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I've wondered the same. My own (known) Scottish ancestry in Delaware
County, Telford, originated in Selkirkshire, not far from Roxburyshire. I
suspect, but have no proof that some of the other families in my ancestry
were also Scottish in origin.
At 09:59 PM 30/09/2004 -0500, Denise & Rob Kurkowski wrote:
>I have several ancestry connections through Delaware County, New York
>from both Dumfriesshire and Roxburyshire,Scotland.
>I'm wondering if there is any one who may have historical knowledge of why
>Delaware County, New York was settlement for so many Scottish immigrants?
>JACKSON, OLIVER, HART, ARCHIBALD
Family site, revamped August 2004 - pictures of grand-twins, Ann's new
viola and garden (including Hostas) -
Emmanubells Handbell Choir - www.magma.ca/~fredrkng/bells.html
Canadian Viola Society web site - www.viola.ca
Gloucester Emergency Food Cupboard - www.gefc.ca
I have several ancestry connections through Delaware County, New York
from both Dumfriesshire and Roxburyshire,Scotland.
I'm wondering if there is any one who may have historical knowledge of why
Delaware County, New York was settlement for so many Scottish immigrants?
JACKSON, OLIVER, HART, ARCHIBALD
You seem to know a bit about NY Roses. Know of an Isaac who likely fought in
I ask because my ancestor's brother Caleb Hill of Wallkill Ulster/Orange (born
1756 Dutchess Co) married Rebecca Rose and there is an assortment of Isaac Rose
Hills in that line. Sounds like a Clue to me. Oh - also a son of Caleb and
Rebecca, Philander Hill, married Bathea Rose.
Kaye in Texas
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:56:01 -0400
> From: "evelyn" <thegrove131(a)catskill.net>
> Subject: Kansas Roses
> Our first Rose is John bc 1771 who I believe was born in eastern New
> York, possibly the Oblong area when NY and Ct and Mass were still arguing
> over who owned it. John Rose first shows up in the town of Colchester after
> he married Rhoda Crippen c1797. John's youngest daughter Christina said both
> her parents were born in New England (1880 Census).
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Actually I have 2 Roses who went to Kansas c1870,
Joseph B. Rose b. 1827 t/o Rockland, Sullivan County and his wife Sophie Borden;
and Harriet Rose Crippen, wife of John Crippen, niece of Joseph Rose, and d/o Lawrence Rose and Lucy Moody.
Our first Rose is John bc 1771 who I believe was born in eastern New York, possibly the Oblong area when NY and Ct and Mass were still arguing over who owned it. John Rose first shows up in the town of Colchester after he married Rhoda Crippen c1797. John's youngest daughter Christina said both her parents were born in New England (1880 Census).
I have been digging around for my Rose relatives again, this time in Kansas and happened to find this very interesting biography of Wallace B. Kelly from Delaware County.
Wallace B. Kelly - KS-Cyclopedia - 1912Transcribed from volume III, part 2 of
Kansas: a cyclopedia of state history, embracing events, institutions,
industries, counties, cities, towns, prominent persons, etc. ... / with a
supplementary volume devoted to selected personal history and reminiscence.
Standard Pub. Co. Chicago : 1912. 3 v. in 4. : front., ill., ports.; 28 cm.
Vols. I-II edited by Frank W. Blackmar. Transcribed December 2002 by Carolyn
Ward. This volume is identified at the Kansas State Historical Society as
microfilm LM195. It is a two-part volume 3.
Wallace B. Kelly, M. D., one of the oldest and most highly respected physicians
of Independence, Kan., who has practiced there for over a quarter of a century,
is descended from fine old English and Irish stock. He was born in Delaware
county, New York, on a farm near the headwaters of the Delaware river, March 10,
1845. His great-great-grandfather, David Kelly, was born in Ireland, but came to
America before the Revolutionary war and located in the Massachusetts colony,
where he became a member of the company of Minute Men and served against England
during the war for American freedom and justice, which separated the colonies
from the mother country. He established the first American branch of the family
in the United States. For some years David Kelly lived in Massachusetts, then
removed to Putnam county, New York, and later his son, David Kelly, the
great-grandfather of Wallace B., moved to Delaware county, where the family has
lived for generations on the homestead hewed from the virgin forest. Hiram
Kelly, grandfather of Wallace B., was born while the family were living in
Putnam county and after attaining to his majority he married Sarah Borden and
their son John O. was born and reared on the farm in Delaware county. He married
Lucy A. Hull, of Welsh and English descent, whose people settled in Connecticut
soon after coming to America, but later moved to Delaware county, New York. She
was born in Connecticut. Dr. Kelly's parents spent their lives in Delaware
county, New York, where the father was a farmer and also engaged in business as
a miller, owning and operating woolen and flour mills on the Delaware river.
They had nine children: Elijah, Wallace B., Hiram, Sarah, David, Norman, Nettie,
Juda and George, only five of whom are now living. Wallace B. Kelly was reared
on the old homestead and attended the district schools. His father wished the
boy to have every advantage and as soon as he finished the country school sent
him to Hudson Academy at Claverack, N. Y. For a short time he taught in the
district schools and then entered Northwestern University, but broke down in
health his first year and was obliged to leave college. Soon after that he
determined to devote his life to the study of medicine, and as a preliminary
step began to study under Dr. Keator of Roxbury, N. Y. Subsequently he was with
Dr. George W. Crosly of Atlantic City, N. J., and spent seven years "riding"
with these physicians. He then entered the New York Homeopathic Medical College,
New York City, graduating with the class of 1881. In the spring of that year he
located at Indianola, Iowa, but practiced there only four years before he
located in Independence, where he has since continued to reside. For twenty-five
years he has been an active physician in Kansas and enjoys a large and lucrative
practice. He gained the confidence of the people soon after locating in the city
and is one of the most highly respected and loved physicians in Montgomery
county. In politics he is a Republican and he has been a Master Mason for over
In 1876 he was married at Independence, Iowa, to Elizabeth,
daughter of Asa B. and Sarah (Northrup) Worden, both of whom were born in
Delaware county, New York. Mrs. Kelly's paternal and maternal grandfathers,
Amariah Worden and Joshua Northrup, were born of English parents. Mrs. Kelly was
born in Delaware county, New York, and accompanied her family, soon after the
close of the Civil war, to Iowa, where she lived until her marriage. Four
children have been born to Dr. Wallace B. and Elizabeth Kelly, and they adopted
a foster son, Harry, to whom they have been the kindest and most loving parents.
Their children are Lucile, wife of E. E. Woods of Claremore, Okla.; Aletha, a
graduate of Baker University, now teacher of German and English in the Caney
High School at Caney, Kan; Para, deceased, and Ruby, an undergraduate of Baker
University, and now a teacher at Collinsville, Okla. The family are all members
of the Methodist church.
Pages 1248-1249 from volume III, part 2 of Kansas: a cyclopedia of state
history, embracing events, institutions, industries, counties, cities, towns,
prominent persons, etc. ... / with a supplementary volume devoted to selected
personal history and reminiscence. Standard Pub. Co. Chicago : 1912. 3 v. in 4.
: front., ill., ports.; 28 cm. Vols. I-II edited by Frank W. Blackmar.
Transcribed December 2002 by Carolyn Ward. This volume is identified at the
Kansas State Historical Society as microfilm LM195. It is a two-part volume 3.
Hi List. I am in search of an article that appeared in the Delaware County
Farm and Home News, December 1983 in which my great grandfather, Jacob Van
Benschoten, is mentioned. Would anyone have any idea as to how I would go
about getting a copy of this article? Thanks for any help. Marge
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Please note that for the next three weeks, I will be consumed by family
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will resume normal activity with the site and the mail. J.
Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site
In the Sidney book, "Sidney, Then and Now, 1772,- 1972" by by K.V. Campbell,
the author talks about the strike at the silk mill and how it affected the
town but little on the operations. On page 78 ther is a small picture of
the J. H. Clark silk mill about 1906, which he says later was the Keyser
Silk Mill. Earlier he says the Clark mill was established in 1893 near the
Congregational Church. Also related was an open house, and that employees
make silk gloves, mitts and etc.
He also mentions that the a paper mill run by Palmer and Johnston was
"defunct" and that a Mr. Allen bought it and turned it into an electric
plant about 1900. If someone could tell me about these previous owners,
especially Palmer it would be appreciated.
"With empathy for those who suffered losses near the Delaware River"
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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:39 PM
Subject: [NYDELAWA-L] Sidney Silk Mill and Firemen of WW1 era..............
> Would appreciate Town of Sidney info on WW1 period to 1920, about the
> Silk Mill factory and the (vol. fire?) company at the same time. I have
> a picture of my Grandfather with other firemen , in full uniform, taken
> in that period in front of the firehouse. Also have some grade school
> pictures, yet to be scanned, taken at that time. Appreciate any help you
> may give........
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Have collected from too far back to remember where or when but the
information on John L. Langridge
b: 19 Oct., 1829, Wife: Betsy A. Schofield, b: 13 April 1837. This
family record was written by John L . Langridge on the 29th day of Nov.
1872, 10 AM.
Many, many names appear in the New York City area and Mr. Charles
Jacobi of Sidney, NY,
b: 25 July 1873, d: 18 -?- 1938.
George H. Jacobi b: 28 Mar.1900, D: 31 Aug 1900.
Will be glad to send these papers, 18 pages in all, 10 in order, 8
extra's with information, to anybody that has these names and are
working on them.
Let me know and I will send them out..
Paul S. Cerquoz, 1222 Helliwell St. N.W., Palm Bay, Fl. 32907-7979
Interesting find in the 1840 US census, Stamford, Delaware Co., N.Y.
Hachediah(hard to read) Griffeni males in household:
I'm not sure of the age groups....
Anyone know about this Griffeni?...perhaps it became Griffin...
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I am researching the following families for my tree, hoping others also share
some of the same interests.
Robert TERNENT (b. 1850 Belford, NBL - d. 1936 Walton,NY) married: Cecilia
HOUSTON (b. 1856 Belford, NBL - d.1940 Scotia, New York) - buried in the Walton
Peter MCLAREN (b. 1822 - d. 1902 Hamden, New York) married: Elizabeth TERNENT
(b. 1831/1833 - d. 1892 Hamden, New York)
Sheldon WAKEMAN (b. 1900 - d. 1990 Walton, New York) married: Emma Sarah
HOUSTON (b. 1901 Morpeth, NBL - d.? probably in Walton, New York)
Isabella MCAUSLAN -all I have is her will, admitted to probate June, 1924.
Who was her husband? Did they have children?
Peter HOUSTON (b. 1839 Scotland - d. ?) was her brother. He was a dairy
farmer in Hamden, and his children were John and Emma
Jennie MCFARLAND/McFarlane/Macfarland? (1888 Walton, New York - 1966) -
hopefully, someone will tell me which is the correct spelling, married: Harold LAMB
(b. 1884 County Durham - d. 1937 Pennsylvania)
Looking for more info on them.
Syracuse, New York
I am responding to a number of inquiries about Griffins.
Here is what I have:
John Griffin, born ? Kortright, NY
Married to Elizabeth Archer, born 1809, Derby, England. died 1884
They are my gggrandparents
Her parents were Isaac & Nancy Archer.
Mary E. Griffin, b. 1834
Anna Griffin, b. 9/14/1841 Married George Oakley Harder. They are my ggrandparnets. My Grand mother was Jessie Bell Harder.
John Jay Griffin, b. 1844
Lydia A. Griffin, b. 1845
Does any one know where I can buy a copy of the Book of Ancestors and Descendants of Douglas and Christina Anderson Hall? ABBR Many Leaves in our Tree. Publication Treadwell 1980
researching: DANA, HALL, STEWART
Betty........thanks for your answer to my inquiry about the Sidney Silk Mill, but I have still to hear about the Fire Dept. The Sidney 1920 census listed my grandfather, J.E. VanVolkenburg, as a "dyer", my aunt as a "machine operator" at the Mill. My aunt and mother attended Sidney grammer and high school,so I know the family lived there for some time. WhatI am now trying to find out...was the Fire Dept volunteer or a permanent position.
My great grandmother Hattie Crumb Nichols also worked at the Silk Factory at
that time but that's all I have on it. I'd also be interested in anything we
Greetings to all,
The New Kingston Historical Survey is finished, we had a wonderful day in New Kingston to unveil the project.
We have found a way to copy the huge volume to a more manageable and mailable size. The cost is $45.00, this covers the cost of the printing and the shipping. If any one is interested in having a copy please send a check to:
New Kingston Valley Association
New Kingston, New York 12459
"Now available...spiral bound copies of the New Kingston Valley Comprehensive Resources Survey......a 265 page volume which details the agricultural and social
development from the time the valley was wilderness. There is also a wonderful housing resource in the volume. This covers New Kingston from the time the first settlers moved in.
Historian, Town of Middletown-Delaware County
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Would appreciate Town of Sidney info on WW1 period to 1920, about the
Silk Mill factory and the (vol. fire?) company at the same time. I have
a picture of my Grandfather with other firemen , in full uniform, taken
in that period in front of the firehouse. Also have some grade school
pictures, yet to be scanned, taken at that time. Appreciate any help you
Mysterious John & Louise Watson
I think I have been able to get a lead on my John Watson of Brooklyn. I believe his father was John Watson who was baptized in 1844 at the Mariners church in Brooklyn. His parents were John Watson and Malenia Eliza. John Watson married Jane McVee born 1845 in Scotland. They had three sons William 1868, John 1869 and George 1871. I have been able to find some of Janes sisters and brothers. One sister married a Wallwork. I still cannot find my grandfather John Watson between 1889 and 1911. This is the time that he and Louise traveled to possibly Orange and Sullivan County eventually coming to Delhi. He is missing again from 1918 and when he died. I found that some of her family went to Centerville in Sullivan County to a hotel there owned by David Robinson. He advertised the Rose Cottage Farm in the Brooklyn Eagle paper.
I am hoping that someone may recognize the surnames of Jane Mc Vee Watson or her sister Elizabeth. Elizabeth married Thomas Henry Wallwork.
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Hello All ...
Announcements Page - Read details about the following Opening Reception
at DCHA - The Delaware County Historical Association will open a new
exhibit at 1pm on Saturday, September 11, 2004. Delaware County Through
the Eyes of Joseph Santora features the oil paintings of former Meridale
resident Joseph Santora.
Military Page - Scanned clippings from a WWII Scrapbook - submitted by
Cuyle Family. (there are 138 clippings that may take a couple minutes to
load as there are thumbnails for each to click on).
Queries have been updated, also the Comments section - all you amazing
volunteers check that out and see how much your efforts are appreciated!
There is a lot more in my 'put online' folder. Will get to it ASAP.
There are also a lot of messages to me asking many questions about
families and Delaware County - please remember, I really am not the
person to ask. All I know about Delaware County and its families is
posted on the website and through this list. Post any questions you have
to this LIST or put family question in query form and send to me for
posting in the query section of the website.
There are many on the LIST who have a great deal of knowledge about
Delaware County ... perhaps at the top of the list is Jeremiah Palmer
who dives right in and responds to many with some good solid
information. Thank you Jeremiah!
All for now. Have a great weekend. J.
Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site