And all this junk that goes on year after year is the reason I do not bother
voting any more.
June
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patricia A. Scott" <legacy(a)comnett.net>
To: <NVGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: [NVGEN] Fw: [USGenWeb-SW] Redirection
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Lewis" <webmaster(a)cottonhills.com>
To: <USGENWEB-SW-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [USGenWeb-SW] Redirection
>I too request a vote of No. I think this is a very good first attempt, and
> is getting close, however too much control and too little options. I also
> agree with much of what Karen says below.
>
> Linda K Lewis
> CC Linn Co KSGenweb
> CC Riley Co KSGenweb
> Cemeteries @ Johnson Co KSGenweb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Mitchell [mailto:km1109@ghvalley.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:01 PM
> To: USGENWEB-SW-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: Re: [USGenWeb-SW] Redirection
>
> I have to agree with Betty. Please vote NO.
>
> I also resent the attitude that I'm not smart enough to decide something
> like this by myself. Not only that, but who are these "mediators"? Do
> they
> have legal training as mediators? What credentials do they have that
> would
> out-weigh the common sense of the members of this project? These are
> supposed to be volunteers of the project, that just happen to volunteer
> to
> be a mediator. What type of training do they have, or are they going to
> get,
>
> that they will have a more thorough understanding of all of this than the
> rest of us? Are their educational degrees going to supersede the ones
> they
> are attempting to "advise"?
>
> This is not about the GPC committee as individuals. This is about a
> procedure that is poorly written and quite insulting to every member of
> this
>
> project. Sorry guys, I think you need to take it back to the drawing
> board
> and re-word it to address us as adults and intelligent human beings.
>
> Respectfully,
> Karen Mitchell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Betty Brooks" <betbrooks(a)centurytel.net>
> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [USGenWeb-SW] Redirection
>
>
> Second Time NO based on this statement I just read:
>
> "This phrasing will do the same thing, and remove the responsibility of
> the
> "committee to insure
> **a person knows the ramifications of their decisions**
> while at the same time preserving the integrity of the process."
>
> If a person isn't smart enough to know results of their own decisions,
> first, they probably aren't a CC/LC. This is the height of egotism IMO.
> Personally, I totally resent this attitude of "we know best what is good
> for you"....the Committee should have no interest in the making of of
> this
> type decision much less any say so in it. . More said, the worse it
> sounds
> overall.
> Sorry, too many flips flops in answers overall.
> BB
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phyllis Rippee" <wchs(a)getgoin.net>
> To: <USGENWEB-SW-L(a)rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: [USGenWeb-SW] Redirection
>
>
>> Based on what has been discussed, I think I've got this synopsis
>> correct:
>>
>> It seems that what is presented is a set of procedures that establishes
>> a
>> committee with 99.9% totalitarian authority. It takes the entire
> grievance
>> process away from the AB....which has been indicated is what is wanted.
>>
>> Well, maybe not quite "entire" in that the AB will appoint the initial
>> members of the committee and then will be "allowed" to okay
replacement
>> members named by the GC. <somewhere I'm hearing faint echoes of charges
> of
>> a "core group" running the Project> And, the AB will be
"allowed" upon
>> appeal to review the decisions made by the GC but only to see if any
>> mistakes were made in following the rules.....which are to be
>> interpreted
>> only by the GC itself.
>>
>> And, if it turns out that the general membership, or any AB
>> representative
>> sees a need to modify a portion of the Procedures, they cannot do so as
> only
>> the GC can modify anything....including not only the procedures, but the
>> bylaws amendment itself......which makes the process required to be
> followed
>> on whatever level in the Project a grievance is being handled even if
>> not
> in
>> the actual hands of the GC for which the procedures are written.
>>
>> Furthermore, because of a bylaws change <if approved> in regard to who
>> may
>> or may not serve as a representative for an accuser or accusee, any
>> right
> to
>> file a grievance against the representative in regard to actions during
> the
>> GC's handling of the situation must be forfeited.
>> ________________
>>
>> So, as your SWSC CC Rep. please tell me how you wish me to cast a vote.
> I
>> will abide by what a majority of my constituents indicate they wish.
>>
>> Phyllis Rippee
>> SWSC CC. Rep. and Candidate
>>
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