at the Xenia Public Library, gave an overview of
> library holdings and resource materials supporting African American
genealogy.
>
> The formal meeting lasted two hours and flowed-over into many informal
group
> discussions afterwards.
>
> The next meeting will be held September 25, 1999 from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. in
> Dayton or Trotwood, Ohio. Location will be announced later.
>
>
>
>
>
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FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 9-Aug-99 17:04
Subject: Submission for consideration to Ohio's GenWeb Page
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Greg Reeves <greg(a)rapidnet.com>
Hi Maggie:
You folks have a nice website over "there" at the Ohio GenWeb
project. Congratulations on a job well-done!
I recently have uploaded a completely free database onto the
'Net that I'd like for you'all to consider adding a "hotlink" on your
site to. It's entiled "Ohio Soldiers Aboard the 1865 Sultana" and
it contains the name, rank, company & regiment of 652 paroled
(Union) U.S. Civil War soldiers from Ohio who were aboard the
steamship Sultana when her boilers exploded early on the morning
of April 27, 1865 just nine miles north of Memphis, TN on the
Mississippi River.
Maggie, at least 210 of those brave 'Buckeyes' died in what remains
even today as America's worst-ever maritime tragedy, a disaster
that likely took the lives of over 1,500 souls-----even more than
were lost on the Titanic just 47 years later!
Because *so many* were lost, I believe that the site will be of immense
value to any serious genealogist searching for "lost" ancestors from
Ohio. A simple link would be great but a more prominent (temporary)
"showcasing" of the database on your site would be wonderful and
*very* much appreciated. You can review it for consideration at URL:
http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Sultana/OH/OHSult.html
Thanks
Greg Reeves
ANDERSONVILLE-L and SULTANA-L Listowner, SultanaRing Ringmaster
see: http://www.rapidnet.com/~greg/Tom
greg(a)rapidnet.com
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Just checking to make sure you all are awake and alert <grin>
Holly
PS: thanks for catching that Lorraine
At 10:20 PM 8/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Holly,
>ooppss... url should read:
>http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbrown
><grin>
>Lorraine
>
>At 10:13 PM 8/10/99 -0400, Holly Timm wrote:
>>I've taken over Brown County from Sandy Lewis (with the promise that she
>>can have it back down the road)... the new url is:
>> http://www.rootsweb.com/ohbrown
>>
>>
>>Holly Timm
>>hollyft(a)bright.net
>>
>>
>>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>>
>>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>>
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>
>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
Holly,
ooppss... url should read:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohbrown
<grin>
Lorraine
At 10:13 PM 8/10/99 -0400, Holly Timm wrote:
>I've taken over Brown County from Sandy Lewis (with the promise that she
>can have it back down the road)... the new url is:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/ohbrown
>
>
>Holly Timm
>hollyft(a)bright.net
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>
>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
I've taken over Brown County from Sandy Lewis (with the promise that she
can have it back down the road)... the new url is:
http://www.rootsweb.com/ohbrown
Holly Timm
hollyft(a)bright.net
At 06:10 PM 8/7/99 -0500, Sandra L. Lewis wrote:
>Is there someone willing to take over as Brown County CC? I just can't do this
>right now.
>Sandy Lewis
Sandy, if you like I'll take over and maintain Brown County until you can
take it back or until someone with information and knowledge about the area
can take it on
Holly Timm
Holly,
It's a date!
At 08:13 PM 08/06/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>At 06:26 AM 8/6/99 -0400, Karen S. Smith wrote:
>>I owe everyone a very big apology. I am truly sorry for missing the chat
>>last night!!!! I finished dinner and had a major sinus headache so I
>>decided to lay down for awhile. Well, my husband wok me up at 11:00 so I
>>could go to bed. I am so sorry and would like very much to be rescheduled
>>if you all are still willing to have me!
>
>Karen.... you are forgiven <grin>... I bet each and every one of us has had
>something similar happen at some point (or more than once)... how about
>next Thursday, same time and place?
>
>Holly
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>
>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
At 06:26 AM 8/6/99 -0400, Karen S. Smith wrote:
>I owe everyone a very big apology. I am truly sorry for missing the chat
>last night!!!! I finished dinner and had a major sinus headache so I
>decided to lay down for awhile. Well, my husband wok me up at 11:00 so I
>could go to bed. I am so sorry and would like very much to be rescheduled
>if you all are still willing to have me!
Karen.... you are forgiven <grin>... I bet each and every one of us has had
something similar happen at some point (or more than once)... how about
next Thursday, same time and place?
Holly
Holly & All,
I owe everyone a very big apology. I am truly sorry for missing the chat
last night!!!! I finished dinner and had a major sinus headache so I
decided to lay down for awhile. Well, my husband wok me up at 11:00 so I
could go to bed. I am so sorry and would like very much to be rescheduled
if you all are still willing to have me!
Karen S. Smith, 3rd Vice President
The Ohio Genealogical Society
http://www.ogs.org
The #ohio chat session has moved to Thursday nights at the same time, 9PM.
Karen, aka Secretary on irc, will talk about what all OGS has to offer.
Holly Timm
aka MaMaT
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