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Someone posted this to another list that I'm on - so please don't blame
I HAVE been amusing myself by looking for some illustrious names on the
1881 British Census CDs and I thought you might be interested in what I
found. I will post a series of them in the next few days, starting with
Dwelling: 1 Tite Street
Census Place: Chelsea, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341017 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0078 Folio 56
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Frank MILES U 28 M Nottingham, England
Oscar WILDE U 24 M Dublin
Occ: Literature (Author)
Jane LARGE M 43 F Kent, England
John LARGE 13 M London, Middlesex,
Occ: Apprentice To Shoemaker
Robert FLETCHER U 22 M London, Middlesex,
Hmmm...wonder what a 22-year-old printer was doing staying overnight
dear Oscar??? Or is my nasty tabloid journalist's mind jumping to
I have just downloaded Rootsview and find it to be a great tool for
creating one's GEDCOM into a webpage.
If you'd like to download a trial version visit:
I am not associated in anyway with the company I just think it's a
Thanks for the address, Edna.
Since Happy99 & Melissa I've kept my anti-virus program switched on and it's
data files updated!
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Edna & Ken [mailto:email@example.com]
>> Sent: 30 July 1999 23:27
>> To: Patrick.Black(a)btinternet.com; NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com
>> Subject: Re: VirusWarning
>> Folks, for Virus info - Melissa, check site:
>> http://www.sarnia.com/tech/SKA.htm ....
>> Regards, Edna -- Ottawa
Dear fellow practicing genealogists:
I'm going to UNSUBSCRIBED for a couple of weeks. I'm off the Sheffield, York and Nottingham on a pilgrimage. May see some of you in the various archieves. I have to UNSUBSCRIBE because the volume of e-mail gets to be too much even over a weekend.
Always looking for information and contacts relating to the HALLAM family.
Greetings from Worksop, Nottinghamshire "The Gateway to the Dukeries"
The Local Studies section at The Worksop Library holds all the information
that you will need, including the census from 1841 to 1891 which are
indexed and all the local parish records.
It is situated on Memorial Avenue and there is a large car park ajacent to
It would be best for you to telephone and book a Microfiche Reader as there
are only three available. There is also a Printer/Reader where you can
print copies at 40p a time. You would be especially advised to book this.
The telephone number of the library is 01909 472408
If there is anything else that you would like to know, do drop me a line.
You wrote >I am planning to visit the Worksop area in the near future, and
to know where/what records are held, and also what the parking arrangements
are. I live within an hours drive of Worksop.
My first task is to try and trace a family in the 1871 Census, in the
Worksop area, and then search local church/chapel records for deaths,
baptisms and marriages, for the period of 1860 to 1877.<
Having tried, to no avail, for more than a year to pick up something on the
ANTCLIFFE'S OR BROWNLOWS of Workwop and having waded thru many personal
messages that have no business going to the entire list, I must UNSUBSCRIBE.
Thanks for the ride.
In article <5FE046F667F5CF119DCC0001FA4410B6042286C9@EXCH-BEL3>, Fred
Barrett <FREDBA(a)Attachmate.com> writes
>This is my first submission to the list. I've followed everyone's inquiries
>with interest. I've only been working on my family discovery for about a
>year, the family hunters seem like a wonderful community.
>I am researching a Ralph Barrett born abt. 1650. Listed as an Earl at one
>point in Nottinghamshire. He was a Quaker and had his lands apparently
>confiscated by the government.
>Any ideas on the best on-line sources to start looking for my Quaker English
>ancestors from all the way over here in Bellevue, Washington?
Quakers are hard to find in the normal church records. The usual pattern
is that you may well find marriages, (which took place in Church of
England Churches) but not baptisms/births.
The very best advice I can give you is to search for *wills* !!!
It's amazing how one can piece together families by obtaining every
BARRETT will that you can find for that period and earlier. Quakers were
really good at leaving wills!
Nottinghamshire Archives Office has an excellent index of wills, and all
the wills are on microfiche there... going *way* back into the 1500's.
>He had at least one son Arthur who was born
>1680 in Chestershire ( or Glouchester ) England. Arthur emigrated from
>England to Baltimore ca.1700.
Cheshire County Records Office (not Chestershire) has an index of wills
on line! Great to search <grin>. Look in the GENUKI pages at Cheshire,
and you will find a link there. There are certainly BARRATTs in the
1600's in Gloucestershire too.
I always have a little chuckle when I see folks write (and say)
Glouchester .... it really is Gloucester, pronounced "Gloster".
Two Americans driving into Gloucester, and arguing about the way it
should be pronounced.... they stop for lunch just as they enter the
city, and one says to the restaurant manager... "Can you settle the
argument for us? How do you pronounce the name of he place where we are?
Say it really clearly and slowly please."
"Sure" he replies....
In article <000601bedab7$87256dc0$022f63c3@default>, John Spencer
Wilkinson <jswilks(a)lineone.net> writes
>I am planning to visit the Worksop area in the near future, and would like
>to know where/what records are held, and also what the parking arrangements
>are. I live within an hours drive of Worksop.
In addition to being at the Nottinghamshire Archives Office in
Nottingham, there are fiche of the registers for that area at the
libraries in Mansfield and Worksop.
>My first task is to try and trace a family in the 1871 Census, in the
see my other message just now about the 1891 census. The same applies to
the 1871. You will need *plenty* of time! As far as I am aware, the
census indexes are only in Nottingham at the Archives Office.
>and then search local church/chapel records for deaths,
>baptisms and marriages, for the period of 1860 to 1877.
That should be quite straight forwards at Worksop library, if you can
get on the fiche reader. Nottingham has plenty.... and if they are full
(unlikely) then go to the Nottingham local Studies library on Angel Row,
as they have the church register fiche too.
>I am researching Samuel STOTT,
>John Wilkinson - from Yorkshire (i.e. - a Scotsman with the generosity
Us Nottingham folks are renowned for their generosity... so ....
STOTTs in the Worksop registration district in 1871:
piece 3458 folio 65 Worksop
3561 69 Blyth
3462 91 Harthill
In article <012401beda7e$5c559680$12d0ba89@default>, Edna & Ken
>The 1891 Census for Nottingham, to which I have access through our local LDS, is
>presented "As Enumerated". That is, one must know the address or at least
>the Parish in order to find, with some degree of ease, the name of the person /
>family being researched. However, it seems to me that I have read that
>there are copies of the Nottingham 1891 Census that are indexed by Surname.
>Is this true, and if so, how can one obtain access to it???
The indexes are by surname *only*, and just Nottingham itself has 26
*separate* indexes, one for each piece number in the census. So even
then it is really quite difficult. Its great that the NFHS took the
trouble to index the census, but a great pity in my view, that the
indexes are done the way that they are.
>I am trying to locate a Charles Garner (36ish), wife Sarah Ann (34ish) and
>family on the 1891 Census for Nottingham in order to find other family members.
>I know they were living in Brewitts Yard in 1887 as my grandmother (their
>daughter) was born there and later (1904) married in Nottingham giving Rancliffe
>Terrace as her residence, but I could not find them on the 1891 microfiche that
>is available to me.
One really good thing about the NFHS indexes however, is that there is
an index of street names ;-)
Brewitts Yard .... not in the index! But many small yards are not listed
as such in the actual census (not the fault of the street index).
Brewitts Place is piece 2693 folio 5
Brewills Yard is piece 2683 folio 119-120
There is 1 GARNER in piece 2693
There are 4 GARNERs in piece 2683
folios 103, 122, 125 and 142
Obviously none of those tie in with the street addresses above, but they
might be worth looking at all the same. The family you are looking for
could appear in any of the other 24 indexes in the town though ;-(
Finding people in the NFHS indexes isn't easy! Even less so if you are
looking for a common name like MILLS.... been there, got the T shirt.
Deserve a medal, (it took days), but still didn't find my James in 1861
or 1871 despite following up by looking at every single MILLS in the "as
enumerated". I did manage to find him in the 1891 though!
Greenhill Lane is in Riddings, a couple of miles south-east of Alf.
From: Rod Craddock <rod(a)gw4slk.freeserve.co.uk>
To: NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: 30 July 1999 21:40
Subject: Sprays in or near Alfreton 1890s
> Just got my grandmother's birth certificate, which has opened a whole
>new line of enquiry. I thought the family were in Nottingham at the time of
>her birth but in fact they were in or near Alfreton, so maybe I'm on the
>wrong list. Anyhow the family is SPRAY, she was Hilda SPRAY born 28 April
>1892, her father was Henry (a coal miner) mother Hannah nee Bott, they
>in Greenhill Lane Alfreton or one of the nearby villages. They were a large
>family, the siblings I know of are Elsie, Albert, Eva but I think there
>more. I wonder if anybody can find those names, just to confirm we have the
>right Hilda Spray.
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Regards, Edna -- Ottawa
From: Patrick Black <Patrick.Black(a)btinternet.com>
To: NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com <NOTTSGEN-L(a)rootsweb.com>
Date: Friday, July 30, 1999 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: VirusWarning
>Jane Harris wrote:
>>> Dear Listers
>>> please be on the lookout for a virus called 'Happy 1999' as
>>> an attached file.
>>> If I have inadvertently passed it on, I apologise!
>Thanks for the warning Jane. I recently got hit by this virus in a file
>sent by my son from his college (notorious spreaders of viruses, these
>If anyone needs it I have an antidote, and can e-mail it. The only snag is
>that it's nearly 800k.
> Cumbria, UK
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Jane Harris wrote:
>> Dear Listers
>> please be on the lookout for a virus called 'Happy 1999' as
>> an attached file.
>> If I have inadvertently passed it on, I apologise!
Thanks for the warning Jane. I recently got hit by this virus in a file
sent by my son from his college (notorious spreaders of viruses, these
If anyone needs it I have an antidote, and can e-mail it. The only snag is
that it's nearly 800k.
This is my first submission to the list. I've followed everyone's inquiries
with interest. I've only been working on my family discovery for about a
year, the family hunters seem like a wonderful community.
I am researching a Ralph Barrett born abt. 1650. Listed as an Earl at one
point in Nottinghamshire. He was a Quaker and had his lands apparently
confiscated by the government. He had at least one son Arthur who was born
1680 in Chestershire ( or Glouchester ) England. Arthur emigrated from
England to Baltimore ca.1700.
Any ideas on the best on-line sources to start looking for my Quaker English
ancestors from all the way over here in Bellevue, Washington?
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I wonder if anyone with access to the 1891 census can find a
SALTINSTALL family at 10 Blackstone Street, Nottingham? Not sure where
Blackstone Street is (was)
My ggf Herbert John SALTINSTALL and his wife Elizabeth nee BROWN were there,
she was pregnant with my grandad Frank SALTINSTALL, I wondered what other
children they had at that time. I think there was a brother Claud and
Just got my grandmother's birth certificate, which has opened a whole
new line of enquiry. I thought the family were in Nottingham at the time of
her birth but in fact they were in or near Alfreton, so maybe I'm on the
wrong list. Anyhow the family is SPRAY, she was Hilda SPRAY born 28 April
1892, her father was Henry (a coal miner) mother Hannah nee Bott, they lived
in Greenhill Lane Alfreton or one of the nearby villages. They were a large
family, the siblings I know of are Elsie, Albert, Eva but I think there were
more. I wonder if anybody can find those names, just to confirm we have the
right Hilda Spray.
Can any one suggest why my ancestor Samuel Hayes, an Ag Lab, and his wife
Sarah, came to have a daughter Fanny who was born in Cost Rica, South
They are all on the 1881 census for Mansfield Woodhouse, at an address
called Plantation Holle, sounds like there might have been a connection, or
am I clutching at straws.
I cant for the life of me think what an Ag Lab, who presumably would have
found it difficult to afford a trip to Nottingham let alone Costa Rica,
would have been doing there.
As far as I am aware the furthest the Hayes family ever strayed was from
Notts to Derbys.
Although I found this entry on the 1881 CDs I have checked the original
returns and it is correct.
I hope someone has some bright ideas.
On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:51:01 +0100 "lesley chaney" <chaney(a)clara.net>
>Nonconformist means not Church of England. Most of the noncomformist
>groups kept records but they are not always as logical as the Church of
>England ones and it's often a question of knowing who has them now.
>Even so, by law they HAD to go to the Church of England for marriages
>burials at one time.
Just to follow up on the last statement you made above, over what period
were Nonconformists not required to record births with the C of E?
John B. Price
Seeking PIERREPONT (Notts)
AMBLER, CLAYTON, FIRTH, MAWDESLEY, ROBERTS (Barnsley, WRY)
>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:58:02 -0400
>From: "Robert F. Dailey" <rdailey(a)cybertours.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Researching George Fisher from Radford, Nottinghamshire married to
>MaryAnn White. We think he may hav owned a pub and was considered an
>inventor of sorts. The family left the area in 1886 had at least one
>son born in Radford (my grandfather Harold). Thanks
Can't find any family like that in the 1881 Census in Nottingham. There is
an Ann Fisher, married (no husband listed), with a son, Harry, born in
Nottingham in 1853, living in Lambeth, Surrey. And there's a Harry Fisher,
apprentice chemist in Gamble's Chemists in Grantham, born in Nottingham in
1861. Hope this helps.