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Notts FHS has had some pretty poor press on Nottsgen over the last weeks so
I thought I would redress the balance somewhat. As a direct result of the
Notts FHS I have recently had 2 pieces of success one minor but one
The minor was the revelation that my 3x great grandfather, Cornelius VARNEY,
was among the injured at the stampede which occured at the hanging of
The major was a real breakthrough! In the interest list was someone who was
researching KING, VARNEY and BOWN. Too great a coincidence to wait for a
letter (no e-mail address!) so I went to www.192.com and got the phone
number. The researcher turned out to be a long lost 1st cousin from a
branch which I knew existed but the family had lost contact with. She was
the granddaughter of my maternal grandfather from his first marriage. We
will be meeting for the first time during June - if the encounter is as
emotional as the phone calls then I had better take her a large box of
So I for one shout 3 cheers for the Notts FHS!
And while I'm at it let's have 3 for Nottsgen too - I have contacted 3
distant cousins via this list :-)
BARRATT - Anyone out there researching this Family please. I would like to
NAME James BARRATT Occupation- Joiner, lived Lombard St. Newark
BORN Circa 1796 [1841 Census]
DIED Prior 1881 Census
MARRIED 23.02.1817 Newark on Trent
NAME Mary Jane Cartledge
BORN Circa 1796 Nottinghamshire [1841 Census]
DIED Prior 1881 Census
William Edward Barratt bp. 01.09.1817 Newark on Trent # C061111 Sheet
Charles Barratt bp. 07.09.1821 Newark on Trent
Elizabeth Barratt b. 1821 [1841 Census]
William Barrett b. 1826 [1841 Census App. Joiner] **********
James Barratt bp. 20.06.1826 Newark on Trent [1841 Census]
Jane Barratt bp. 14.12.1828 Newark on Trent
John Barratt bp. 12.08.1831 Newark on Trent[1841 Census]
**** William BARRATT moved to Shoreditch after his marriage in 1852.
PIGOTS Directory- London 1861
William Barratt Builder- 3 Devonport St Commercial Road. East. E.
Dwelling: 44 Bookham St
Census Place: Shoreditch, London, Middlesex, England
>From Down Under
First of all thanks to everyone who responded to my last posting. I hope SKS can help me solve this problem. In September 1851 Florinda Bianchi is shown on his daughters birth certificate as being a plasterer living at 10 Drake Street, Nottingham. In October 1870 on his daughters marriage certificate he is shown as being a publican. In 1881 he does not appear on the Nottingham census so I presume perhaps he was dead ? but by coincidence his granddaughter Eveline Bianchi born 4 July 1871 does not appear either despite her parents and younger siblings being there. I have her death certificate which shows she lived until 1932. I am wondering if Florinda returned to his native country and took Eveline with him or if he just moved to a different county and took Eveline with him or if indeed he was dead and Eveline was somewhere else entirely different e.g. living with other relatives, boarding school etc. Being new to this can someone point me in the right direction to find !
out what happened to these two.
Many thanks Lee in dark stormy Hornsea east coast
Could some kind person please help with a census look-up please. On a
recent trip to Nottingham I found this family in the 1841 census for Lenton
Richard Wells 30 Farmer b. this was unreadable.
Martha Wells 35 wife b. Gunthorpe
Ann Guy Wells 14 b. St Peters Nottingham
Elizabeth Wells 12 b. St. Peters Nottingham
Mary Wells 10 b. Lenton Notts
Sarah Wells 8 b. Lenton Notts
Catherine Wells 6 b. Lenton Notts
John Wells 3 b. Lenton
Andrew Guy Wells 1 b Lenton
I couldn't find them in 1851 at all, but found them in 1861 living in
Willoughby on the Wolds Nottinghamshire, where Martha was a widow, if
possible, I should like to know where they were in 1851, and to find out
Richards place of birth, I have looked at their marriage record, which
didn't help, plus being almost unreadable. Any help with this would be
wonderful, many thanks in advance.
Nottinginghamshire - SCREATON,HALLAM,WAKERLEY.
Bedfordshire - WILSON,WARNER,
Buckinghamshire - BAVERSTOCK,LUDGATE,BOUGHTON
Norfolk - ROWNTREE,ROUNTREE,ROUNDTREE,NORTON
Wales - PHILLIPS,THOMAS,JOHN,STEPHEN,LUDGATE
Berkshire - ANDERSON
Kent - MEADES
Gloucestershire - BOUGHTON
Hello Nottsgen Listees
I am a new subscriber, having followed the genealogical pathway from
Yorkshire to Lincolnshire and now to Nottinghamshire. Could someone
please tell me what churches there are in Gringley-on-the-Hill, and
if the registers are still there or lodged elsewhere.
Hi fellow listers,
Can anyone tell me the distance approximately in miles and hours between
Nottingham and Kent? Thinking of a trip in the distant future. Thanks
Genealogy "Thats my story and I'm sticking to it"
>Hi fellow listers,
>Can anyone tell me the distance approximately in miles and hours between
>Nottingham and Kent? Thinking of a trip in the distant future. Thanks
I would say it's around 150 to 200 miles which will take you 3 to 4 hours
depending on where you are in each county and motorway traffic conditions
We'd like to start this month's news by returning to a subject
which keeps cropping up: Access to the Database. We are
frequently asked how to access the database for enquiries into
individuals or premises so we hope to provide a clear and
The database will not be available on line for the following
1. Size: The finished database will be of the order of 2.25
gigabytes. To put this into context, this is the equivalent of
a 5 CD-ROM set (including a search engine), or expressed
another way, it will have 5 times as many entries as the
Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
2. Cost: Despite various suggestions, the only I.Ps willing to
host a database of this size charge commercial rates. The
cheapest we have found is 250 per month, plus 250 set-up
fee. We simply do not have this level of financial resources.
We continue to answer all e-mail enquiries, usually within 24
hours, and are happy to respond to mail when an s.a.e. is
provided. The only charge we make is for print-outs of reports
which are either too long to e-mail or when a printed copy is
actually requested. For further details of enquiries, reports,
etc., please e-mail us direct.
For those researchers whose ancestors were involved with
brewing, the Brewery History Society is a natural first step,
followed by a visit to the National Pubs and Breweries History
In recent issues of the News we have included a short, potted
history of some of the more popular inn signs. We have been
surprised and gratified by the correspondence this has
generated and we hope to be able to continue this feature.
Further to our item about the Marquis of Granby, it seems that
during a cavalry charge at the battle of Wartburg in 1760, his
wig blew off giving rise to the expression "going for it bald
[or bare]-headed," (to tackle a problem without regard for
anything else.) His benevolence in setting up his disabled
non-commissioned officers, despite perpetuating his name, led
to his financial ruin and he died leaving debts of £37,000 (an
astronomical sum in those days.)
The Honest Lawyer seems to have been inspired by the works of
Charles Dickens who had a very low opinion of the legal
profession. The name appears in several places around the
country but not, curiously enough, anywhere near the Inns of
Court, the Temple or Gray's Inn, centres of the Law in London
A Project for You? Another subject that has generated some
discussion in recent months is that of a similar Index for
Scotland, Wales or Ireland. We regret that we are unable to
take on the extra work involved in adding any of these areas
but we would be happy to offer assistance to anyone who wished
to start such an Index.
Top Ten Counties
1. Kent 30260
2. Yorkshire 24490
3. Surrey 10358
4. Suffolk 10098
5. Lancashire 10010
6. Derbyshire 8834
7. Essex 7526
8. Lincolnshire 7222
9. Staffordshire 6814
While undertaking a little maintenance on the database we
discovered that there are no entries for Dorchester, Dorset,
which we find incredible. If you have any information on Pubs,
Inns or Taverns in this very pleasant county town - or
anywhere else in England - please send them in, either by e-
mail or from our web-site.
Many thanks in anticipation and good luck with you researches
Stan Gooch Rob Sones
East of London FHS Berkshire FHS________________________________________________
The Pubs, Inns and Taverns Index for England 1801-1900
A non profit-making project to index all the licensed
premises in England for the 19th Century.
If you have any details of such premises,
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Although I haven't tried this myself, it seemed worth posting to the list as
a possible answer to those people who have lately advised that they don't
always have a smooth transition in receiving their email during the
changeover to a new ISP.
"Doesn't it mean having to tell everyone to change your email address from
dissatisfied(a)nogoodisp.com.au to dissatisfied(a)betterisp.com.au? Not really.
There are sites, such as http://www.iname.com, where you can get a free
email address. This redirects email. People write to you at myname(a)iname.com
. This address simply bounces the email to an address specified. Any time
you change ISP's, go to the iname site and give it the new address to which
to forward your email."
Hope this helps those of you in a quandary over how to maintain continuity
of receipt of your email. Credit for this idea comes from a magazine
Hi.. I'm new to the list so I'm posting my interest in Notts
I have a Betsy HALLAM b 1866 Coddington, Newark, d 1935. Married John
Edward KING. Betsy's Parents were John HALLAM and Mary PLUMMER
I would be greatful for any information.
I have just joined this list & look forward to learning & finding out more
about the families I am looking for in Nottingham .I hope I am not doing
this wrong but I thought as an intro I would list the names that I am
looking for .If any one is after the same people PLEASE contact me .We
could check each others info & collect some more may be .I am very happy to
share what I have .I have 2 cousins who I have just meet on another list who
after the same people .We are pooling our info.
The families come from Claborough , East Radford & Radford . I have info on
some of these families back to 1704 > current times & some with very little
DUNK ,PETTINGER ,MOTTERSHAW ( these are the main ones )
BAUSKILL ,LINLEY ,MOSS ,MILLS ,SAVAGE , GREEN ,MORRIS ,HOWELL ( these are
connected families )
I do not know how common any of these names are in the areas that I have
mentioned .I am still fairly new to all this .Please forgive me if I am
doing this incorrectly .
Regards Colleen DUNK - South Australia
I am undertaking a family history and have identified that beginning with my great great grandfather, the Betts family, for at least another three generations back, lived in Nottinghamshire.
Is anyone else doing a family history of the Betts', or come across the Betts name, which might add a few more peices to this puzzle?
I am particularly interested in George Betts who married Sarah Drakitt or Draycott in 1864, and his father William, who married Hannah Brown in 1829, and their respective children.
William's father was Joshua, and his father was also Joshua, who places the Nottingham Betts' back to 1699.
I look forward to any help you can give me, and thank you in advance.
Newcastle, NSW Australia
I can't do the look-up for you but I live about 20 miles from Barkestone
and my husband's HENSONs were there for a time. Barkestone is a small
village in the Vale of Belvoir, only a couple of miles from the
Nottinghamshire border and fairly close to the Lincolnshire border too, so
if your family are the ones you have found in the 1851 census, be prepared
to look for branches of the family in Notts and Lincs as well.
Barkestone's full name is Barkestone-le-Vale.
If you get stuck, email the Leicestershire & Rutland Family History
Society: thesociety(a)lrfhs.freeserve.co.uk They have the 1851 Census in
their library. Also check out their website.
Lesley Chaney in E. Leics.
> From: Chris Andrew <candrew(a)kingston.net>
> To: NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
> Subject: 1851 CENSUS - LEICESTERSHIRE
> Date: 28 August 1999 02:06
> Hi folks:
> Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Leicestershire? This
> past week, while the short lived 1851 census index was on line, I found
> what I think is my great grandfather, his brother and mother all living
> in Barkestone, Leicestershire in 1851.
> If any kind person is able to look up the actual census entry I would
> love to know the marital status, occupations and places of birth of
> these three people just to confirm that they really are mine.
> The town was Barkestone, Leic.
> The family name is WALKER
> The first names are William, Thomas and Elizabeth.
> They are grouped together at the following reference Folio 257 HO
> I would really appreciate any help.
> Thank you in advance
> Chris Andrew
> Ontario, CANADA
> ==== NOTTSGEN Mailing List ====
> To submit more names to the Notts surname list:
My name is Gillian and I'm a newcomer to the list. I'm in Melbourne Australia searching for my GG Grandfather JOHN TOW who was born in Nottingham in the 1820's. He moved to Portsmouth Hampshire where he committed robbery and was transported here in 1840 where he served his sentence and married. His convict records show him leaving behind a brother Joseph and sisters Jane and Maryann in England. I presume they were also born in Notthingham and moved with him to Hampshire. All other information including children's birth certificates, John's marriage and death certificate etc., reveal nothing of his parents or birth parish. I am told convict trial papers of the Portsmouth area were destroyed in WWII. I hope someone out there can help, or steer me in the right direction.