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On a recent trip to Columbia County, I met with Rev. Mark Deeble at the
Church of St. John the Evangelist on Chittenden Road in Stockport, who
showed me their collection of 19th century books. Back at that time, the
church functioned as a public library for its members and they have hundreds
of old books all covered in brown wrapping paper. They are stored in
cupboards in the balcony at the back of the church. According to Mark, some
of the books have been cataloged, but many have not. If you know of anyone
who would be interested in cataloging or helping the church to properly
preserve these books, please have them contact Rev. Mark Deeble 518-828-3925
I have a note in my Waldo file that "In 1776 Richard MOrris settled on the
Waldo farm, located 2 miles north of Claverack".Could anyone give me
information on this Waldo family? I have a dead end at Nathaniel Waldo who
was in Hudson in 1812 when a daughter was born and in Claverack in 1829
when she was married there. Nathaniel was a school teacher and his wife was
Hannah Lee. They also had another daughter who married a Schramm.
If anyone on the list has any information on the above, I would appreciate
hearing from you. My email address is:firstname.lastname@example.org
It's about time for me to thank Cliff Lamere publicly for all the work he
has done on his wonderful pages, the latest being researchers who will work
these areas for a fee.
His web site is a treasure trove of information.To name just one example, I
checked out his list of cemeteries and people buried in Columbia County
from the Rickard list, found a Cyrus Snyder. With Cliff's hints on how to
use the list, find the cemetery listing, and then, for a small fee, I got a
copy of the record from the Columbia County Historical Society, and found
it was not my Cyrus. So I'm still looking for him, but I know he's not the
one buried in West Copake.
Thank you, Cliff!!
Thanks for the info on why the films are so bad. What a tale! I was just
looking at Pittsfield MA film for my uncles, whom I'd found on Soundex. I
had the page and ED numbers, but the right hand side of the page (a wide
one) was so blurry or not even on the film, that I had to stand up (my neck
got cramped up reading sideways!) so I could read the street names, and
that's how I found them!
But someone else told me she'd bought census films from
<http://www.censusmicrofilm.com/> and they are very satisfactory. I went to
their site, found they charge $14.95 per roll, and I think if I can locate
a microfilm reader (my library doesn't have one!) that's what I'm going to
do, especially with films I research again and again.
And maybe I'll be able to get back East (to visit family) and to
Cooperstown in September. Wish I could spend 2 weeks or more in NY, since I
need to research Columbia, Dutchess, Otsego, Oneida and Manhattan! Well,
I'll get as much as I can this way.
BTW, I've found the 1880 Census CDs (which, despite some omissions have a
great search engine) and the Heritage Quest (called Family Quest) 1870
Index very helpful in trying to place people, locate grown children, etc.
For example: No proof yet, but in my Robinson family (Otsego), the youngest
brother died in the Civil War, leaving wife and 2 children. Using one
child's name, I found him (right age, called stepson), the wife (right
first name, middle initial, & age) re-married, still in Otsego, with a
child from second marriage (which sort of places the marriage). No proof,
but certainly an area to investigate
On my website are 60,000 names of people buried in Columbia Co. They came from a lot of books at the Columbia Co. Historical Society. In Vital Records-Deaths, look for the link to the Master Burial Index. The link after that one will tell you how to order photocopies from the books.
Fitch Stephen Bk 2:74
Fitch Stephen Bk 28:11
Some of the records were published more than once. By looking at the second link, you can tell the location of the cemetery and tell whether these are duplicates. By the way, I have noticed that, for various reasons, some of these transcriptions disagree with other transcriptions of the same stone. For the difference in price between ordering one or two, I'd order both.
> I will be visiting New York this summer and hope to find the cemetery that my
> ancestor is buried at in Columbia County. Are there cemetery inscription
> books available for cemeteries in Chatham? If anyone has one, I'd greatly
> appreciate a look up for Stephen Fitch who died there March 1810. He was
> married to Sarah Smith. Also, are there other Fitches listed?
> Thank you for any help!
I am seraching for the parents of John J. Dobbs. Born 10-03-1821, in
Lebanon, Columbia County, New York. He died April 13, 1912, in Pine Run,
Michigan. He was married twice to sisters, 1) Louise Beeman and 2) Achsah
I will be visiting New York this summer and hope to find the cemetery that my
ancestor is buried at in Columbia County. Are there cemetery inscription
books available for cemeteries in Chatham? If anyone has one, I'd greatly
appreciate a look up for Stephen Fitch who died there March 1810. He was
married to Sarah Smith. Also, are there other Fitches listed?
Thank you for any help!
I have prepared a webpage listing 7 researchers who will work for a fee in Albany and surrounding counties, such as Columbia, Rensselaer, Greene and Schenectady. I have also included Berkshire Co., Mass. because of its National Archives which has information not available elsewhere in the area. Some people will do research outside of the five county area. Those counties have also been listed. Some people will photograph things like gravestones or historic buildings for you. Most of them will go directly to county, city, town and village offices to get vital records.
I have 5½ screens of information on places where research can be performed, and what resources each place has. Most of it came from my Guide to Albany Area Genealogical Resources, although it is much revised. Following the list of venues is a list of researchers. After each researcher's name is a list of facilities in each county which they will visit for you.
By listing only the places at which they do research, I have tried to make sure that none of them has an advantage over any other in getting requests for business. Most of them gave me advertising-type statements which I did not use. Three have websites which I don't list. One has a webpage written about them. One wrote two books plus journal articles. One does research daily, is very good at it, and has none of these other things to attract your attention, yet should get equal attention from you.
Some do the research full time, and others do it part time. Most have a backlog of work to be done. If I had to choose one to do my research for me, I would have a very difficult time.
Good luck finding those ancestors.
Don't panic just yet. I've never worked in Columbia County as late as 1910,
but I have worked in 1810 and that has to be much harder! You thought
you'd spend 15 minutes at the FHC? LDS hired outside businesses to film
records all over the country. Yes, the lowest bidders got the job. They did
so much damage at the Surrogate's Office up in Cooperstown that it took the
staff and volunteers 10 years to get the papers back in order. Then the
films they took were bad and they had the nerve to ask to come back and do
If you want anything up in Cooperstown, you have to go in person or hire
someone to get it for you. Have you seen what FHC sends out as the
"complete" records of the Hudson City Cemetery? You need to get EVERY film
that may contain the records you are looking for and then go to Columbia
County and hunt for originals.
I have been trying to find the family of Maria (Polly) McIntosh (d. bef.
1796), who married Jonas Silbernagel (b. 1760, son of Conrad & Catharina) 21
Feb 1788 at St. Thomas Lutheran Ch. Churchtown. They had 4 ch. baptized at
Churchtown: Johannes b. 1789; Maria b. 1790; Jonas b. 1792; Catharine b.
1795. The only other clue I have is that an Elisabeth MacKentesch sponsored
Johannes in 1789 (with Johannes Schneider).
Anything at all about McIntosh in the Hudson Valley before 1800 would be
Thanks to all who posted answers to my query about Canaan, NY history. Several asked for more detail, so here they are as we know them. Sorry for the length but its kind of involved.
I am seeking information on;
b. ca1760 in New Canaan (no state given).
d. ca 1816 NY
m. 24 Aug 1787 Abigail Littlefield dau of Peter and Esther (Banks) Littlefield at Wells, York Co., ME.
Initially we were confused by the reference to New Canaan. A DAR application list his birthplace as New Canaan, CT which wasn't formed until 1801. According to the Directory of Massachusetts Place Names, Current and Obsolete compiled by Charlotte Pease Davis, 1987, there was a New Canaan, MA that did become Canaan, NY in 1788. Also in the booklet entitled The Western Boundary of Massachusetts: A Study of Indian and Colonial History by Franklin Leonard Pope, 1866 and reprinted by the Berkshire Family History Assn. in 1994, New Canaan is mentioned along with Nobletown and Spencertown as being affected by the 1767 boundary discussions (pg. 31). So, I guess, we have some justification in the assumption that New Canaan could indeed be the present Canaan, NY and George Darrow's early home.
We are in possession of copies of George Darrow's Revolutionary War records and his wife's Abigail's pension application from 1844 (granted). According to the war records and Massachusetts Soldiers and Sailors he enlisted in Capt. Stephen Pearl's company, Col. Benjamin Ruggles Woodbridge's (25th) regiment on 1 May 1775, and is listed as being from New Canaan (no other geographic reference given). He left the service with the rank of lieutenant. Both Pearl and Woodbridge are listed as being from Mass. in the Historical Register of Officers of the Continental Army during the War of the Revolution by F.B. Heitman, 1893. Along with Sgt. George Darrow, other enlistees from New Canaan were Lt. Abner Pease, Sgt. Joseph Mallison, Corp. Elisha Crippin, Israel Osburn, John Buck, Alexander Osburn, Benjamin Hall, Daniel Rowland, Elijah Leonard, Israel Phelps, John Dun (Dunn), Joseph Forbs, Israel Phelps, Jr., Joseph Lord, Micah Morse, William Matthews and Aaron Olmstead. Hopefully some !
of the names will be recognized as being from Canaan to help me place George Darrow there. We surmise from the pension application that George returned to the Albany area on business ca 1816 and was not heard from again by his family.
I have seen a reference to at least two Darrow families in the 1790 census from the Canaan, NY area, but I have lost the citation and I haven't had a chance to check the films.
Thanks again for the help.
Richard in Augusa, Maine
Several people have asked me about the time frame for the border dispute
that evolved between NY and MA. I know I have detailed info somewhere
but now I can't find it..perhaps Cliff has it. BUT I do have some
interesting info from "Wadhams Genealogy" by Harriet W. W. Stevens. And
I do apologize for some incorrect info I gave you yesterday, it was John
WADHAMS, not John MOTT who has his house moved. On page 43 I find the
following..."On 29 March 1769, John WADHAMS of New Lebanon, County of
Berkshire, Mass............From the History of Colombia County, New
York, we learn that "John WADHAMS was the first to settle in the town,
New Lebanon. He was led into the locality in the summer of
1762.........He was so pleased with the appearance of the new country
that he made it his home in 1762......" It was not long after this he
had his house moved into New York. Hope this helps. Margaret in NV
Kelly, Arthur C. M. Transcriber and Indexer, 'Remarkable Records of Rev.
Gideon Bostwick 1770-1793 Great Barrington, Massachusetts', (Kinship,
Rhinebeck, NY 1988).
Sorry, I should have looked this up before sending the previous marriage.
Arthur Kelly Transcriber
the years were 1770-1793
One source was useful to finding the marriage of Tabitha Ward and Hope
The Remarkable Records of Reverend Gideon Bostwick. 1720-92
Reverend Gideon Bostwick was a minister (probably called "circuit rider") out
of the St James Episcopal Church , Great Barrington MA. Because he travelled
on horseback and went into the "hinterlands" there are records of baptisms,
marriages and death records for CT, MA, NY and VT. Perhaps the St James
Episcopal Church still maintains records ; I think I have seen the book for
sale on the web for about 25.00. I do not own a copy or would do look-ups.
Hello Harry, Here are your JORDAN's:
Source: "Marriages in New Lebanon, New York, performed by Rev. Silas
Churchill, 1795-1851 and Ira Hand, 1832-1852" compiled by Elmer I
The following were marriages performed by Ira Hand, Justice of the
JORDAN, Juli Ann, m 29 Jun 1839, Ott T. SHAW, both Lee
JORDAN, Quincey A., m 31 May 1836, Catherine P. DARLING, both Lanesboro
Good Luck! Margaret in NV
I don't have all the facts right in front of me but I do know that the
New York-Massachusetts border was in dispute for a number of years. I
have found two sources, that relate the story of my ancestor John MOTT,
whose home was in the disputed territory. When it was settled he found
his house was a few rods inside of Massachusetts. He wasn't happy about
that, so he called his neighbors and had his house moved a few feet into
New York. That says something about the man, don't you think? I also am
aware that many of my family seemed to hop around from Berkshire Co.
Mass to Colombia Co. NY I have found that the Berkshire Family History
Assoc. is a marvelous resource for both areas. Margaret in NV
In regard to the marriages I have been posting it is important to
understand that the locations given are not only in New York. I have
found places in Massachusetts, Connecticut and Vermont listed in the
book. Hope that helps, Margaret in NV
Hi Marlene, Here are your BARKER's--
Source: "Marriages in New Lebanon performed by Rev, Silas Churchill,
1795-1851 and Ira Hand, Esq., Justice of the Peace, 1832-1852" compiled
by Elmer I. Shepard 1943
The following are marriages by Rev. Churchill
BARKER, ..........m 1? Sept 1802 Harriet WHITING
BARKER, Harriet m 1 Mar 1836 Mathew A. PATTERSON, both New Lebanon
BARKER, Salley, m 8 Sep 1797 Thomas LUSK
Marriage by Ira Hand-
BARKER, George W. Pittsfield, m 25 Oct 1832 Cordelia THAYER, Hinsdale
Margaret in NV