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Hmm Lima could be Lime, Jefferson Co up by Sackett's Harbor which could make sense if
they went up there along with fisher, horton, et al then the War of 1812-14 hit and they
got their families the heck out of there, headed inland over to where Joe Smith was
conning folks with rocks in his hat, the peepstone thing.
Do you think John and Mangle Rall were kin? Mangle may suggest ancestry from MA before the
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