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Hello,
I am home now. Weak. Walking Pneumonia is nothing to fool with.
I'm taking it easy now. Don't want a relapse.
Thank You for your Prayers.
They were answered.
I walked about with a Temp of 103 for three days thinking I had the Flu. I
was taken to the Doctor and then to Emergency.
God heard us all. My Doctor now believes, Prayer answes all.
God Bless to You All,
Thank You
Sandy
Hi,
I want to let you know that the US Civil War Colored Troops Site has it's
own Domain.
http://www.cwuscoloredtroops.org/index.html
To Sub to the List.
This list is for the whole United States.
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Thank You,
Sandy Johnson
Welcome HOme!
At 04:33 PM 6/28/99 -0700, you wrote:
>The USGenWeb page for Darke County, Ohio, has returned home. It is now
>located at http://www.calweb.com/~wally/ohdarke/index.htm
>
>Thanks.
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>wally(a)calweb.com
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>
>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
>
>
Scott R. Williams 845N, 1200 E Rd Melvin , IL 60952
For any WILLIAMS Researcher .....
http://www.williamspage.com
For and COSHOCTON Co., OHIO Researcher .....
http://www.coshocton.org
Just to let you all know I'm outta here tomorrow morning for a trip to visit
my family in Colorado Springs. Mary Ann is "minding the store" with my OH
lists, I've updated my queries, and put a link to the Query Express page so
researchers can view new queries that I won't be able to post til I get
back. Should be back the night of the 8th or 9th--but most certainly by the
10th.
Alice Allen
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USGenWeb Project County Coordinator for the following:
Marshall Co. KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/marshall/
Geauga Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgeauga/geauga.html
Seneca Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html
Clark Co. WA http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclark/clark.htm
List owner for OHSENECA-L, OHGEAUGA-L & WACLARK-L
Hi All,
Alice, this list is for all CCs stay in touch and help each other. That
is exactly what you are doing here. This is, of course, an OK message for
this list. Thank you Mary Ann for pitching in. You are always there to help.
I feel the same way about all the posts about Rootsweb and the proposed
amendments I'm learning along with the rest of you. I appreciate all the
input. Everyone is staying cool about it and sharing information. That makes
for a great learning experience and rational decision making on the part of
all OHGenWeb CCs.
Peace, Judy
----- Original Message -----
From: DC & Alice Allen <dcaallen(a)pacifier.com>
To: <OHGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 4:38 PM
Subject: [OHGEN-L] Need a temporary list-sitter
>I'll be leaving on vacation early Monday morning for almost 2 weeks, and am
>wondering if there is a CC/listowner who would be willing to take on "list
>sitting" OHSENECA-L and/or OHGEAUGA-L for me while I'm gone.
>
>I checked out the page of potential list sitters on Rootsweb, but most of
>them are surname listowners, I'd rather have someone who has one of the
>GenWeb lists.
>
>Both lists are very nice--we've never had a flame war (yet), so there
>wouldn't be much to do.
>
>Please reply privately (and if this isn't okay to solicit help here, please
>let me know).
>
>Alice Allen
>dcaallen(a)pacifier.com
>
>-------
>USGenWeb Project County Coordinator for the following:
>
>Marshall Co. KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/marshall/
>Geauga Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgeauga/geauga.html
>Seneca Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html
>Clark Co. WA http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclark/clark.htm
>
>List owner for OHSENECA-L, OHGEAUGA-L & WACLARK-L
>
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
>
>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
Hello All, just a quick note to remind you we will be talking about the up
coming election.
I have invited Tina Vickery to be a guest speaker. I will try to get a few
more candidates to show up to talk to us about there campaign's.
if you need to find out about how to join us you can visit the chat page at:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohmahoni/chat/
or you can contact me at:
MHet703234(a)aol.com
hope to see you in the chat!
Mary Ann
Trumbull, Mahoning, and Summit Counties
Howdy All:
Please pardon the intrusion.
___________________________________
BILL OLIVER: Please contact me before Monday noon EDT, 28 Jun 1999
regarding the Wood County OHGenWeb site. Direct and
private email hasn't garnered results, so the next (and
final) step is to make a public plea for contact.
___________________________________
Thanks.
Allen
______________________________________________________________________
Allen Richmond
sciototrails(a)usa.net
OHGenWeb Project State Coordinator
http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/
In the asking comes sharing;
in sharing comes knowledge;
in knowledge comes wisdom which lasts a lifetime. --ar.
______________________________________________________________________
___________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
Dear Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan,
New Hampshire, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont,
Wisconsin State, Assistant State, and County Coordinators:
My name is Tina Vickery, and I was nominated and accepted the
nomination for Northeast/North Central County Coordinator
Representative in the upcoming USGenWeb Project elections.
I look forward to opening a dialogue with each of you. The nomination
was based on the following qualifications:
"...service shall have been as a State Coordinator, Local Coordinator,
or one of the various positions associated with the Special Projects,
respectively. "In good standing" is demonstrated by responding promptly
to email, actively supporting researchers efforts to find information,
maintaining their website with appropriate, up-to-date content, and
serving as a good example of the guidelines and standards of The
USGenWeb Project."
I have worked hard over the last few years to represent each of them.
I serve as the Assistant State Coordinator for the State of Maine, and
serve as County Coordinator for 3 of the 16 counties of Maine. I serve
as the VT USGenWeb Archives File Manager. I assist with ME USGenWeb
Archives. I have also taken on the role of coordinator for the
USGenWeb Archives Pensions Project. I also work with the Tombstone
Transcription Project for the State of Maine and New Hampshire.
I take whatever my role listed above very seriously, and regardless of
my hat that I am wearing, try to keep the visitors to my pages in mind.
I work well with other USGenWeb Project volunteers, and listen to my
visitors as to what they do and do not like about the USGenWeb Project
pages I host. People who work with me know that I am dedicated to the
project and to the mission of "providing free genealogical information
on-line."
I look forward to working with all of you.
Sincerely,
Tina S. Vickery
Northeast/North Central County Coordinator Representative Nominee
{Please forward to your State Lists}
______________________________________________________________________
___________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
Allen Richmond
sciototrails(a)usa.net
OHGenWeb Project State Coordinator
http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/
In the asking comes sharing;
in sharing comes knowledge;
in knowledge comes wisdom which lasts a lifetime. --ar.
Hello all,
Do to some likely and unexpected changes in my military status...
Allen Richmond, former Highland CC will be running Highland until I return,
or it becomes obvious I will not return.
Many Thanks to Allen for holding down my fort.
Best wishes,
Jeff
I'll be leaving on vacation early Monday morning for almost 2 weeks, and am
wondering if there is a CC/listowner who would be willing to take on "list
sitting" OHSENECA-L and/or OHGEAUGA-L for me while I'm gone.
I checked out the page of potential list sitters on Rootsweb, but most of
them are surname listowners, I'd rather have someone who has one of the
GenWeb lists.
Both lists are very nice--we've never had a flame war (yet), so there
wouldn't be much to do.
Please reply privately (and if this isn't okay to solicit help here, please
let me know).
Alice Allen
dcaallen(a)pacifier.com
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USGenWeb Project County Coordinator for the following:
Marshall Co. KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/marshall/
Geauga Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgeauga/geauga.html
Seneca Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html
Clark Co. WA http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclark/clark.htm
List owner for OHSENECA-L, OHGEAUGA-L & WACLARK-L
Alice, email me in private, I will help you out.
MHet703234(a)aol.com
good luck on your vacation.
Mary Ann
In a message dated Fri, 25 Jun 1999 4:35:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "DC &
Alice Allen" <dcaallen(a)pacifier.com> writes:
> I'll be leaving on vacation early Monday morning for almost 2 weeks, and am
> wondering if there is a CC/listowner who would be willing to take on "list
> sitting" OHSENECA-L and/or OHGEAUGA-L for me while I'm gone.
>
> I checked out the page of potential list sitters on Rootsweb, but most of
> them are surname listowners, I'd rather have someone who has one of the
> GenWeb lists.
>
> Both lists are very nice--we've never had a flame war (yet), so there
> wouldn't be much to do.
>
> Please reply privately (and if this isn't okay to solicit help here, please
> let me know).
>
> Alice Allen
> dcaallen(a)pacifier.com
>
> -------
> USGenWeb Project County Coordinator for the following:
>
> Marshall Co. KS http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/marshall/
> Geauga Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgeauga/geauga.html
> Seneca Co. OH http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohseneca/seneca.html
> Clark Co. WA http://www.rootsweb.com/~waclark/clark.htm
>
> List owner for OHSENECA-L, OHGEAUGA-L & WACLARK-L
>
>
>
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Don - I haven't heard that. Sounds like disinformation. Rootsweb, as most
of us know it, is a registered Mom & Pop for-profit business of Leverich and
Isaacson. There was an attempt to incorporate not-for-profit (presumambly
the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative) but the application was denied
(not unusual so don't read anything into it) for more complete information.
I haven't heard if a new application has been made at this point.
However, Rootsweb, Inc., a FOR-profit company, -was- registered with Dr
Leverich's college roomate Bob Tillman as CEO. There is nothing illegal or
underhanded about all of this. But a FOR-PROFIT company -must- adhere to
standard business practices that will maintain the business, pay for staff
and capital investments, etc.
My concern is not that Rootsweb is now a business and selling advertizing
space. My concern is that what happened in the past (agreements and
understandings) are being re-defined without our input.
At 16:13 6/24/1999 EDT, you wrote:
>Wally,
>
>Some time ago Rootsweb put out a notice the Rootsweb, Inc. is an interloper,
>and not associated with Rootsweb. Is my memory correct? If not, what is the
>evidence that the organizations are related?
>
>Don Kear
>Van Wert Ohio County Coordinator,
>www.rootsweb.com/~ohvanwer/index.html
>-------------------------------------------
>Clinton Ohio County Coordinator,
>www.rootsweb.com/~ohclinto/index.html
>-------------------------------------------
>Kear/Tope Family,
>http://members.aol.com/dlkgen/tope/
>-------------------------------------------
>Rootsweb Sponsor & OHGenWeb Reunion Coordinator
>
>
>==== OHGEN Mailing List ====
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>This list is for the discussion of topics related to the OHGenWeb project
>by OHGenWeb Coordinators and Assistant Coordinators.
>OHGenWeb Project: http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/index.html
>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
>
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wally(a)calweb.com
Wally wrote:
>Most of us now 'seed' our work with deliberate
> errors so we can PROVE that someone copied from our
>copyrighted work instead
> of working from the originals.
Dern Wally! Wish I would have thought of that instead of
telling folks it was my poor typing skills <grin>
Jim McCluer
Wally,
Some time ago Rootsweb put out a notice the Rootsweb, Inc. is an interloper,
and not associated with Rootsweb. Is my memory correct? If not, what is the
evidence that the organizations are related?
Don Kear
Van Wert Ohio County Coordinator,
www.rootsweb.com/~ohvanwer/index.html
- -----------------------------------------
Clinton Ohio County Coordinator,
www.rootsweb.com/~ohclinto/index.html
- -----------------------------------------
Kear/Tope Family,
http://members.aol.com/dlkgen/tope/
- -----------------------------------------
Rootsweb Sponsor & OHGenWeb Reunion Coordinator
John, et al,
True the actual public data cannot be copyrighted, but the format in which
the data appears is copyrighted. My problem is that I was told I could only
use the data only as long as I ran the site. It's a matter of "trust." I
had to beg for some of the info. I would hate to see the data disappear
after working so hard to get permission to use it. Because of my work
schedule I don't have time to do personal research at the courthouse like I
would like to do.
No I am not giving up the site, and no I am not deleting data. I have been
with the project since about 2 months after the project came into being. I
have about 12 megs on my site. The site was in existence for about 2 years
prior to getting onto GenWeb.
I did not see the original messages come across in my e-mail. Somehow I
missed them. I only caught the tail end of things....however Maggie was
kind enough to brief me on the situation and now I understand that things
still have to be voted on. So instead of boiling I down to a slow simmer
now! I guess its just a wait and see mode for now.
Thanks for all the replies,
Cathy
Williams Co., OHGenWeb
-----Original Message-----
From: John Bush <john_bush(a)hotmail.com>
To: OHGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <OHGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [OHGEN-L] Proposed USGW Bylaws Amendments
>Cathy Cooley wrote:
>>Aside from all of that, probably 98 per cent of the info on my site is
used
>>with written permission and is already copyrighted.
>Actually, the vast majority of genealogical information is fact, which
>cannot be copyrighted. Just because someone claims ownership doesn't >mean
they actually own it. Did I miss something though? I thought the
>different amendments would be put up to a vote and decided then. Why >get
too upset before anything actually is done?
>
>
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>Allen Richmond, sciototrails(a)usa.net, OHGenWeb State Coordinator
>Judy Kelble, jkelble(a)accnorwalk.com, OHGenWeb Assistant State Coordinator
>
At 18:34 6/23/1999 +0000, John wrote:
>Actually, the vast majority of genealogical information is fact, which
>cannot be copyrighted.
Case law now on the books DOES support copyrights of society publications
because they are compilations of public domain facts. If I transcribe
something from the original documents, -I- OWN ALL RIGHTS to -that-
transcription (and I may assign those rights to my society). I don't own
the individual pieces, but I own the format, indexing, additions, and even
the transcription errors. Most of us now 'seed' our work with deliberate
errors so we can PROVE that someone copied from our copyrighted work instead
of working from the originals.
You are correct there is no law that prevents someone else from doing
-another- transcription from the original documents, but when my local
Society says those of us on-line may not use their copyrighted works for
transcriptions to web pages, I honor that and don't permit that data to be
posted at my site. A transcriber must prove to my satisfaction that they
made an independent transcription from the originals. Most don't wish to do
that because they are quite content to use the Society's publications. Why
bother re-doing what they can find in all the local libraries?
>Did I miss something though? I thought the
>different amendments would be put up to a vote and decided then. Why
>get too upset before anything actually is done?
It's already BEEN done. Timing is everything. It is no accident that
Rootsweb pulled all of this just now. Peoples' lives are somewhat disrupted
by vacations, weddings, graduations, etc. And this
30-days-prior-to-the-election clause of the USGenWeb ByLaws applies:
Section 3. The proposed amendment, with the sponsor's name and date of
posting, shall remain posted for a period of at least thirty (30) days prior
to the annual voting period of July 1-July 31. Any proposed amendment shall
require a minimum of five (5) states as co-sponsors to command that it be
placed on the ballot. State projects wishing to co-sponsor the amendment
shall notify the Advisory Board and make an announcement on the USGenWeb-All
Mailing List.
Unless, as it is said elsewhere in the ByLaws, the Advisory Board declares
the amendments to be 'urgent business' (not likely since the Board seems to
support Rootsweb), these amendments were NOT posted for the prior 30 days
required for -this- election. They couldn't have been. The amendments were
in response to something that Rootsweb issued 9 June 1999. There was never
any intention to permit USGW to respond in any way. The soonest any
response could be put to a national vote is July 2000. By then, the issues
being raised will be moot. The hostile takeover is already a done-deal. We
are now tilting at windmills. There are moral issues involved, but this is
business and we are all supposed to agree that morality must never fetter
commerce!
USGW is now only a satellite of Rootsweb. Rootsweb, Inc. is a for-profit
business. If individual CCs don't like that, they must decide for
themselves whether to participate in the Project or not. Whether the
Project even survives (looks to me as if that will be in name only) depends
entirely on whether USGW -wants- to do ALL work at Rootsweb. If they don't,
Rootsweb will do it anyway. They no longer need USGW to further their
commercial agenda. None of us CCs matter at all except as a free pool of
labor and possible dollars as sponsors/donors. But the so-called 'tools'
Rootsweb says we may or may not use (completely our choice) are mostly CGI
applications that require little manual intervention so Rootsweb can get on
just fine without ANY of us.
Is the USGW project commercially valuable? You bet it is. However,
Rootsweb now "owns" the idea (county clusters) and much of the data
(archives) collected in the name of USGW.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
wally(a)calweb.com
>
>
> At 04:52 PM 06/21/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> > Rootsweb had changed my password, and was resubbing everyone to the
> >old list. I e-mailed Rootsweb about this, asking them what was going on, I
> >have yet to receive a response. After I e-mailed them, Vickie Lindsay sent
> >an e-mail to the rootsweb kentuckiana list saying the following:
> >
> >"Most of you are probably already aware that Dee Floyd Pavey has decided
> >that she no longer wishes to maintain this list. However, RootsWeb is
> >happy to continue hosting the list! "
>
> Please, everyone who "trust" Rottsweb and believe they are not naive or
> have their own data on rootsweb, read over Dee Pavey's letter not once but
> twice or three times.
>
> Let's only hope something will sink in. Remember, it's actions not words that
> you should believe.
>
> Scott Williams
Scott R. Williams 845N, 1200 E Rd. Melvin, IL 60952
------- ph 217.784.8844 mailto:photo@soltec.com ----------
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