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My family settled in 1880 at Tompkins Ave. Staten
Island. Can anyone tell me what Catholic church
would have been close to that area and what
schools would have been nearby?
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<< They don't mention any names...could you email the seller and see who is mentioned? >>
I could read the signatures on one of them...the one at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1116546579 was clearly signed by J. B. Hillyer and Henry Decker; the other was illegible. Also, as you mentioned, there would be other names mentioned.
Betty, thanks for pointing them out!
They don't mention any names...could you email the seller and see who is mentioned?
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From: "Bette Sohm" <bgsohm(a)netzero.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:36:59 -0500
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Hi...A NJ census just dropped into my lap. The SI names certainly caught my eye! My line even married into Aaron Burr's! But that's another story...
I can't identify these folks...and it's driving me nuts...anyone?
BURLINGTON CO., NJ 12 August 1860, PO Burlington, Springfield Twp. p. 192
192 9 1452 1462 BURR John H. 38 m w farmer NJ
192 10 1452 1462 BURR Rebecca 33 f w NJ
192 11 1452 1462 BURR Barzilla F. 11 m w NJ
192 12 1452 1462 BURR William 9 m w NJ
192 13 1452 1462 BURR John F. 8 m w NJ
192 14 1452 1462 BURR Marriba 5 f w NJ
192 15 1452 1462 BURR Mary 3 f w NJ
192 16 1452 1462 HUTCHINSON Anna W. 20 f w domestic NJ
192 17 1452 1462 LUCAS Wm. 19 m w farm work NJ
192 18 1452 1462 BRITIAN Esther 15 f w NJ
192 19 1452 1462 STILWELL Chas. 13 m w NJ
192 20 1452 1462 BRITIAN Nathaniel 62 m w farm labor NJ
In the 1900 Census in ED610 on page 17B there is a Caroline Ottini from Switzerland. She was in Rosebank not South Beach. She was a widow age 45. She was living on Tompkins Ave. With her were Rose 17, Claudine 13, Elizabeth 12, Emelia 10, James 7 and Joseph 3. Also with her is Cipein (?) Donella 76 and Katherine 66. They are shown as father and mother. Caroline immigrated in 1880. Her children were born in NY. The Donella's immigrated in 1896.
Thank you for the reply. I just received it Sunday nite at 11PM.
I am glad to know what Victory Blvd was called, as I couldn't find ii in
the ED descriptions.
Quinlan ave, Forest, Jewett, and Bement were all the same in 1920.
Although Quinlan now is on the other side of the SI expressway as well.
It was only a 2 block street that deadended at the woods when I was a
kid. My family mostly all left the island in the 50, 60 and 70's. So
the streets I look for are old ones.
Thanks again for the reply.
I subscribe to the census images on ancestry.com. There is as yet no index for 1920. What I do is use a SI map. You can use a Yahoo or other internet map just as well. Each census enumerator was given a piece of the map to walk up and down from house to house finding out who lived there. If you subscribe to ancestry.com, you can look at the enumeration descriptions. It tells you the streets that were the boundaries, kind of like a square or rectangle, to the ED. I pencil them out. Look for the street you want and see if any of the boundary descriptions are around it. Remember that street names change. Looking at the map today, the only major street that I can see that changed in that area is Victory Blvd. It was Richmond Turnpike in 1920. In addition, that area has been built up a lot since 1920, so a lot of those streets didn't exist in 1920. This method has worked for me, but it is tedious. Good luck.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Business Records
> In a message dated 2/22/01 7:00:47 AM, you wrote:
> >Family lore has it that my great-grandfather owned/operated an oyster bar
> >the vicinity of the Staten Island Ferry (not sure which side), around
> Since you don't know which side to look on, you ought to look on both.
> is on microfilm a 1903 Staten Island directory. I have accessed it at the
> Public Library and presumably you can too --- either at a Family History
> Center or on interlibrary loan.
> You ought also to be looking at the 1910 census which asked for occupation
> and where it was conducted, although people answered generally rather than
> specifically, such as "oyster stand" rather than an address, but you might
> able to glean some clues.
> Good luck.
> Holly Tooker
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> My ancestor Jacobus DEGARMO lived at Port Richmond, Staten Island, New
> where all eight of his children were born between 1715 thru 1734. Does
> anyone have an idea if records this old still exist, and if so where they
> may be held? Thanks for any and all help.
No, there are no civil records. However we do have a few church records and
Bible records...the best "one-stop shop" is the family history library. We
have a "catalog" of SI holdings at
Pay special attention to church records, and to the WPA records called
"Index and genealogical data cards" under vital records.
I would like to find 2 families on the 1920 SI census. John Strachan -
possibly on Bement Ave (Soundex S362) and Richard Julian possibly on
Jewett Ave. (Soundex J450).
Would sks be able to either look these up for me or tell me the ED
I am enjoying this list very much, was born on SI but realize I know
I love a success story, especially if I am in the middle of it, and I am
pleased to pass along the details of this one!
Don Post has been researching his mother's family, DECKERs of Staten
Island (my special interest for those who didn't know) for decades, he tells
me. All he knew about his particular brick wall was that Raymond DECKER
married Mary McKEEVER sometime before the birth of their first child in 1901
and he worked for the SI RR where he suffered a fatal accident, dying
tragically young. That's what he told me months ago and I noted it all down
and kept a sharp eye for Raymond.
Then, you may recall, last year I went through the NY TRIBUNE on
microfilm looking up any DECKER references and I found in August 1900 an
article about three SI Rapid Transit Railroad employees, Mamie McKEEVER who
ditched her beau in order to marry George DECKER in NJ.
I pointed out to Don that "Mamie" is a nickname for Mary and this story
fit all his facts except for the name George. Don had a brother named George,
so we were encouraged to think that maybe these were his ancestors.
More recently I found marriage records which confirmed that Mary
McKEEVER's husband was indeed George DECKER. So I urged Don to pursue the NJ
marriage certificate since we had an approximate date from the TRIBUNE
The marriage certificate was found and it gave George's middle name:
Crittenden and that was all I needed to find him in my notes. I had a George
Crittenden DECKER who had married in 1891 a different Mary, so this was a
second marriage! And I was able to place George C Decker into a larger family
constellation, that of Bornt/Barnet DECKER and Hannah CANNON, taking him back
4 generations to the 1760s! And what was really amazing, I happen to have the
maiden names of all the wives in this family group.
It is enormously gratifying to me to be able to do this, to put my hours
and hours of research to good use. I have had a few successes like this so
far and I wish to have many more. Don is very lucky that Mamie McKEEVER's
elopement with George DECKER rated a story in a newspaper because that was
the lucky clue that made the solution possible. Keep in mind that you never
know where that clue is, and so it pays to be creative in your searching!
Take heart, seekers!
In a message dated 2/22/01 7:00:47 AM, you wrote:
>Family lore has it that my great-grandfather owned/operated an oyster bar in
>the vicinity of the Staten Island Ferry (not sure which side), around
Since you don't know which side to look on, you ought to look on both. There
is on microfilm a 1903 Staten Island directory. I have accessed it at the NY
Public Library and presumably you can too --- either at a Family History
Center or on interlibrary loan.
You ought also to be looking at the 1910 census which asked for occupation
and where it was conducted, although people answered generally rather than
specifically, such as "oyster stand" rather than an address, but you might be
able to glean some clues.
Family lore has it that my great-grandfather owned/operated an oyster bar in
the vicinity of the Staten Island Ferry (not sure which side), around
1900-1920. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can verify this and/or
find any records that may have been left behind? I have no idea of what the
name of the establishment might have been.
Thanks in advance,
Is anyone able to tell me which newspapers would have obits for 1942 in
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