I'm wondering if your Robert Borthwick may have been related to the
Bathrick family that resided on Livingston Manor from the 1750's. Since
Robert Livingston himself was a Scot and the Bathricks appeared on the
Manor apparantly out of nowhere (there was a Batherick in
Lexington/Concord MA area in the 1630's, but no evidence that they were
related) I'm thinking there may have been some sort of connection.
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ann Carson wrote:
Dear List Members
Hello from Sydney, Australia. I have just joined your list
in the hope that members may be help me with information or
advice regarding the early members of "my" BORTHWICK family.
It seems that our Robert BORTHWICK travelled to Virginia
from Scotland in 1818. Robert's uncle, or great-uncle was
Robert DINWIDDIE who had been the Royalist Governor of
Virginia. (Not confirmed but multiple reports to this
According to one report:
Robert Borthwick, born at Moffat, at the head of Annan
Water, in Dumfrieshire, in 1795, came to the United States
in 1818; married a descendant of the LIVINGSTONs, of
Livingston Manor, on the Hudson.
I don't know when this marriage took place and am hoping
that this is the right list to join as I've searched the
internet for Livingston Manor and find that it is a town in
Columbia county. Please let me know if I'm in the wrong
I would very much appreciate any help anyone can give me to
identify Robert's wife. (I've searched the IGI)
Sometime between 1818 and 1843, probably after 1840, Robert
BORTHWICK and his family moved to Philadelphia. I would
dearly love to know more about the family, and of course
whether there are any descendants in Philadelphia today. The
smallest bit of information and any advice at all will
be greatly appreciated. I would especially appreciate
information from any local records, directories or other
sources which might help me to identify Robert's wife and
other children. It is said that he had one son and two
Robert's son became Chief Engineer for the US Navy. The
following is all I have regarding that son:
"John L D Borthwick, Chief Engineer U.S. Navy, who is a
cousin of Lord Glenesk twice removed, and is allied to the
present Lord Borthwick. He served three months in the U.S.
Volunteer Army; was appointed from Pennsylvania into U.S.
Navy 8th Oct., 1861, as 3rd Asst. Engr.; 2nd Asst.-Engr.,
18th Dec., 1862; 1st Asst.-Engr. 30th June 1865; passed
Asst. Engr., 24th Feb., 1874; Chief Engr., 7th Sept., 1885;
retired with rank of Commander, 13th Oct., 1895, having
served 23� years sea duty and 8 years 1 month shore duty;
resides at Eric, Pa."
I would be grateful for any advice or infomration any list
members may have. I am willing to do any amount of
searching, letter-writing etc myself if I can discover what
steps I should take.
Ann Carson (Sydney, Australia)